UPKEEPING MICROBES IN RDWC

[5BY5LEC]

Dude, at no point did I say to fill your dwc buckets with distilled water. Can you read? I said to put 1 gram of pool shock into 1 gallon of distilled water to make a stock solution. You use that at 5ml per gallon of water in your dwc system.

I’ll use the running of my 24 site undercurrent for “results”. Show what high DO, nutrient salts and a sterilizer can do.

Really though, just cause sterile works for you does not mean you are able push that path on someone else. Don't get me wrong, I have seen sterile work awesome. I have also seen bennies work awesome. I am EVEN actually on the fence about needing anything if you have a chiller. So why don't you actually use your experience to answer his question, rather than being so narrow minded about your sterile system? Shit attitudes never got anyone anywhere.

OP, I usually used the full dose of hydroguard for a res change and then just dumped some in between res changes. Worked great for me. That being said, I think your PP would work well. The bacteria will colonize your roots the same as HG and the extra microbes really help out.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Congrats. It’s just not how I’d ever recommend anyone run it.

As far as the distilled water goes, it’s 5 ml per gallon. That is not gonna do ANYTHING to ph.

A $13 bag of pool shock will treat 9,900,000 gallons of water. How much do your beneficials cost?

Dude, at no point did I say to fill your dwc buckets with distilled water. Can you read? I said to put 1 gram of pool shock into 1 gallon of distilled water to make a stock solution. You use that at 5ml per gallon of water in your dwc system.

I’ll use the running of my 24 site undercurrent for “results”. Show what high DO, nutrient salts and a sterilizer can do.

Please, I beg you, show me we’re I said to fill your dwc system with distilled water. Please.

Reading comprehension is at an all time low.

Y’all enjoy adding your microbes, adding hundreds in cost to each run for no added benefit. I’ve done the side by sides. In the same room, with the same base nutrient with as many variable kept that same as possible. It wasn’t even a comparison. Sterilize destroyed beneficials.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Really though, just cause sterile works for you does not mean you are able push that path on someone else. Don't get me wrong, I have seen sterile work awesome. I have also seen bennies work awesome. I am EVEN actually on the fence about needing anything if you have a chiller. So why don't you actually use your experience to answer his question, rather than being so narrow minded about your sterile system? Shit attitudes never got anyone anywhere.

OP, I usually used the full dose of hydroguard for a res change and then just dumped some in between res changes. Worked great for me. That being said, I think your PP would work well. The bacteria will colonize your roots the same as HG and the extra microbes really help out.

My “attitude” has gotten me more places in life than most will ever see. I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.

Go look at any large scale dwc production. Majority of them being lettuce on rafts. I’ve been to many of farm, I’ve NEVER seen anyone of them running beneficials. It’s always sterile, because that is the standard for good reasoning. If you saw added yield from microbes guess who’s gonna be the first to implement it? Large scale production farms...

You wanna run beneficials in your 4 site bucket setup, go for it. Enjoy. When your ready to actually start producing. You’ll drop them beneficials in a heart beat.

 

[JealousLeaf]

Part of what you said was to use distilled water. As in a fragment of your statement was to put object a into object b, object a being pool shock and object b being distilled water. You said distilled, I simply responded. And you do that, but without a side by side your results are useless. Comparing totally different environments (from mine to yours, for example) is destined to be doomed because of unnacountable factors (difference in nutrients, difference in strains, difference in lights, difference in altitude, difference in air quality). I wouldn't trust the results even if my plants looked better, because it is inherently flawed and impossible to have an accurate result.

Precisely. Half of bennies job is it protect the root zone. Like if dead leaf matter/roots gets in a res, and it breaks it down into nutrients rather than that leaf matter sititng there in a sterile system decaying and feeding colonies of bad microbes creating PH fluctuation. The other half is to enhance uptake of nutrients.

If you're using a chiller and keeping the water at 67°F, will that cold temp hurt the little dudes in theirwork?

 

[Logan Burke]

My microbes cost 15-30$ per grow for 4-6 standalone 5 gallon buckets.

 

[Logan Burke]

If you're using a chiller and keeping the water at 67°F, will that cold temp hurt the little dudes in theirwork?

Not at all. You still want to aim for that water temp using bennies, but you're more protected if your temps happen to rise higher. But a lower water temp will always allow higher levels of DO, so even running bennies, there is still a big positive to keeping proper water temps.

My “attitude” has gotten me more places in life than most will ever see. I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.

Go look at any large scale dwc production. Majority of them being lettuce on rafts. I’ve been to many of farm, I’ve NEVER seen anyone of them running beneficials. It’s always sterile, because that is the standard for good reasoning. If you saw added yield from microbes guess who’s gonna be the first to implement it? Large scale production farms...

You wanna run beneficials in your 4 site bucket setup, go for it. Enjoy. When your ready to actually start producing. You’ll drop them beneficials in a heart beat.

Then why did you come to a thread that was specifically pertained to bennies? Lol, another person that 'has done it all bigger and better' or 'seen it all done bigger and better' than anyone who disagrees with their point of view. There's opinion and there's fact. You've only presented your own opinion. Which is cool, but don't be an asshole when people point out that they get great results using anything but YOUR way of thinking.

 

[5BY5LEC]

My “attitude” has gotten me more places in life than most will ever see. I’ll keep doing what I’m doing.

Go look at any large scale dwc production. Majority of them being lettuce on rafts. I’ve been to many of farm, I’ve NEVER seen anyone of them running beneficials. It’s always sterile, because that is the standard for good reasoning. If you saw added yield from microbes guess who’s gonna be the first to implement it? Large scale production farms...

You wanna run beneficials in your 4 site bucket setup, go for it. Enjoy. When your ready to actually start producing. You’ll drop them beneficials in a heart beat.

Ready to start producing?
Why is sterile so much better again? You just say, well it is because I say it is. You said well let me show you my 24 site system, where is it? You don't have any results based in fact or stats or anything, come on. Do you even have a dry weight of one vs the other? Surely you can back up your claims with facts and results, right?
Standard for good reasoning = what works and is the cheapest. Not at all what works best. Simply a matter of cost vs yield.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Ready to start producing?
Why is sterile so much better again? You just say, well it is because I say it is. You said well let me show you my 24 site system, where is it? You don't have any results based in fact or stats or anything, come on. Do you even have a dry weight of one vs the other? Surely you can back up your claims with facts and results, right?
Standard for good reasoning = what works and is the cheapest. Not at all what works best. Simply a matter of cost vs yield.

I have pages of notes from that side by side. No I do not have pictures, nor would i post them even if I did.
The sterile side out yielded the beneficial side by almost 20%. It was easier to clean. It has less chance of failure if chiller broke. It was hundreds of dollars cheaper and much easier to maintain the sterilizer vs reinnoculating every few days.

 

[Logan Burke]

Show evidence for your claim or don't claim that your method is superior, very simple.