Hydroguard Tea (Bacillus amyloliquefaciens)

fartoblue

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I am now reading that the bennies in Hydroguard are the boys and multiple strains just fight with each other like drunken Irishmen.

Does anyone have a recipe for Hydroguard Tea to reduce costs?
 

thenasty1

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all you need is a bucket, some dechlorinated water, an air stone, and something for them to eat (molasses, aloe, sugar, etc)
i suggest looking into southern ag garden friendly fungicide. way more concentrated than hydroguard, same bacteria species, way cheaper. no need to make tea with that stuff, its dirt cheap as it is
 

5BY5LEC

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I saw the best results when using multiple strains of bacteria, ie hydroguard and orca together, so I would not say they fight. Before I got my chiller, my res got awful hot like 80 and I did not have any problems. Made me wonder if I even needed the chiller but anyway...
As far as the tea, I think the Hiesenberg receipe may the most accepted, but again I urge you not to use the tea unless it is absolutely your only option financially. I simply dislike the idea of putting anything like molasses or sugar in my res, much less having been brewed.
Other bacteria will certainly feed off that food source, and they may not be bacteria you want. The bacteria you are adding are bacteria that naturally colonize roots and develop a relationship with the roots of the plant, so in that regard, why feed them anything at all?
 

Renfro

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I also multiply the beneficial bacteria I am using. I am using Tribus and I add carboload from AN. I let them little guys multiply with plenty of fresh air from an air stone. That tribus is expensive but this significantly cuts down on how much I have to use.

I have a 30 gallon nutrient mix tank that lasts me 2 days. When it's empty I turn on the float valve feed so the RO filter will fill the tank, when I do that I add 10mL of the tribus (instead of 30) and I add 200 mL of the carboload. I will need that mix tank is about 24 hours so they don't have long to multiply or I could use less Tribus perhaps. When it's full I shutoff the float valve feed, add nutrients, pH and start using it. That day I will use the first half and the second half gets another day to multiply.

You can't really overdo it with the little guys unless you have aero nozzles or drip emitters that could plug up. I used to do this with orca also.
 

5BY5LEC

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I saw the best results when using multiple strains of bacteria, ie hydroguard and orca together, so I would not say they fight. Before I got my chiller, my res got awful hot like 80 and I did not have any problems. Made me wonder if I even needed the chiller but anyway...
As far as the tea, I think the Hiesenberg receipe may the most accepted, but again I urge you not to use the tea unless it is absolutely your only option financially. I simply dislike the idea of putting anything like molasses or sugar in my res, much less having been brewed.
Other bacteria will certainly feed off that food source, and they may not be bacteria you want. The bacteria you are adding are bacteria that naturally colonize roots and develop a relationship with the roots of the plant, so in that regard, why feed them anything at all?
I came across this and would like to completely recant what I previously said about the tea. It saved my ass this year.
 

ounevinsmoke

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I came across this and would like to completely recant what I previously said about the tea. It saved my ass this year.
To add, molasses is eaten by the bacteria, but like you say other bacteria such as yeast feed off those kind of sugars in abundance. Humic acids would be a more appropriate food source for tea. Heisenberg recipe is actually a recipe he learned from an different Marijuana social site because we were all getting this crazy slime and he incorporated some of his own thoughts. These methods and processes are a collection of research not just his own. Glad it got you out of a bind though. Happy Growing.
 
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