13-11 LIGHTING SCHEDULE during FLOWERING - JUST DON'T DO IT FOR MAXIMUM YIELD!

EL Connoisseur

EL Connoisseur

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Hi all cannaculties!..I would like to share my knowledge about the lighting schedule during flowering phase..A guy who works in my local hydro store, told me to run the flowering with this schedule 13off-11on..i am now at day 15 of flowering..indeed i saw one difference between this run and my last one which was running on 12-12 schedule..the results are that in day 14 of 13/11, my flowers are like day 9 of 12/12.. i have lost 14hours of light totally..i dont have photos of this run..but the difference is totally noticable..this run i have more and better light and also i have co2 which i didnt have in 12-12..in addition my nutrients are better this run..and everything is better as i get better every next run..i have a photo of my previous 12/12 day 15 which i ll show you below the text..i realized that i should run 12/12 and i decided to switch from 13/11 to 12/12 even if i stress the plants a little.just to know this run includes 4 OGKush from dinafem..my previous 12/12 run was critical kush barneys farm..take a look from the previous run(12/12) day15.. and a photo also from the previous run(12/12) day 9, which is exactly the same as my new og kush day 14(13/11)...do you believe i can fix the difference about the final yield of the OGkush Dinafem now that i put it 12/12 even if it gets stressed a little bit?..
Thank you for passing by and i appreciate experienced answers!
Keep it flowering dudes!
Cheers :bigjoint:bongsmilie:weed::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:
 

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EL Connoisseur

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T macc said:
Could be genetics. Critical yields more than kush and could be a reason there's such a difference in flower size.

Also, did you veg this OG Kush to maturation? It will take longer for an immature plant to show flowers.

Switching back to 12/12 won't be a problem
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oh, I veged the critical for 8 weeks and the og kushs for 4.5 weeks..nice to hear that about switching to 12/12..I appreciate your experienced and quick response dude..U really make me feel better!
Cheers bro!:clap::bigjoint::clap::bigjoint::clap:
 
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T macc

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EL Connoisseur said:
oh, I veged the critical for 8 weeks and the og kushs for 4.5 weeks..nice to hear that about switching to 12/12..I appreciate your experienced and quick response dude..U really make me feel better!
Cheers bro!:clap::bigjoint::clap::bigjoint::clap:
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No problem. I just flowered immature plants for the first time recently actually. Only way I know
 
T macc

T macc

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EL Connoisseur said:
oh ok..and u noticed slower bud production in the first few weeks?than 8 weeks veg i mean..when i can take pics i ll upload some..
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I did. I usually see flower development within 2 weeks. These plants took the whole 21 days to start.

Now I'm thinking, I harvested with clear/cloudy and just a few amber trichs at day 87 of what should've taken 70-75. Maybe I should be waited some more time. Or maybe I fucked up the flowering process with a heavy defoliation at day 42. Those leaves never grew back and I think the plant struggled. Still learning lessons myself lol
 
EL Connoisseur

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T macc said:
I did. I usually see flower development within 2 weeks. These plants took the whole 21 days to start.

Now I'm thinking, I harvested with clear/cloudy and just a few amber trichs at day 87 of what should've taken 70-75. Maybe I should be waited some more time. Or maybe I fucked up the flowering process with a heavy defoliation at day 42. Those leaves never grew back and I think the plant struggled. Still learning lessons myself lol
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What do you mean ''heavy''..did you take every fan leaf or just those with the big stems?..if you did the 2nd i dont think u did something wrong..i personally like to defoliate(strip) once in day 18-21 and one at day 42(after 3 weeks) but only the large stem fan leaves at the 2nd..( i grow only indicas and mostly indica hybrids).
 
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T macc

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EL Connoisseur said:
What do you mean ''heavy''..did you take every fan leaf or just those with the big stems?..if you did the 2nd i dont think u did something wrong..i personally like to defoliate(strip) once in day 18-21 and one at day 45..
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Pretty much every leaf that wasn't surrounding a bud. Idk. The day I did it, I was thinking of that "shwazzing" book (the $500 one lol). So without even going online to look it up, I just plucked away.

Usually I'll just take big fans off to expose budsites. Won't be shwazzing again. Just regular English defoliation
 
EL Connoisseur

EL Connoisseur

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T macc said:
Pretty much every leaf that wasn't surrounding a bud. Idk. The day I did it, I was thinking of that "shwazzing" book (the $500 one lol). So without even going online to look it up, I just plucked away.

Usually I'll just take big fans off to expose budsites. Won't be shwazzing again. Just regular English defoliation
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i actually love shwazzing..but i think there is a specific time u must do it..i have watched this ''tree a light'' videos and i cant avoid the defoliation from the day i saw them..i think u must do it once at day 18-21 and then maybe u must not touch the plant till harvest unless it gets too busy again after 3 weeks..thats my logic about defoliation..and its based on that i grow only indicas and mostly indica hybrids..with sativas i cant have opinion..i have NEVER grown any sativa strain..even if i have some freebies in my fridge..
 
EL Connoisseur

EL Connoisseur

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T macc said:
Pretty much every leaf that wasn't surrounding a bud. Idk. The day I did it, I was thinking of that "shwazzing" book (the $500 one lol). So without even going online to look it up, I just plucked away.

Usually I'll just take big fans off to expose budsites. Won't be shwazzing again. Just regular English defoliation
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Check this out
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T macc

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EL Connoisseur said:
i actually love shwazzing..but i think there is a specific time u must do it..i have watched this ''tree a light'' videos and i cant avoid the defoliation from the day i saw them..i think u must do it once at day 18-21 and then maybe u must not touch the plant till harvest unless it gets too busy again after 3 weeks..thats my logic about defoliation..and its based on that i grow only indicas and mostly indica hybrids..with sativas i cant have opinion..i have NEVER grown any sativa strain..even if i have some freebies in my fridge..
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That's usually what I do. Strip at day 21 and take anything that's blocking light. I thought I remembered seeing a defoliation at day 42. It was just the initial flower strip and the 3 week strip in the video. That's where I fucked up. Thanks for sharing
 
EL Connoisseur

EL Connoisseur

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T macc said:
That's usually what I do. Strip at day 21 and take anything that's blocking light. I thought I remembered seeing a defoliation at day 42. It was just the initial flower strip and the 3 week strip in the video. That's where I fucked up. Thanks for sharing
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Np bro..keep it flowering!! :bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint:
 
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puffdatchronic

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So, you have 'lost' 14 hours of light, just over half a day and this is why your buds are 5 days behind? You do realise how ridiculous that sounds?
13/11 is perfectly fine I've used it. Tell me what 2 months of the year does nature stay at a constant 12 hrs light? I think youl find come harvest plants are getting co siderably less than 12. They actually use the dark period to bud.
 
EL Connoisseur

EL Connoisseur

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puffdatchronic said:
So, you have 'lost' 14 hours of light, just over half a day and this is why your buds are 5 days behind? You do realise how ridiculous that sounds?
13/11 is perfectly fine I've used it. Tell me what 2 months of the year does nature stay at a constant 12 hrs light? I think youl find come harvest plants are getting co siderably less than 12. They actually use the dark period to bud.
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Good job..you learned at the school how to sum..you should know that this is not a linear function noob.. every hour of lights on or off affects differently the plant, and this happens cause plant change every single moment..so go learn something..and then open your nooby mouth..oh sorry you are well-known member..LOL..and something else..your yields are lower at 11/13..you just get more resin, which is usefull only if you are main extractor,are you?..and if you are i am not..and i openen this thread for my type of usage..not yours..also you dont try to simulate the nature..u try to getting over it..if you want nature, go try some outdoors..every single noob, the same..nature and bla bla bla..you are far back away!
And an advice to you..if you want to run 13/11 for the resin, you should do it after week 3..
Good luck..!



E.C.
 
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EL Connoisseur

EL Connoisseur

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puffdatchronic said:
Please stop spouting out advice you have no idea what you are doing or talking about. I've been growing for 10 years.

Now, Considering more dark equals faster flowering, Please explain how losing 14 hours of light would set your plant back 5 days of flowering.
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From what i said before, there is nothing wrong..also you cant say its was 5 days for the only reason that the strain was different from the first one, the difference was shorter..but it was, and it was due to the one time per day..not 14 hours continuesly as a day..because the 1st 2 hours of a day in the morning, and the last 2 hours hours of a day in the night are completely different. The first 2 hours are when the plant wake up and the last 2 hours are when the plant is over producing after all day..EVERY HOUR IS DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE..and i lost 14 overproducing hours..if you cant percept this, its not my problem..Just impressed me the big proportional difference between the 2 schedules..ok?..
Good bye now, i dont have time to throw with you..
Keep it flowering.
Peace


E.C.
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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EL Connoisseur said:
From what i said before, there is nothing wrong..also you cant say its was 5 days for the only reason that the strain was different from the first one, the difference was shorter..but it was, and it was due to the one time per day..not 14 hours continuesly as a day..because the 1st 2 hours of a day in the morning, and the last 2 hours hours of a day in the night are completely different. The first 2 hours are when the plant wake up and the last 2 hours are when the plant is over producing after all day..EVERY HOUR IS DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE..and i lost 14 overproducing hours..if you cant percept this, its not my problem..Just impressed me the big proportional difference between the 2 schedules..ok?..
Good bye now, i dont have time to throw with you..
Keep it flowering.
Peace
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