CSI humboldt thread

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chatttimes

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I ran just a half pack each of Mendocino purple urkle, Old family purp, Faux G purp and branded bubba.
Didnt really find any keepers other than the Faux-G purp, but i have very high hopes for the other half of the packs.


Mendocino purple urkle (mendocino purp x purple urkle) had large solid nuggs of amazing purple colored flowers. Flavors were a little lacking but production was amazing.

Old family purp (triangle kush x purple urkle) i didnt have much luck with over the last summer, temps were high, i ended up with a few winners but nothing to keep really.

Faux G Purp (f-cut og x purple urkle) was my favorite due to rock solid nugs, amazing frost, amazing color, and flavor was GREAT! a friend of mine really DIDNT like this one because of the flavor. It was a heavy purple chemical hairspray aroma and flavor, i loved it, he hated it haha.

Branded bubba (chem4 x bubba kush) short sturdy plants with fat baseball nuggets that were a little softer than i expected but possibly the chem4 influence? the few i had seemed to lean more to the chem4 in relation to flavors and bud structure i believe. While smoking it was a nice mix of both parents in flavor.

I was really looking into CSI to see if i could find the candy purple skunky flavors of the "purp" i used to know back in 2006-2009. Not sure if im looking for Purple urkle, GDP, GRAPE APE, MEDNO PURP, or if their all the same anyway? Still havent found THE ONE though :/
 
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In his potcast interview, NSpecta said something like he doesn't have his cuts genotyped because why should he pay to find out what he already knows he has? I guess he changed his mind and submitted some cuts. When you look at the Phylos Galaxy you can see that the "Triangle Kush" that he submitted is the same OG Kush cut submitted by 73 others and known by names like Kosher Kush (JoshD Farms), OG Kush (JoshD Farms, guess they got multiples they didn't know where the same clones!), SFV (Harborside), Platinum OG Kush (Green Door), Larry OG Kush (Wonderland Nursery), Hollywood OG Kush (Wonderland), Blood Diamond OG Kush (Wonderland again!), and a bunch others. Nobody else submitted that cut as "triangle kush" but Robert C. Clarke sent in that cut labeled as "Thailand." I guess that's the source of the OG Kush, Thai landrace / commercial?

https://phylos.bio/galaxy/variety/PGT-115289/csi-humboldt/triangle-kush
 
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jayblaze710

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Observe & Report said:
In his potcast interview, NSpecta said something like he doesn't have his cuts genotyped because why should he pay to find out what he already knows he has? I guess he changed his mind and submitted some cuts. When you look at the Phylos Galaxy you can see that the "Triangle Kush" that he submitted is the same OG Kush cut submitted by 73 others and known by names like Kosher Kush (JoshD Farms), OG Kush (JoshD Farms, guess they got multiples they didn't know where the same clones!), SFV (Harborside), Platinum OG Kush (Green Door), Larry OG Kush (Wonderland Nursery), Hollywood OG Kush (Wonderland), Blood Diamond OG Kush (Wonderland again!), and a bunch others. Nobody else submitted that cut as "triangle kush" but Robert C. Clarke sent in that cut labeled as "Thailand." I guess that's the source of the OG Kush, Thai landrace / commercial?

https://phylos.bio/galaxy/variety/PGT-115289/csi-humboldt/triangle-kush
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These results are the combination of two things.

1.people love to rename cuts.

2. It shows how low resolution Phylos’ genetics results are. It is well known that a large proportion of OG cuts are S1’s of other well known OG cuts. Most OGs come from Orgnkid’s seeds, which were all S1’s. A decent, high resolution genomic analysis should be able to identify S1’s from the parents and from each other. Apparently Phylos can not.

There’s also no way that “Thailand” is pure Thai.
 
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jayblaze710 said:
2. It shows how low resolution Phylos’ genetics results are. It is well known that a large proportion of OG cuts are S1’s of other well known OG cuts. Most OGs come from Orgnkid’s seeds, which were all S1’s. A decent, high resolution genomic analysis should be able to identify S1’s from the parents and from each other. Apparently Phylos can not.
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Phylos is sensitive enough to differentiate S1's just fine. You can see that NSpecta submitted two Chemdog S1's along with his Chem91 cut. There are also a lot of cuts in Phylos that are very close to the OG kush cut that may be S1s. It's just in this case that the "Triangle Kush" cut that NSpecta submitted is the same cut that has been submitted 72 other times under names like OG Kush, SFV, Larry OG, (but not TK, though one is "Flo-Rida") etc... I'm sure it's one of the best cuts ever, that's why it's been passed along and renamed so many times.

Nobody else has submitted a "Triangle Kush" so it could be NSpecta doesn't have the "real" TK or it could be that that he does and TK is just YAROK (Yet Another Renamed OG Kush.)
 
Lurpin

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I ran the purple urkle s1s and I got three distinct phenos. One was unlike the others and didn't clone right, didn't even turn purple. The other two phenos... all I can say is wow. One is dead on the purp flavor I was looking for and turns a fair amount of purple. My keeper pheno is way different. Shes what the pictures are of. She gets super dark, and her smells are complex. Smells and taste like grapes for sure, but there is more. When shes growing and when you cut her up she smells like passion guava fruit. After a long cure it really took on a whole other smell. Almost like strawberry yogurt. Like I said shes pretty complex. I'm very impressed with csi humboldt.

I got a pack of old family purple, sweet pink stink, and chem 91 s1s in the vault waiting to be grown.
 
quiescent

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Lurpin said:
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I ran the purple urkle s1s and I got three distinct phenos. One was unlike the others and didn't clone right, didn't even turn purple. The other two phenos... all I can say is wow. One is dead on the purp flavor I was looking for and turns a fair amount of purple. My keeper pheno is way different. Shes what the pictures are of. She gets super dark, and her smells are complex. Smells and taste like grapes for sure, but there is more. When shes growing and when you cut her up she smells like passion guava fruit. After a long cure it really took on a whole other smell. Almost like strawberry yogurt. Like I said shes pretty complex. I'm very impressed with csi humboldt.

I got a pack of old family purple, sweet pink stink, and chem 91 s1s in the vault waiting to be grown.
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Move that sweet pink stink up whatever batting order you've got If you enjoyed the urkle s1s.
 
skuba

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Phylos is sensitive enough to differentiate S1's just fine. You can see that NSpecta submitted two Chemdog S1's along with his Chem91 cut. There are also a lot of cuts in Phylos that are very close to the OG kush cut that may be S1s. It's just in this case that the "Triangle Kush" cut that NSpecta submitted is the same cut that has been submitted 72 other times under names like OG Kush, SFV, Larry OG, (but not TK, though one is "Flo-Rida") etc... I'm sure it's one of the best cuts ever, that's why it's been passed along and renamed so many times.

Nobody else has submitted a "Triangle Kush" so it could be NSpecta doesn't have the "real" TK or it could be that that he does and TK is just YAROK (Yet Another Renamed OG Kush.)
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Pretty sure nspecta’s tk came from cornbreadricky
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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its the original. If you really want to know, just ask him on IG. This arguement has already been hashed out, for the love of Pete. I doubt Ricky renamed anything. Did Krome rename the White? LMFAO
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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jayblaze710 said:
These results are the combination of two things.

1.people love to rename cuts.

2. It shows how low resolution Phylos’ genetics results are. It is well known that a large proportion of OG cuts are S1’s of other well known OG cuts. Most OGs come from Orgnkid’s seeds, which were all S1’s. A decent, high resolution genomic analysis should be able to identify S1’s from the parents and from each other. Apparently Phylos can not.

There’s also no way that “Thailand” is pure Thai.
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You ever notice how much hemp and skunk is in their graphs, on strains you know it can't be. I am also under the impression the Florida OG was the original, most all others are S1's. Hell Orgnkd calls an og x skunk haze as a straight og, lmfao. Phylos is new but not the best.
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Bodyne said:
its the original. If you really want to know, just ask him on IG. This arguement has already been hashed out, for the love of Pete. I doubt Ricky renamed anything. Did Krome rename the White? LMFAO
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Where has it been hashed out?

What NSpecta submitted as "Triangle Kush" is the same clone of "OG Kush" that's going around under a lot of different names. Phylos sequenced it. What is there to doubt? Despite 72 other submissions, nobody else submitted it under the name "Triangle Kush." That people believe NSpecta has the "real" cut of TK is very strong evidence that TK is just another renamed OG Kush.

It is possible all the OG Kush submitted to Phylos are actually renamed versions of Triangle Kush.
 
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jayblaze710

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Observe & Report said:
Where has it been hashed out?

What NSpecta submitted as "Triangle Kush" is the same clone of "OG Kush" that's going around under a lot of different names. Phylos sequenced it. What is there to doubt? Despite 72 other submissions, nobody else submitted it under the name "Triangle Kush." That people believe NSpecta has the "real" cut of TK is very strong evidence that TK is just another renamed OG Kush.

It is possible all the OG Kush submitted to Phylos are actually renamed versions of Triangle Kush.
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Phylos sequencing results are not very good and don’t have very high resolution. People need to take everything from Phylos with a big ass salt shaker of salt.
Bodyne said:
You ever notice how much hemp and skunk is in their graphs, on strains you know it can't be. I am also under the impression the Florida OG was the original, most all others are S1's. Hell Orgnkd calls an og x skunk haze as a straight og, lmfao. Phylos is new but not the best.
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This is one of the most egregious examples of Phylos being shit. They attribute genotypes to things like “blueberry” or “skunk” or “hemp” when they are clearly genotypes common across all of cannabis. This sort of data is only useful if through genomic and phylogenetic analysis you’ve found genotypes that are unique to a specific population. They don’t have the database or the analytical skills to do this. So they just make graphs of bullshit and people buy it because they don’t know any better.

This is literally the sort of analyses I did for years in grad school.
 
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