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NaturalFarmer

NaturalFarmer

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Fogdog said:
That's really funny Blaze.
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Fake conspiracy theories like Russia Russia Russia? Or FISA abuses from top officials feeding judges knowingly false info to spy on American citizens for political gain? all verified by congressional testimony and ignored by your SO CALLED news outlets because they are lock step with the DemocRat party and the crony capitalism they provide to them in return. The Cavier must have been so good during Clinton and Obama times for them. How they must miss it.
 
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Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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NaturalFarmer said:
Fake conspiracy theories like Russia Russia Russia? Or FISA abuses from top officials feeding judges knowingly false info to spy on American citizens for political gain? all verified by congressional testimony and ignored by your SO CALLED news outlets because they are lock step with the DemocRat party and the crony capitalism they provide to them in return.
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Derp
Hello this is earth calling "FISA abuse" is not a fact it is just an opinion
Try to pay attention
 
Fogdog

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NaturalFarmer said:
Says one of the biggest offenders of regurgitation of straight shit.
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I stick to facts to form a judgement. I agree with you about that.

I'm looking forward to learning facts that Mueller hasn't yet made public. That bit about Trump personally conducting negotiations with Russian authorities for his business for example. He did so while he was a candidate and lied about doing so. I'd like to know more about that. Seems like a corrupt act doesn't it? But I haven't made up my mind about whether or not there is enough evidence to impeach him or indict him once he leaves office. I'd like to know more. From what Cohen said, Mueller should have more information on that in his report. Trump has been pretty soft on Russia in a lot of areas. I'm interested in what evidence there is of a quid pro quo by Trump after he took office.

You can deny anything about that is in Mueller's report if you like. We haven't seen it yet. I'll wait for the facts to come to light. But I totally agree that you don't need facts to make conclusions.
 
NaturalFarmer

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Fogdog said:
I stick to facts to form a judgement. I agree with you about that.

I'm looking forward to learning facts that Mueller hasn't yet made public. That bit about Trump personally conducting negotiations with Russian authorities for his business for example. He did so while he was a candidate and lied about doing so. I'd like to know more about that. Seems like a corrupt act doesn't it? But I haven't made up my mind about whether or not there is enough evidence to impeach him or indict him once he leaves office. I'd like to know more. From what Cohen said, Mueller should have more information on that in his report. Trump has been pretty soft on Russia in a lot of areas. I'm interested in what evidence there is of a quid pro quo by Trump after he took office.

You can deny anything about that is in Mueller's report if you like. We haven't seen it yet. I'll wait for the facts to come to light. But I totally agree that you don't need facts to make conclusions.
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You are such a phony my friend. You give yourself WAY too much credit. Ill tell you why in a bit.
 
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Herb & Suds said:
When you start quoting things Rush the drug addict says , you have zero credibility but to be fair you would have made a fine member of the Jonestown cult, you have bathed in the kool-aid
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Rush?:lol:

his head looks like a Boarshead Boiled Ham still in the case at the deli..
 
V256.420

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Dear Humans,

When ALL humans grow up (maybe never because you are still monkeys) you may be able to join the rest of the universe as civil beings. Until then all I see is people complaining about "a new world order" or globalization because you fear evolution.

You all think you own this rock you live on. But all you do is destroy it for greed. You hate others because of skin color, politics, religion, wealth, power and even looks. You kill each other because you speak differently.........all the while wanting basically the same things from life. You fight over scraps of land and have been doing so since the dawn of humanity.

How long do you think this should go on? Forever? Why can't you envision a world with no borders? A world where you can love who you want freely. A world that's full of people with the same vision for the future. Why does humanity have to be so violent? Why can't they see how much they could accomplish by working together?

You wont lose your identity. You will still be an earthling and a human. What's the purpose of a country when you can have the WHOLE earth? Why be an American or Brazilian? Why call someone gay or straight? Why are their "colors" to describe a person? You are all different yet so much alike. Why should a few ideas make so much of a difference and cause so much hate and violence?

I have witnessed such hatred and despair but also the most loving and kind people I would never have thought to see in your species. I already know what both sides of this topic will respond with. Even if I tried to help humanity I would only be ridiculed and driven away. So I leave you to think of this on your own. Maybe someone will see the sense of it and start something moving. I know I have been moving and evolving for a very very long time now. Maybe it's time you join the rest of your galaxy and what ever lies beyond :blsmoke:

Good luck humans,

The Universe
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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V256.420 said:
Dear Humans,

When ALL humans grow up (maybe never because you are still monkeys) you may be able to join the rest of the universe as civil beings. Until then all I see is people complaining about "a new world order" or globalization because you fear evolution.

You all think you own this rock you live on. But all you do is destroy it for greed. You hate others because of skin color, politics, religion, wealth, power and even looks. You kill each other because you speak differently.........all the while wanting basically the same things from life. You fight over scraps of land and have been doing so since the dawn of humanity.

How long do you think this should go on? Forever? Why can't you envision a world with no borders? A world where you can love who you want freely. A world that's full of people with the same vision for the future. Why does humanity have to be so violent? Why can't they see how much they could accomplish by working together?

You wont lose your identity. You will still be an earthling and a human. What's the purpose of a country when you can have the WHOLE earth? Why be an American or Brazilian? Why call someone gay or straight? Why are their "colors" to describe a person? You are all different yet so much alike. Why should a few ideas make so much of a difference and cause so much hate and violence?

I have witnessed such hatred and despair but also the most loving and kind people I would never have thought to see in your species. I already know what both sides of this topic will respond with. Even if I tried to help humanity I would only be ridiculed and driven away. So I leave you to think of this on your own. Maybe someone will see the sense of it and start something moving. I know I have been moving and evolving for a very very long time now. Maybe it's time you join the rest of your galaxy and what ever lies beyond :blsmoke:

Good luck humans,

The Universe
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Brutal LOL
 
NaturalFarmer

NaturalFarmer

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Fogdog said:
Way too much credit?

I told you that I'm waiting for facts to become available before making up my mind. It's you who is virtue signaling about making decisions without facts.
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Not talking about in regards to the report Foggy. I'm talking about your analysis of your own perception. Sure wait until the report is out, no objections. But its got nothing. If it did you would have multiple indictments. The real collusion between foreign powers trying to influence elections in 2016 was with the Democrats. Of course they would point the fingers immediately.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/429292-the-case-for-russia-collusion-against-the-democrats
 
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Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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NaturalFarmer said:
Not talking about in regards to the report Foggy. I'm talking about your analysis of your own perception. Sure wait until the report is out, no objections. But its got nothing. If it did you would have multiple indictments. The real collusion between foreign powers trying to influence elections in 2016 was with the Democrats. Of course they would point the fingers immediately.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/429292-the-case-for-russia-collusion-against-the-democrats
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Once again ...You are directing us to an OPINION piece
 
NaturalFarmer

NaturalFarmer

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Herb & Suds said:
Once again ...You are directing us to an OPINION piece
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It says opinion right on the link Sherlock.
Here is another.
As Russia collusion fades, Ukrainian plot to help Clinton emerges

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435029-as-russia-collusion-fades-ukrainian-plot-to-help-clinton-emerges

All based on news dated 01/2017 and backed up by recent Ukrainian news of the investigation
Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
 
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Fogdog

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NaturalFarmer said:
Not talking about in regards to the report Foggy. I'm talking about your analysis of your own perception. Sure wait until the report is out, no objections. But its got nothing. If it did you would have multiple indictments. The real collusion between foreign powers trying to influence elections in 2016 was with the Democrats. Of course they would point the fingers immediately.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/429292-the-case-for-russia-collusion-against-the-democrats
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"sure wait until the report is out" "But it's got nothing"

Thanks for confirming that you don't use critical thinking and don't even have a clue about people who do.

It is a fact that Russian agents interfered with our election and there is plenty of good evidence that Trump would not have won without their help. Whether or not there is evidence that Trump corruptly gave Russia favorable treatment in return remains to be seen. I don't quite get how Uranium One and Clinton Campaign's decidedly opportunistic smear campaign using Trump's ties to Moscow factor in. First, that uraninum one story is baseless.There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton was influenced by donations to her foundation. But then again, your kind seem to think that whataboutisms are valid debate tactics even if you trot up fake stories like Uranium one. Regardless the reason your tactic whataboutism fails is because it is false logic. If Clinton committed a corrupt act, those acts wouldn't make corrupt acts by Trump acceptable.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

As shown above you aren't a critical thinker, don't need facts to make a decision and so may be dismissed as loony tunes.
 
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