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most info on life time of lights and bulbs is in hours,wouldn't a par test or umols at the same height as 1 year ago tell you if your light has degraded any,? can't seem to find anyone that has done this and not just automatically never use a bulb past 3 or 4 grows at most.does anyone check their old hps or mh bulbs ? :)
 

lokie

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most info on life time of lights and bulbs is in hours,wouldn't a par test or umols at the same height as 1 year ago tell you if your light has degraded any,? can't seem to find anyone that has done this and not just automatically never use a bulb past 3 or 4 grows at most.does anyone check their old hps or mh bulbs ? :)
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Try these links they will have more specific information.
https://www.rollitup.org/f/indoor-growing.49/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/lumens-lux-and-adding-it-all-up.83128/page-17




 

WeedFreak78

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most info on life time of lights and bulbs is in hours,wouldn't a par test or umols at the same height as 1 year ago tell you if your light has degraded any,? can't seem to find anyone that has done this and not just automatically never use a bulb past 3 or 4 grows at most.does anyone check their old hps or mh bulbs ? :)
At half life, appx 12,000 hours, hps still puts out at 90%. That's directly from Hortilux. 12,000 hrs is 1000 12/12 cycles, or 3 years of flowering. I never measured output but I start noticing diminishing returns about the 2 year mark, fluffier and less yield. I think my 600mh veg light is like 4 years old, maybe 5? Haven't seen any difference in vegging. Unless you're running commercial and paying for your bulbs every run, it's not worth swapping them out as often as recommended by most grow sites.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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most info on life time of lights and bulbs is in hours,wouldn't a par test or umols at the same height as 1 year ago tell you if your light has degraded any,? can't seem to find anyone that has done this and not just automatically never use a bulb past 3 or 4 grows at most.does anyone check their old hps or mh bulbs ? :)
i haven't done a thorough test in a spehere, but i've used my light meter to check lumens, about every three months, then i went to checking monthly for a while. no noticeable drop for the first 6 months, then a 5% loss, then it seemed like i'd get 2-3 percent loss every couple of months, so it took about a year to get a 15% loss of lumens. that seems like enough of a loss to me to replace them yearly. i keep a couple of the old ones around in case i have a blow out, but will only use them till a new replacement gets here
 
i haven't done a thorough test in a spehere, but i've used my light meter to check lumens, about every three months, then i went to checking monthly for a while. no noticeable drop for the first 6 months, then a 5% loss, then it seemed like i'd get 2-3 percent loss every couple of months, so it took about a year to get a 15% loss of lumens. that seems like enough of a loss to me to replace them yearly. i keep a couple of the old ones around in case i have a blow out, but will only use them till a new replacement gets here
Thanks for the reply guys is great to read atleast 1 person checks their bulbs after a period with lux or par,is interesting about a 4 or 5 year old mh light still performing without noticing any difference that weedfreak78 mentioned,i like it :) tks again
 

Gary Goodson

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Thanks for the reply guys is great to read atleast 1 person checks their bulbs after a period with lux or par,is interesting about a 4 or 5 year old mh light still performing without noticing any difference that weedfreak78 mentioned,i like it :) tks again
Whatever you do, don’t buy from those ipower blokes. They’re fair dinkum shit cunts. Bulb didn’t even last one run.
 

Chunky Stool

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Garlic peppercorn pork loins are awesome...
Mmm... funny you should mention pork loin. I recently bought a couple at a great price and am trying to decide how to cook em.
One of my favorite ways is old school: oven w/meat & potatoes on a tray. Meat is covered with foil to keep it from burning while the potatoes are frying.
Not sure if it's common, but I like to vary the temperature while I cook.
Low & slow makes things tender, but high temps sear in flavor and can be used to fry.
I like both.

Gotta mix spices.
I'll probably go with seasoned salt that's spiked with garlic powder, ceyenne, and sage.
Give it a rub and let it sit overnight in the fridge.

Or I can do a delay on the crock pot.

Did I mention I have ADD? (:
 
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farmerfischer

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Mmm... funny you should mention pork loin. I recently bought a couple at a great price and am trying to decide how to cook em.
One of my favorite ways is old school: oven w/meat & potatoes on a tray. Meat is covered with foil to keep it from burning while the potatoes are frying.
Not sure if it's common, but I like to vary the temperature while I cook.
Low & slow makes things tender, but high temps sear in flavor and can be used to fry.
I like both.

Gotta mix spices.
I'll probably go with seasoned salt that's spiked with garlic powder, ceyenne, and sage.
Give it a rub and let it sit overnight in the fridge.

Or I can do a delay on the crock pot.

Did I mention that I have ADD? (:
I take stratera..lol. I wrap mine in foil and cook at 350 .. nice and juicy that way..
Fuck,,, I'm hungry now... what's in the fridge.? Hmmm.
 

Chunky Stool

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I take stratera..lol. I wrap mine in foil and cook at 350 .. nice and juicy that way..
Fuck,,, I'm hungry now... what's in the fridge.? Hmmm.
I've been on adderall for decades. The shit totally works for me.
A lot of kids like it now because it helps them play video games better.
I'm serious.

As a result, Adderall went to schedule 2 and my doctor now makes me take a piss test every 6 months.
Anything illegal *or* zero adderall metabolites and they won't renew. (zero means you're not taking it as prescribed; probably selling it.)
 

farmerfischer

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I've been on adderall for decades. The shit totally works for me.
A lot of kids like it now because it helps them play video games better.
I'm serious.

As a result, Adderall went to schedule 2 and my doctor now makes me take a piss test every 6 months.
Anything illegal *or* zero adderall metabolites and they won't renew. (zero means you're not taking it as prescribed; probably selling it.)
They won't prescribe adderall because of my drug charge
 

WeedFreak78

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Mmm... funny you should mention pork loin. I recently bought a couple at a great price and am trying to decide how to cook em.
One of my favorite ways is old school: oven w/meat & potatoes on a tray. Meat is covered with foil to keep it from burning while the potatoes are frying.
Not sure if it's common, but I like to vary the temperature while I cook.
Low & slow makes things tender, but high temps sear in flavor and can be used to fry.
I like both.

Gotta mix spices.
I'll probably go with seasoned salt that's spiked with garlic powder, ceyenne, and sage.
Give it a rub and let it sit overnight in the fridge.

Or I can do a delay on the crock pot.

Did I mention I have ADD? (:
Can't go wrong with porchetta.
 
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