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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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cannabineer said:
I'm prejudiced. I thought that the original De Laurentiis film did some very good things, especially where the Guild was concerned. The Sci-fi Channel redid Dune ... imagine how disappointed I was when their guild navigator was essentially Man-Bat.

I haven't seen the reremake ... I'm a bit apprehensive.
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i read dune when i was ten years old. a lot of the sociopolitical content escaped me at the time, but i've been an addict ever since. rereading the whole series at the moment, using the "official" reading list, which places short stories in between the major books. i thought DeLaurentis did a pretty good job, especially for the time it was made, and the sci-fi channel cheaped the hell out, like it always does....
but they could do so much more now.....
all i'm asking is don't "improvise" in the movies...you have incredibly successful and beloved "scripts" already written....USE THEM
 
ANC

ANC

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I'm the kind of high you get when you watch getting Dough with high, and you take a hit anytime anyone does...
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i read dune when i was ten years old. a lot of the sociopolitical content escaped me at the time, but i've been an addict ever since. rereading the whole series at the moment, using the "official" reading list, which places short stories in between the major books. i thought DeLaurentis did a pretty good job, especially for the time it was made, and the sci-fi channel cheaped the hell out, like it always does....
but they could do so much more now.....
all i'm asking is don't "improvise" in the movies...you have incredibly successful and beloved "scripts" already written....USE THEM
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I know what you mean.

But there are some rewrites I think are excellent. The Hunt for Red October is a longtime favorite book, and the movie is in my top 5. The storylines are different, and in my opinion each is perfect for its medium. I'd like to see more like that, perhaps when filming Bear's The Forge of God ...

I'm thinking that with CGI as good as it is, they can do a credible job of filming Footfall (Niven/Pournelle). A starship from our neighbor bears elephantoid aliens who are intent on taking Earth. So much tasty stuff to show ... the starship, asteroids as weapons, our response (an Orion vessel ... the pulse-nuclear sort). But for the lasers, we could BUILD this.



 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
Spurt Bomb Gun?

Is it a Major (John Holms) Caliber?
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Remember Reagan and Star Wars? In the early 80s there were rumors of metal rods being pumped by a near-field nuke blast in a vacuum (?) and emitting x-ray (or hotter) laser beams. If there were test successes, they weren't published.

In the book the spurt bombs were bundles of metallic lasing rods ... they'd get dropped together with a propulsion bomb, acquire a target, aim, then make a bolt of hot photon just before the nuke vaporized them.

The nukes were the propulsion system; check out those shock absorbers.

To quote Niven and Pournelle, "God was knocking, and he wanted in bad."
 
lokie

lokie

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cannabineer said:
I know what you mean.

But there are some rewrites I think are excellent. The Hunt for Red October is a longtime favorite book, and the movie is in my top 5. The storylines are different, and in my opinion each is perfect for its medium. I'd like to see more like that, perhaps when filming Bear's The Forge of God ...

I'm thinking that with CGI as good as it is, they can do a credible job of filming Footfall (Niven/Pournelle). A starship from our neighbor bears elephantoid aliens who are intent on taking Earth. So much tasty stuff to show ... the starship, asteroids as weapons, our response (an Orion vessel ... the pulse-nuclear sort). But for the lasers, we could BUILD this.



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Impressive firepower.

The bunny is gonna have to beef up to get that thing operational.:p
 
BarnBuster

BarnBuster

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"Should an armed intruder ever get onto the campus of Manatee School for the Arts in Palmetto, Fla. they will not have fair fight on their hands. They, according to Principal Bill Jones, will be met with swift, overwhelming and deadly force by guards carrying semi-automatic rifles. “If someone walks onto this campus, they’re going to be shot and killed,” Jones said. “We’re not going to talk with them. We’re not going to negotiate. We are going to put them down, as quickly as possible.”

"The school, which has more leeway than regular public schools, has taken a more aggressive approach to the guardian program, hiring only military veterans with combat experience and arming them with Glock handguns and Kel-Tec RDB 17-inch semi-automatic long-guns, both which they carry at all times."

https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/article225203920.html?fbclid=IwAR23QFjxowlCd3TFahVgCUxSh1-PcBq3bq2NsNc9cnSCu4ep_Zojd7DDdcI
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-school-hires-2-former-combat-veterans-help-stop-active-shooters
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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BarnBuster said:
"Should an armed intruder ever get onto the campus of Manatee School for the Arts in Palmetto, Fla. they will not have fair fight on their hands. They, according to Principal Bill Jones, will be met with swift, overwhelming and deadly force by guards carrying semi-automatic rifles. “If someone walks onto this campus, they’re going to be shot and killed,” Jones said. “We’re not going to talk with them. We’re not going to negotiate. We are going to put them down, as quickly as possible.”

"The school, which has more leeway than regular public schools, has taken a more aggressive approach to the guardian program, hiring only military veterans with combat experience and arming them with Glock handguns and Kel-Tec RDB 17-inch semi-automatic long-guns, both which they carry at all times."

https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/article225203920.html?fbclid=IwAR23QFjxowlCd3TFahVgCUxSh1-PcBq3bq2NsNc9cnSCu4ep_Zojd7DDdcI
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-school-hires-2-former-combat-veterans-help-stop-active-shooters
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Kel-Tecs? Why am I thinking "jam session"?
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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cannabineer said:
Kel-Tecs? Why am I thinking "jam session"?
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Actually the kel tec rdb seems to be pretty reliable. Although, I can’t speak from first hand experience. And it wouldn’t be my weapon of choice. It’s stil an interesting option. I do like how it ejects spent rounds from the stock.

I think my biggest issue would be retraining myself on reloading since it’s a bull pup and the magazine is fed through the stock. I’m sure it’d be no big deal, I’m just more familiar with the ar platform.

Anyway, it’s awesome that the school is arming themselves. Way to go.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Gary Goodson said:
Actually the kel tec rdb seems to be pretty reliable. Although, I can’t speak from first hand experience. And it wouldn’t be my weapon of choice. It’s stil an interesting option. I do like how it ejects spent rounds from the stock.

I think my biggest issue would be retraining myself on reloading since it’s a bull pup and the magazine is fed through the stock. I’m sure it’d be no big deal, I’m just more familiar with the ar platform.
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I suspect I'm prejudiced by their two-mag pump shotgun. It's jam city.

Never owned or fired a bullpup. I imagine having all that action next to my cheek would induce some flinch. My weakness, not the gun's.
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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cannabineer said:
I suspect I'm prejudiced by their two-mag pump shotgun. It's jam city.

Never owned or fired a bullpup. I imagine having all that action next to my cheek would induce some flinch. My weakness, not the gun's.
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I’ve wondered the same about the action close to my face. I guess more reason to give it a try, right?

But from everything I’ve seen the RDB seems to be reliable. I do remember hearing about thier shotgun having issues. They look cool, but looks don’t mean shit if it doesn’t go bang when it’s supposed to.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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cannabineer said:
I know what you mean.

But there are some rewrites I think are excellent. The Hunt for Red October is a longtime favorite book, and the movie is in my top 5. The storylines are different, and in my opinion each is perfect for its medium. I'd like to see more like that, perhaps when filming Bear's The Forge of God ...

I'm thinking that with CGI as good as it is, they can do a credible job of filming Footfall (Niven/Pournelle). A starship from our neighbor bears elephantoid aliens who are intent on taking Earth. So much tasty stuff to show ... the starship, asteroids as weapons, our response (an Orion vessel ... the pulse-nuclear sort). But for the lasers, we could BUILD this.



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actually, Ring World is my personal "i wish they'd make a movie" series...the story is so good, there are so many species, so many good characters, so much potential for epic effects.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Gary Goodson said:
I’ve wondered the same about the action close to my face. I guess more reason to give it a try, right?

But from everything I’ve seen the RDB seems to be reliable. I do remember hearing about thier shotgun having issues. They look cool, but looks don’t mean shit if it doesn’t go bang when it’s supposed to.
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personally i'd go with a mossberg 500....i don't know how many rounds i've fired through one, and never even thought about jamming. i've fired one with a 18 inch barrel and a folding stock, and it was entirely comfortable and controllable
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
personally i'd go with a mossberg 500....i don't know how many rounds i've fired through one, and never even thought about jamming. i've fired one with a 18 inch barrel and a folding stock, and it was entirely comfortable and controllable
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Yup, old faithful. I own 1 with an adjustable stock and heat shield. No other mods. Runs great, never had a problem with it.


Oh I did also swap the barrel from 28” to 18” but I still have the 28” in the closet. So I can just slap it back on if I ever want.
 
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