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3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Here's how I would tell if it's a virus or pathogen.

Get DE, make a paste and lather up the stalk, spray the entire plant with a fine mist (underside too), and then go hog wild with the DE. In a week, take the 3 best cuttings you can find, put them in a completely separate area, far away and hit them with DE again.

Once they grow out, you'll know if it's a virus or pathogen. If so, kill and sterilize everything.

I don't think it's a pathogen or virus just based on the details and pics. Looks like an infestation. Those mites would have had to contract a virus or pathogen to carry it and they can only carry it for so long I believe.

I understand that if they are infecting plants, they can keep drawing the infection from there and carrying it, but I just don't see it. Just an infestation at the moment.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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You got a micromite. No such thing as virus in cannabis. Read up guys please, no such thing. Bleach/ peroxide everything after you do 2 back to back pyrithren bombs. 2x every 24hrs.
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Diabolical666 said:
No its not. Not in cannabis but in Sunn hemp which is a bean.
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I've read several articles, going back 2 or 3 years, which stated that WSMV and RMV could directly be transmitted to cannabis through mites in the sap. Even talk of TMV, but I don't think that was ever concluded.

Anyhow, I'm not a botanist or scientist, so I can't run lab tests to find out. I just have to read what the guys in the lab coats say and decide for myself.

Based upon the fair amount of research I did, I think it's possible. I don't think this is the case here, as I've said, but I think it's possible.

I think it's pretty unlikely to find mites on your cannabus that carry it, but not impossible.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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3rd Monkey said:
I've read several articles, going back 2 or 3 years, which stated that WSMV and RMV could directly be transmitted to cannabis through mites in the sap. Even talk of TMV, but I don't think that was ever concluded.

Anyhow, I'm not a botanist or scientist, so I can't run lab tests to find out. I just have to read what the guys in the lab coats say and decide for myself.

Based upon the fair amount of research I did, I think it's possible. I don't think this is the case here, as I've said, but I think it's possible.

I think it's pretty unlikely to find mites on your cannabus that carry it, but not impossible.
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This is a topic you really have to do more than a 2 sec google search on...then you have to think outside the box and delve into other plants that throw a mozaic pattern on the leaves...there is where you will find yout answer...much like this tmv bit also. No proof mozaic pattern hurts your plant in any way. Its genetic. I had a strain that woukd throw at least 1 mozaic looking leaf every clone. It never declined and never spread to another plant.
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Diabolical666 said:
This is a topic you really have to do more than a 2 sec google search on...then you have to think outside the box and delve into other plants that throw a mozaic pattern on the leaves...there is where you will find yout answer...much like this tmv bit also. No proof mozaic pattern hurts your plant in any way. Its genetic. I had a strain that woukd throw at least 1 mozaic looking leaf every clone. It never declined and never spread to another plant.
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It was more like a 2 week stint, Internet and textbooks, unrelated to cannabis. Some folks grow other plants too, ya know?

Anyhow, you can do the research, I've dealt with it first hand (not in camnabis), so I've come to my own conclusion. You're free to come to yours.

I agree that this is not the case here, like I said.
 
Diabolical666

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3rd Monkey said:
It was more like a 2 week stint, Internet and textbooks, unrelated to cannabis. Some folks grow other plants too, ya know?

Anyhow, you can do the research, I've dealt with it first hand (not in camnabis), so I've come to my own conclusion. You're free to come to yours.

I agree that this is not the case here, like I said.
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Ive done the research thanks. Wyen i saw the mozaic leaf on my golden goat I swan dive right into finding out wtf is going on. So you are also saying its present in other plants but no proof in cannabis. So we can agree then.
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Diabolical666 said:
Ive done the research thanks. Wyen i saw the mozaic leaf on my golden goat I swan dive right into finding out wtf is going on. So you are also saying its present in other plants but no proof in cannabis. So we can agree then.
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Not what I said, but pretty sure you know that. I said I don't think the case in this thread is virus related.

I DO think cannabis can contract MV. Just rare.
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Diabolical666 said:
So rare there has been no known cases;)
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Science disputes your claim, not that I'm a huge fan of science, but analytical data and lab studies show differently.

Then again, this thread is for geniuses, so I'll bow out, as I am not.

Good luck carrying the torch.
 
Diabolical666

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3rd Monkey said:
Science disputes your claim, not that I'm a huge fan of science, but analytical data and lab studies show differently.

Then again, this thread is for geniuses, so I'll bow out, as I am not.

Good luck carrying the torch.
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Share the scientific facts with us then. You said you " THINK its possible" ?
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Diabolical666 said:
Share the scientific facts with us then. You said you " THINK its possible" ?
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I didn't say they were facts, but analytical data and studies conducted by "scientists", not myself.

You're exactly right, I think it's possible.

You say you've done the research, so there's no reason for me to try to convince you otherwise. I'm not trying to sell a virus, I just gave my opinion that was labeled as "my opinion". Not that hard to comprehend really.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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trollsmasher said:
You guys are funny and clearly didn't read through the posts. I have been transplanting to larger pots much earlier and having the same problem. I've been getting nearly 1.5gs per watt until this problem began doing exactly what I'm doing now.
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Since I posted a joke earlier I should at least try to add something constructive.

Your probably on top of this but just wanted to make sure.

Do you always remember to use ph storage solution for your PH pen and not allow the probe to dry out?

Have you checked recently to make sure your PH meter is calibrated with the test solution?
 
boilingoil

boilingoil

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Insects are the number 1 carrier for disease transmission. Seen it many times in my 40+ years of growing this plant.
Not saying that's his problem, but eradicate the mites then see if the plants come out of it.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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boilingoil said:
Insects are the number 1 carrier for disease transmission. Seen it many times in my 40+ years of growing this plant.
Not saying that's his problem, but eradicate the mites then see if the plants come out of it.
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I'm guilty of only skimming this thread.
3 others suggest there are bugs.
I was wondering if they see bug damage in the pictures.
I don't know if it is or not just curious if Dr. Who sees bug damage in the pics in post #3.
 
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