All things CBD Thread

Tstat

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I know there are a lot of threads about CBD, but I am trying to gather as much info as possible in one thread dedicated to CBD.

I am interested in finding the best sites to buy from, best practices, prices, etc. I have been buying from
katsbotanicals.com and have been pretty happy with the 500 drops. I use it to help my dogs with
arthritis and a topical for fatty tumors. I also use it for my pain and well being. I'd like to make my own using isolate since it seems cheaper in the long run.

If you look at a lot of the CBD sites, prices vary quite a bit and there seems to be no quality control in place. It's pretty confusing right now...
 

jjng5

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They sell that stuff at tanning salons in this area. I've heard gas stations are next. Ugh... watch out
 

Tstat

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They sell that stuff at tanning salons in this area. I've heard gas stations are next. Ugh... watch out
I just got back from my local grow store and they had Candy Head CBD on display. $3 a candy, I bought a sour apple one.
 

jjng5

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@Tstat SWIM had to participate in a 4 hour training with exam in order to assist patients in certifying them in SWIM's state medical MJ program for medical provider recommendation. The program participated in was Thomas Jefferson University's Lambert Center for the study of medical cannabis and hemp. It took much longer than 4 hours btw -- completed over three days it was more like 6-7 hours with the examination and all the video CME's.

Anyways... any meaningful research (and it is definitely lacking due to it remaining a CI substance), research states that CBD does not really have a significant therapeutic value without THC as well. It does not need to be a 1:1 ratio, however some resources indicate that even in very small percentage of THC it is beneficial in combination with CBD versus nothing. The relationship of our body's endocannabinoid system show that both compounds play a synergistic role in their effect. The two primary methods of action are via our CB1 receptor within the brain and our CB2 receptor site within the GI tract and immune system. CBD has limited binding ability to these receptor sites (whereas THC has a high binding affinity for these receptors), however CBD does have an indirect method of action. For these reason and many others, the two substances should work together to provide a therapeutic result for the user.

You may see many products advertised as "CBD" when in reality they are "hemp oil" with no significant THC content. Some true CBD products have the maximum legal non-prescription THC content of 0.3% or 0.2% (depending upon who you ask). If you are buying non-prescription CBD therapies, be sure that you are getting this maximum allowed THC to increase the therapeutic value. Otherwise, just save your money. If you have access to medical marijuana that is going to be your best source, not only because you're able to get a product with a better CBD to THC ratio, but also because the product it self is more regulated and tested. You know exactly what you're buying and what is contained. Over the counter CBD therapies are not really regulated or tested. Same goes for over the counter vitamins; a recent study showed that 35% of vitamin products on the shelves did not accurately list their vitamin content. The FDA allows vitamin products to be 80% accurate and many do not even meet that criteria. CBD is going to be same...and likely worse since it's so expensive! If you're able to purchase thru a medical dispensary you're going to be much better off in my opinion.

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Tstat

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If you have access to medical marijuana that is going to be your best source
I have also heard this to be true. But I think it depends more on the application. I use CBD primarily for my old dogs. I don’t want any THC in my dogs. It happened once many years ago that they ate some ABV and it wasn’t pretty, lol. And ABV doesn’t have much THC left. I give them drops in their mouths and mix it with joint relief liquid or fish oil. It is really helping the stiffness and they even act like pups again.

I am a legal med patient and grow my own medicine. I’d like to maybe try growing a high CBD strain, but the plants I grow work great for my issues, and I’m a big fan of THC ;) I’m like a dispensary here, made some great pain relief rub (it works!), all kinds of edibles, ABV chocolates for sleep, and gummies.
 

Tstat

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I just bought some 1000mg isolate powder and another 500mg oil. I got a 10% discount code for https://katsbotanicals.com/
They use an app called Zapper to process credit cards now. It’s weird but it worked fine. $66.48 total for both!
 

cobyda

Member
I truly agree with your statement that there isn't much quality control in this industry, we're hoping to set the standard.

Most CBD isn't worth its price tag.

CBD is everywhere-- dispensaries, shopping malls, gas stations. Unfortunately, not all CBD is created equal. Many of the products available in the marketplace are NOT tested by third-party labs, DON'T really live up to their hype-driven health claims, and are filled with cheap ingredients.

When we created Cobyda, our mission was simple: Curate the most vetted and tested CBD products on the market. Every product in our store was selected for its quality-- not for its profit margins. Cobyda is composed of CBD enthusiasts that have a passion for health and wellness, and you can rest assured that your CBD is sourced from quality brands.

We'd love for you to check us out.

Please reach out either here via rollitup or through our contact channels if you have any questions. We'd love to help!
 
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Tstat

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research states that CBD does not really have a significant therapeutic value without THC as well.
So, I’m wondering if you are a patient who is already ingesting THC every day, would a drop or vape of CBD get the benefits of having THC binding to the brain receptors already?
 

Lucky Luke

Well-Known Member
@Tstat SWIM had to participate in a 4 hour training with exam in order to assist patients in certifying them in SWIM's state medical MJ program for medical provider recommendation. The program participated in was Thomas Jefferson University's Lambert Center for the study of medical cannabis and hemp. It took much longer than 4 hours btw -- completed over three days it was more like 6-7 hours with the examination and all the video CME's.

Anyways... any meaningful research (and it is definitely lacking due to it remaining a CI substance), research states that CBD does not really have a significant therapeutic value without THC as well. It does not need to be a 1:1 ratio, however some resources indicate that even in very small percentage of THC it is beneficial in combination with CBD versus nothing. The relationship of our body's endocannabinoid system show that both compounds play a synergistic role in their effect. The two primary methods of action are via our CB1 receptor within the brain and our CB2 receptor site within the GI tract and immune system. CBD has limited binding ability to these receptor sites (whereas THC has a high binding affinity for these receptors), however CBD does have an indirect method of action. For these reason and many others, the two substances should work together to provide a therapeutic result for the user.

You may see many products advertised as "CBD" when in reality they are "hemp oil" with no significant THC content. Some true CBD products have the maximum legal non-prescription THC content of 0.3% or 0.2% (depending upon who you ask). If you are buying non-prescription CBD therapies, be sure that you are getting this maximum allowed THC to increase the therapeutic value. Otherwise, just save your money. If you have access to medical marijuana that is going to be your best source, not only because you're able to get a product with a better CBD to THC ratio, but also because the product it self is more regulated and tested. You know exactly what you're buying and what is contained. Over the counter CBD therapies are not really regulated or tested. Same goes for over the counter vitamins; a recent study showed that 35% of vitamin products on the shelves did not accurately list their vitamin content. The FDA allows vitamin products to be 80% accurate and many do not even meet that criteria. CBD is going to be same...and likely worse since it's so expensive! If you're able to purchase thru a medical dispensary you're going to be much better off in my opinion.

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mauricem00

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I agree that quality control is non-existent and have read that the CBD on the market is made from european hemp and much of it contains heavy metals like lead and arsenic. as an mmj patient I can grow my own and grow both SSH for THC and AC/DC for CBD. this allows me to mix THC and CBD for the most effective ratio and has allowed me to stop using prescription meds for pain and hypertension avoiding the side effects of those meds
 

whitebb2727

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I get my cbd products from lazarus naturals. They have good products. If you are a disabled vet, disabled or low income you can qualify for a 40% discount.

My wife and I both use it.


Be careful as a lot of fake cbd is out there. Its plain hemp seed oil sold as cbd.
 

Lovenug

Member
I get my cbd products from lazarus naturals. They have good products. If you are a disabled vet, disabled or low income you can qualify for a 40% discount.

My wife and I both use it.


Be careful as a lot of fake cbd is out there. Its plain hemp seed oil sold as cbd.
Thanks dude, sorry to hear about your disability. I’m actually technically disabled myself but it’s more of a brain issue
 
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Lucky Luke

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CBD Crew do some nice CBD strains. All from Cannabis plants not hemp plants. Tied in with Mr Nice seeds so you know the work and claims are legit.
 
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