Dr. Who
Well-Known Member
Oh I agree!!!Your not being pissy or in my face. What I posted was just from my experiance and research as well.
I did say "typically" 12/12 from seed will still take a certain amount of time to begin flowering because they need to mature. Certainly there are exceptions and some genetics will start faster. Perhaps 4-8 weeks would have been a better range. The point is plants don't begin to flower until the are genetically capable.
If you look into more nutrient lines, especially non cannabis specific lines many actually mention the transition phase as a separate period. The only people I've encountered that commonly accept 12/12 time as "flower time" are indoor cannabis growers that don't want to differentiate the phases.
You wouldn't say a plant is flowering outdoors until you saw flowers forming. It can take weeks for a plant to transition into flower from veg, and so counting from 12/12 is totally arbitrary since different plants start at different times and environment will change all of it.
I'm not trying to be pissy or offensive either but this is really basic biology and people try to over look that and think they are gods.
You said you always run 1-2 weeks longer then the breeders say, but if you counted from when the plants actually began to flower you would be flowering for the perfect amount of time. Some times they still need more time then listed because of the phenotype.
Most breeders time estimates are just that loose estimates, but when a breeder says flower time, he understands that it means from when a plant shows flowers, not from 12/12 unless they specifically list it as 12/12 time.
I know you know your stuff so I'm not trying to fight but I think you should give more consideration to the whole picture, instead of following what is commonly accepted. Based on my experiance the commonly accepted isn't always correct. People commonly call bracts calyxs, and stigma pistils. Hell I did for years until I learned that was wrong. People commonly defoliate and flush their plants but after learning more about growing I learned that was wrong.
But, to change a whole mindset of countless numbers of the non understanding......Not worth my time....Trust me, hang out here long enough and you will feel the same way too! lol....I choose my battles for attempting to put the genie back in the bottle.....Like "flushing"! Learned a few new things to "call" people from that task......
12/12 is simply an industry standard......Every book you read will say 12/12.......I wish they (The holy cannabis writers guild) would take a little time to write a few paragraphs on lighting times in bloom..Not to mention, use the proper terms for plant structure!
