Archive Seed Bank

Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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Anothermeduser said:
Well I would be good with hearing thoughts from archive on his gear, double check your intentions with the haven't run his stuff and won't posts, nobody fucking cares and your making shitty content, just sharing thought folks
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Double check my intentions? LOL the amount of hypocrisy in this one post is pretty extreme. Do you feel you've contributed great content?

I asked a simple fucking question, is his gear worth the price, I guess I shouldn't be surprised when dude acts like he does then his fans act the same way. Salty.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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SMT69 said:
Complain about pricing?

this hobby aint shit compared to my electric guitar addiction, or the money I spend on fking golf....the car payments some folks shell out every month....my neighbors are installing a small swimming pool for 15k, talk sbout shitting your money dwn the toilet

a cpl hundred bucks once a year for some bitchen genetics? Gimme a fkn break
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If you really wanna piss away money , buy a boat
 
SMT69

SMT69

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Mr.Head said:
Double check my intentions?

I asked a simple fucking question, is his gear worth the price, I guess I shouldn't be surprised when dude acts like he does then his fans act the same way. Salty.
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well....

Mr.Head said:
too much bullshit for me to buy either ones beans TBH.

$200+ is a fucking joke IMHO. I respect the work folks are putting in, but I'm so over this hype shit, and that seems to be the marketing angle for so much of these new seeds. Mofo's actin like De Beers trying to act like there's a limit on the amount of seeds they can breed or these shits are limited editions, that's a choice the breeder makes, and I'm not into paying extra for their choices.

Just my 21 cents, I'd give ya .02 but yall sonsabitches want to rape my wallet and take 10x and a bit what you're worth.
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just calling ya out.....anyways... peace bruddah ( i know where ya coming from...)
 
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smokebros

smokebros

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Damn ya'll where's the peace? No but really, where's the piece because it's time to pass it over right here so I can hit it!

Vote with your dollars, that's all I can say. If you feel a breeders gear is overpriced, then don't buy it. Simple as that.

Obviously there's a markup that the seedbank puts on the beans, but it's a free market and people can price their seeds however they want. They've determined that "x amount" is their worth, and that's what they want to get for them.

I do agree that 200+ for a pack is on the expensive side, but that's all subjective. If you find a "one of a kind phenotype" and keep a clone for years, who's to say it wasn't worth the 200 dollars you paid for that pack?

YOU have to be able to filter through the hype and make a conscious decision whether or not you see value in purchasing said pack.

I work in sales for a living and it's funny how many people are out there price shopping. They always want the best for the lowest price. Sometimes that strategy works, other times you have to pay to play.
 
Mr.Head

Mr.Head

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smokebros said:
Damn ya'll where's the peace? No but really, where's the piece because it's time to pass it over right here so I can hit it!

Vote with your dollars, that's all I can say. If you feel a breeders gear is overpriced, then don't buy it. Simple as that.

Obviously there's a markup that the seedbank puts on the beans, but it's a free market and people can price their seeds however they want. They've determined that "x amount" is their worth, and that's what they want to get for them.

I do agree that 200+ for a pack is on the expensive side, but that's all subjective. If you find a "one of a kind phenotype" and keep a clone for years, who's to say it wasn't worth the 200 dollars you paid for that pack?

YOU have to be able to filter through the hype and make a conscious decision whether or not you see value in purchasing said pack.

I work in sales for a living and it's funny how many people are out there price shopping. They always want the best for the lowest price. Sometimes that strategy works, other times you have to pay to play.
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I should have known better than to say shit about pricing I've been here long enough this shit happens every time, it offends people that have spent the money or are willing to, and that wasn't my intention. My intention was discussion, as crazy as that sounds.

I'll say this and leave it, I'm not looking for the best for the cheapest, I'm just looking for something worth my money. If a company can prove that their product is worth the price they are charging I will buy it, for seeds that's a really hard thing, it takes many folks having grown your gear and having outstanding results. Archive is a proven bank, the dude does good work, is his work better than others IDK, but it's proven he's withstood the test of time. It took a $60 pack of beans to get this thread moving again, a thread that's got 76 pages after 4 years, when dude that's selfing elites has over double the page count and it's only been going since Oct of last year. People are itching to buy his shit. Hopefully dude realizes there's more buzz around your shit when people can actually afford it/justify the purchase.

and I'm out.
 
smokebros

smokebros

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Mr.Head said:
I should have known better than to say shit about pricing I've been here long enough this shit happens every time, it offends people that have spent the money or are willing to, and that wasn't my intention. My intention was discussion, as crazy as that sounds.

I'll say this and leave it, I'm not looking for the best for the cheapest, I'm just looking for something worth my money. If a company can prove that their product is worth the price they are charging I will buy it, for seeds that's a really hard thing, it takes many folks having grown your gear and having outstanding results. Archive is a proven bank, the dude does good work, is his work better than others IDK, but it's proven he's withstood the test of time. It took a $60 pack of beans to get this thread moving again, a thread that's got 76 pages after 4 years, when dude that's selfing elites has over double the page count and people itching to buy his shit. Hopefully dude realizes there's more buzz around your shit when people can actually afford it.

and I'm out.
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Hey man, I have no hate towards you at all. You made some very valid points and I think people were being overly critical towards you. So just know that what I'm saying is more a general statement about what you said, no ill will towards you.

Your definition of "worth the money" could be different from the next person. You did say you haven't tried any of Archive's gear, so it would be a bit different if you did grow some one, because then you can speak to the quality vs price aspect of it. But I get it, you are put off by the price.

You are right about something, why all of a sudden drop the price down to $60? Maybe it's because he want's to tap into that market, that hobby type clientel, or maybe the $200 packs weren't working as best he thought, who knows why.

But I bought a pack of Rainbow Belts because of the price point. I'm in your boat man, I get what you're saying about the price gouging, but if that's what people are willing to pay then more power to them all.
 
madininagyal

madininagyal

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Mr.Head said:
too much bullshit for me to buy either ones beans TBH.

I enjoy reading the drama, I don't want it in my garden though :)

Over $100 USD for a pack of beans and you can pretty much count me out. You need to be doing something pretty fuckin special for that money. I've only spent it once, and I got mostly males from the pack.

$200+ is a fucking joke IMHO. I respect the work folks are putting in, but I'm so over this hype shit, and that seems to be the marketing angle for so much of these new seeds. Mofo's actin like De Beers trying to act like there's a limit on the amount of seeds they can breed or these shits are limited editions, that's a choice the breeder makes, and I'm not into paying extra for their choices.

I've played the value:quality seed game before too, I've often been most impressed with strains I got for free from nice generous folks on here or very cheaply from a few lower key breeders.

Those $60 beans are super fucking tempting though. Not gonna lie I've had them in the cart a few times, but I just don't feel right with all the nonsense.

Just my 21 cents, I'd give ya .02 but yall sonsabitches want to rape my wallet and take 10x and a bit what you're worth.
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:clap::clap::clap: take the words out of my mouth
 
madininagyal

madininagyal

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Mr.Head said:
See is it a Ferrari dealership though?

There's a point to buying a Ferrari. You're getting a super car, are you getting better quality beans here than you are from other respected folks? It's an honest question, I've never grown dudes gear. That Grimace OG has had my eye for a long while though. I'm honestly not trying to shit on dude. I'd love to try his beans but haven't due to my already mentioned issues.
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Dude got quality gear not gonna lie his pie face was very good and strong , dosidos too was strong and tasty , but like you i found some gear for way lower price on par on quality with his gear
 
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