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Laughing Grass

Laughing Grass

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
but...fighting back is not spreading rumors. if you use the actions of others to justify doing something that you know isn't right, then you've already lost one fight, that is probably more important.

Don Juan Matus said it pretty well.

"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything either as a blessing or as a curse. A warrior must be impeccable.

Impeccability is to do your best in whatever you’re engaged in. A warrior always makes sure that everything is in proper order, not because he believes that he is going to survive the ordeal he is about to undertake, but because that is part of his impeccable behavior.

Impeccability is nothing else but the proper use of energy.

Part of being impeccable for a warrior is never to hinder others with his thoughts. The hardest thing in the world is for a warrior to let others be. The lets them be and supports them in what they are; you trust them to be impeccable warriors themselves. If they are not then it’s your duty to be impeccable yourself and not say a word. Every effort to help on our part is an arbitrary act guided by our own self-interest alone."

always make sure that you aren't fabricating the moral ground you're standing on. if you're sure it's real, fight for it.
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but that's complete nonsense. I'd love to live in that fairy tale world. None of us behave impeccably and all actions are guided by our interests alone. What this story fails to recognize is the size and strength difference between "warriors". I guarantee I wouldn't win a physical fight and disqualifying me from fighting dirty strips me of all options to fight back.

I've built a life around ignoring what people say or think about me and almost never respond. If you walked a mile in my shoes you could find lots to lecture me on... this subject wouldn't be one of them.

curious2garden said:
Ahhh that's the mistake! You never ignore the little shit. You whack them back as hard as you can and make them seriously consider taking a second nibble at you. If you don't do that you can end up with a forum full of man hating, borderline emos with phony hooters and poorly photoshopped cellulite, but I digress.

Since I like you I'm going to recommend something that saved my bacon many times over:
https://www.med.upenn.edu/shorterlab/Papers/Member Papers/sharks.pdf

Pay particular attention to Item #4, but they are all golden rules for dealing with people.
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I have to admit that I am a bit intimidated by you. :rolleyes:

I like your philosophy much better than the pacifism being preached here. It would be exhausting to fully follow those rules... or I need to narrow my definition of aggression. Handling people on the internet is easy... IRL going into full bitch attack mode rarely settles things or just makes them worse, so I'm super careful when I choose to respond. I just need a big smite stick so I can smack people when they piss me off.

Things got busy this past week and I haven't had time to plan an appropriate response. I'm not in a hurry and big one is coming once I figure out what it is.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Laughing Grass said:
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but that's complete nonsense. I'd love to live in that fairy tale world. None of us behave impeccably and all actions are guided by our interests alone. What this story fails to recognize is the size and strength difference between "warriors". I guarantee I wouldn't win a physical fight and disqualifying me from fighting dirty strips me of all options to fight back.

I've built a life around ignoring what people say or think about me and almost never respond. If you walked a mile in my shoes you could find lots to lecture me on... this subject wouldn't be one of them.



I have to admit that I am a bit intimidated by you. :rolleyes:

I like your philosophy much better than the pacifism being preached here. It would be exhausting to fully follow those rules... or I need to narrow my definition of aggression. Handling people on the internet is easy... IRL going into full bitch attack mode rarely settles things or just makes them worse, so I'm super careful when I choose to respond. I just need a big smite stick so I can smack people when they piss me off.

Things got busy this past week and I haven't had time to plan an appropriate response. I'm not in a hurry and big one is coming once I figure out what it is.
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you'll have to speak for yourself about what guides your actions, i've been pursuing impeccability for quite a while now...i haven't caught it yet, but i'll never give up the chase.
not all fights are physical...in fact, most aren't.
i've tried to build a life based on self examination. it's difficult. you never see yourself as others see you, and it's hard sometimes to be honest with yourself about your motivations and goals.
no need to be intimidated by me...i'm just another person in a world full of people...i may speak a little more honestly than some, a lot less tactfully than many...but that doesn't make me special, just another loud mouth with an opinion...nothing special there.
handling people in real life can be tricky. you have to really think about your opponent. what motivates them? why are they your opponent? what do they want from you? what are YOU willing to do to make them stop?....physical violence does solve things, despite popular sayings, but it also usually has repercussions...if you aren't willing to deal with those repercussions, then you have to find alternate means to achieve your goal....how far are you willing to go? sometimes a public bitching out, with all of the little details about their behavior, in front of strategically picked witnesses, will be enough to shame them into better behavior.
it's up to you to decide how far you want to go....and what you can do, without doing damage to yourself.....that's where impeccability comes into play...knowing the difference
 
Laughing Grass

Laughing Grass

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Fair enough, I apologize I didn't mean to speak for you. I have too many other character flaws that require attention before can I add be impeccable to the list. I've been struggling with be kind for the past few days.

I'm not really prepared to deep dive into a self-reflective discussion right now... that's a rabbit hole my therapist wouldn't cover in one session. The thing is I don't want to think about him... call him an opponent or give him any credibility. He's a piece of shit and I would enjoy just knowing that I did something to make his shitty life a little bit shittier. Let the chips fall where they may.

That intimidated comment was about curious2garden. You're rough around the edges but not really intimidating. I don't mean that in a negative way.
 
Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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Laughing Grass said:
Fair enough, I apologize I didn't mean to speak for you. I have too many other character flaws that require attention before can I add be impeccable to the list. I've been struggling with be kind for the past few days.

I'm not really prepared to deep dive into a self-reflective discussion right now... that's a rabbit hole my therapist wouldn't cover in one session. The thing is I don't want to think about him... call him an opponent or give him any credibility. He's a piece of shit and I would enjoy just knowing that I did something to make his shitty life a little bit shittier. Let the chips fall where they may.

That intimidated comment was about curious2garden. You're rough around the edges but not really intimidating. I don't mean that in a negative way.
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That's a very healthy outlook, at least from my perspective. Don't worry about it. Further, don't let timing distress you; revenge is a dish best served cold.. You have all the time in the world to crush him.
 
WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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The Art of War is worth reading to learn how to deal with people. I've always preferred physiological manipulation vs physical interactions. I also have a book series on human psychology I had started reading. Most people are relatively easy to manipulate just by how you word what you say.
 
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