nute burn or not?

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guudbud

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at first signs I thought this may be a heat issue but temps rarely go over 81.6,humidity is steady at 55-60% so thats been ruled out, ph is 6.7, only been using ph'd water no nutes,age just in there 3rd week, soil f&f ocen forest, the 2 plants in the pic's are the worst others show "slightly" the same as these 2. I'm kind of stumped as nutes have not been used yet but it looks like a nute problem to me? they were flushed a couple days btw... any thoughts On what to do?





 
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E S

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Looks like overfertilization. It's funny how many people shit on Miracle-Gro cuz it'll burn your plants but I see it in FFOF and everyone loves the stuff.

Course you could just be letting the soil get too dry between waterings.
 
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GNOME GROWN

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def.looks like from nutes..i belive the ocean forest has a slow release fert. this is why i use ff planting mix! just add perlite!...if i were u i would just flush the shit out of them again and hope for the best!..run a good 5 gal. threw each one... (done easy in a bath tub)
 
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gangjababy

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E S said:
Looks like overfertilization. It's funny how many people shit on Miracle-Gro cuz it'll burn your plants but I see it in FFOF and everyone loves the stuff.

Course you could just be letting the soil get too dry between waterings.
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Actually it's the opposite, the more you water the more nutrients you release. So the flush released too many nutes, let the soil dry in between waterings and they should recover.
 
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guudbud

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E S said:
Looks like overfertilization. It's funny how many people shit on Miracle-Gro cuz it'll burn your plants but I see it in FFOF and everyone loves the stuff.

Course you could just be letting the soil get too dry between waterings.
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it's funny you say that,this is the first time for me using ocean forest and the first time ever having "any" problems along these lines. I have a soil tester and they get tested every morning so I doubt it's getting to dry but who knows. I'm just finding it hard to belive I have nute problems due to soil! they seem to be doing a "tad" bit better but not much.. I hope this get's sorted out soon!!!!
 
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gangjababy said:
Actually it's the opposite, the more you water the more nutrients you release. So the flush released too many nutes, let the soil dry in between waterings and they should recover.
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I don't believe that for a second. MG Moisture Control stays soaked for weeks at a time and even with small light-feeding plants I've never had problems.
 
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guudbud

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gangjababy said:
Actually it's the opposite, the more you water the more nutrients you release. So the flush released too many nutes, let the soil dry in between waterings and they should recover.
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that was my first thought after flushing as my friend did this with out me knowing and I still don't know why but As the soil drys It seems they are starting to perk up a "tad" but not much better than yesterday! But at the same time I though well it's been 3 weeks and the nutes in the soil mix should not be very strong anymore but looks like i'm wrong there... thanks for the help guy's keep you fingers crossed!!!!
 
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GB... even if what you say is true.... dry soil with a bunch of nutes can easily burn plant roots. It just more likely that a plant with access to more water will not burn as compared to a plant with access to less water.

I'm not saying you're wrong.... but I don't believe you.
 
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gangjababy

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GB... even if what you say is true.... dry soil with a bunch of nutes can easily burn plant roots. It just more likely that a plant with access to more water will not burn as compared to a plant with access to less water.

I'm not saying you're wrong.... but I don't believe you.
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Believe me or not, its true, the more you water the more nutrients you release.
Why else would his plants show signs of burning after flushing them?
 
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gangjababy

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Organic nutrients still release their nutrients over time and they can still burn your plants.
You can stubbornly disagree with me but give me another explanation for why his plants burned after they were flushed
 
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gangjababy

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he said he flushed his plants, how would his soil be getting too dry?
flushing is different from watering them, do you know what flushing is?
 
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E S

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Pay attention dork... I said "between waterings"....... does time exist only when he flushes or what?
 
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E S

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Yeah yeah... many a people have burnt plants with organic nutes..... It doesn't take much time to do it either.

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Look at.... if giving your plants some water is burning them....... :lol: ....that's a shitty situation.
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guudbud

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it's nither nute burn or ph problems it's fuckin mites!!! fuck me..... I suspected mites a week ago so I sprayed them down with neem oil just to be safe and well I indeed have mites and neem didn't work! yesterday noticed a web going from the 2 plants pictured as well as some small holes that were not there the day before. bought a mag glass to get up and personal and It's a goddamn infestation of mites so I brewed up some nicotine tea,soaked them good, and today for extra measures I let go a pro control bomb take that fuckin mites!!!
I suspect they were in the soil to begin with so I pray there are gone and the pro control bomb did it's job along with the nicotine spray! Wish me luck as I need it!
 
NotMine

NotMine

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man ive had mites a few times thoses leaves still look limp despite mite problem organics break down slowly over time with the help of soil micro organisms they are unavalible untill microbes break it down...and I'd watch the nicoteen treatments you may lose that one shes already hurting Ive found a small shot of epsom salt like a pinch in a quart or tea spoon gallon helps the limp leave thing never had that happen so young wonder if fox farm didnt mix that batch well and you have a hot spot somewhere in there lots of bat crap in a ball burning some but not all the roots? hope she comes around for you some times the micro nutes are the last to get released unbound by microbes so I suplement... something Ive had to do for along time since I went organic its always something... Ive never found a premix that has it all....:(
 
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