Repirations for slavery

londonfog

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Ditto.

It's clear he's an angry person whose views are limited to two words: white privilege.

Outside those two words, he has no thought process of any kind.
actually many would disagree with you. Just because I curse like a fucking sailor does not mean I'm angry. You should be wise enough to know there are more than one emotion.
You argue that white privilege is not want America was built on ? I would attempt to debate but we all know when I start handing your arse to ya I will just go back on ignore. reminds me of @schuylaar bullshit.
We can always meet up to discuss and compare anything you like, and you could also sell me that gun. I do spend quit a bit of time in your neck of the woods.

Out of curiosity please name the post in which I have no thought process of any kind...or are you talking shit because you mad at my last post made at you.
 
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londonfog

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Here's a suggestion, how about everyone refrain from using racial stereotypes completely when conversing about contentious issues. When people use terms like "angry black man", "typical old white man", "white privilege", "white tears", etc... it just elicits an emotional response and in no way validates anyone's point of view, and does more to derail an actual conversation than anything else.
I'm black so I have to be an angry man. ?? At least from what I'm told. Go figure. :roll:
 

londonfog

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i wasn't even aware he was black...i've had him on ignore for a long time, and occasionally reply to a post of his i see when i "show ignored content"....
what do you mean "oh its going to cost"? the financial implications are meaningless to me...the biggest problem i have with this has nothing to do with black people...i forsee many, many white people using this as a reason to ignore minority issues. "they've been paid off for that, done deal, move on."...without fixing anything...without fixing pay inequity, without even mentioning institutionalized racism, without even attempting to fix anything..."we settled that debt, get over it"...that is my concern...not whatever you imagine it is...the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and you're a fucking truck full of hot tar
Lying fuck you put me on ignore whilst you like my post . Please STFU..and thank you
 

Fogdog

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Here's a suggestion, how about everyone refrain from using racial stereotypes completely when conversing about contentious issues. When people use terms like "angry black man", "typical old white man", "white privilege", "white tears", etc... it just elicits an emotional response and in no way validates anyone's point of view, and does more to derail an actual conversation than anything else.
Yeah, in a culture where white men rarely experience what women and people of color experience many times a day -- we should just stop referring to the stereotypes that those same white men swear by.

Its too funny that you were shocked when I referred to the angry black man stereotype that Taco called up. White tears refers to the reaction that certain white people have when they are experience what they consider a racial injustice. Typified by your reaction to having to read the words "angry black man". The stereotype was Taco's on London. I was merely calling it for what it was.
 
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BurtMaklin

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Its too funny that you were shocked when I referred to the angry black man stereotype that Taco called up
Pretty sure I didn't quote you, I just used those as examples that were fresh in the last couple pages.

Yeah, in a culture where white men rarely experience what women and people of color experience many times a day
Probably not, but I do have positive and negative experiences to varying degrees and feel the same pressures as most people. I'm not going to pretend like I know what it's like to be black, or female or whatever, I have no idea. What I do have is a wife who has been assaulted, a sister that was date raped and a daughter I don't want that to happen to. I did live in Bermuda for a few years when I was younger where all my friends were black so maybe I view things differently, was never racist, and am quite empathetic about what happened and continues to happen to people of colour. I was in a toxic relationship where I was physically assaulted a few times by an ex girlfriend who used and stole from me, but I don't judge all women by that experience. It's not about evening the score, it's about moving on and using those experiences to grow as a person.

Maybe your perception of what it is to be a white man is misguided by the fact that you aren't a white man, but that doesn't stop you from stereotyping me while knowing nothing about me. Does it make you feel better? More important? More right or vindicated?

All that anger seems to be making you more angry. Good luck with that!!
 

UncleBuck

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Pretty sure I didn't quote you, I just used those as examples that were fresh in the last couple pages.



Probably not, but I do have positive and negative experiences to varying degrees and feel the same pressures as most people. I'm not going to pretend like I know what it's like to be black, or female or whatever, I have no idea. What I do have is a wife who has been assaulted, a sister that was date raped and a daughter I don't want that to happen to. I did live in Bermuda for a few years when I was younger where all my friends were black so maybe I view things differently, was never racist, and am quite empathetic about what happened and continues to happen to people of colour. I was in a toxic relationship where I was physically assaulted a few times by an ex girlfriend who used and stole from me, but I don't judge all women by that experience. It's not about evening the score, it's about moving on and using those experiences to grow as a person.

Maybe your perception of what it is to be a white man is misguided by the fact that you aren't a white man, but that doesn't stop you from stereotyping me while knowing nothing about me. Does it make you feel better? More important? More right or vindicated?

All that anger seems to be making you more angry. Good luck with that!!
Oh you had black friends
 

UncleBuck

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Here's a suggestion, how about everyone refrain from using racial stereotypes completely when conversing about contentious issues. When people use terms like "angry black man", "typical old white man", "white privilege", "white tears", etc... it just elicits an emotional response and in no way validates anyone's point of view, and does more to derail an actual conversation than anything else.
Shut up, white
 

Fogdog

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Pretty sure I didn't quote you, I just used those as examples that were fresh in the last couple pages.



Probably not, but I do have positive and negative experiences to varying degrees and feel the same pressures as most people. I'm not going to pretend like I know what it's like to be black, or female or whatever, I have no idea. What I do have is a wife who has been assaulted, a sister that was date raped and a daughter I don't want that to happen to. I did live in Bermuda for a few years when I was younger where all my friends were black so maybe I view things differently, was never racist, and am quite empathetic about what happened and continues to happen to people of colour. I was in a toxic relationship where I was physically assaulted a few times by an ex girlfriend who used and stole from me, but I don't judge all women by that experience. It's not about evening the score, it's about moving on and using those experiences to grow as a person.

Maybe your perception of what it is to be a white man is misguided by the fact that you aren't a white man, but that doesn't stop you from stereotyping me while knowing nothing about me. Does it make you feel better? More important? More right or vindicated?

All that anger seems to be making you more angry. Good luck with that!!
Here is a suggestion. Since you "don't know what it's like to be black, female or whatever." how about letting them tell you about it? How about just shutting up and listening without comment?

Take it from a white man. As you say but haven't internalized, we have no idea and would look a whole lot less stupid if we listened rather than told people about how their lives should be.

LOL about calling me the angry black guy. Your kind just can't shake the stereotypes.
 

BurtMaklin

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Oh you had black friends
Yeah, I did. So what? It's not a big deal either way, and that was a long time ago. To be honest, I dont really have any close black friends, they're more acquaintances or friends of friends. Does that make me a Nazi?

I was taught by my father not to discriminate against anyone for any reason, whether it be race, gender, sexual orientation, whatever. I was also taught that people have a personal space, and if they want you in it, you will be invited. So I've never been lewd, aggressive or handsy with women, it's actually the thing that most attracted my wife to me, according to her.

Still not a Nazi.
 

Fogdog

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Yeah, I did. So what? It's not a big deal either way, and that was a long time ago. To be honest, I dont really have any close black friends, they're more acquaintances or friends of friends. Does that make me a Nazi?

I was taught by my father not to discriminate against anyone for any reason, whether it be race, gender, sexual orientation, whatever. I was also taught that people have a personal space, and if they want you in it, you will be invited. So I've never been lewd, aggressive or handsy with women, it's actually the thing that most attracted my wife to me, according to her.

Still not a Nazi.
LOL

I don't know if you are racist but having a black friend is such a common trope among racists that it's become a joke.

#NotRacists Be Like: The Top 10 Phrases Used by People Who Claim They Are Not Racist
https://www.theroot.com/notracists-be-like-the-top-10-phrases-used-by-peop-1819142064

You hit two or three of his top ten phrases. But you didn't hit them all, congratulations.
 

BurtMaklin

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LOL about calling me the angry black guy. Your kind just can't shake the stereotypes.

Never called you a black guy, but I did call you angry. I thought I remembered where in the Isreal thread somebody alluded to the fact you were a woman. Perhaps that was someone else. Not that it makes any difference, but if I'm mistaken, I appologize.
 

BurtMaklin

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Ronin1929

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1st of all my heart goes out to you and your situation. My grandma was 1/2 Cherokee . I was told were weren’t supposed to tell anyone cause “ there killing us she” said I don’t know how much truth is in that story. She died before I was born. My point is I empathize. Now before Lincoln was shot, and the rasict teddy johnson took over. Reperations were said to be 40 acres and a mule. To me that sounds like a house and car by today’s standards....I have heard how ever that there are some prominent black figures discussing reparations in the form of marijuana jobs. Something like 35% of all employees having to be descendants of slaves in America. ...I do like the sound of that...I’m sorry for what America did to natives. In my opinion it was worse than slavery. In someways. But I can say from my own experience that still being able to pass down your history is a blessing that shouldn’t be underestimated. As far as not understanding how people today can be looking for reparations. Just think if the natives never got their reservations. After all the pain and heartache. I know that they’re not the best places in the world. But at least her people are together. And look out for each other. As far as I can tell....Wish I could bare the load of some of the pain brother...blessings✊
 

Ronin1929

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wealth is passed down through families. many white families owe their entire wealth to the labor they stole from slaves.

these families who stole wealth from black families need to pay it back, plain and simple.
there's not one black person in America today that was a slave. there's not one white person in America today that has owned a slave. why are people who didn't do something giving anything to people that didn't have anything done to them?
this is a way for white people to assuage some kind of guilt i apparently do not feel...and for black people to get something they did not earn...you wanna reanimate some slaves, i'll be happy to pay them reparations...
Just want to educate. Knowledge is power. My great great grandmother died at 105 last year. And a house on plantation land that She grew up working on. All of them are dead yet. It’s very disrespectful what you said.We were hanged for looking at white women.They would take our testicles as trophies. They would take the wives away from the husbands make babies and treat them like dirt. Generation of generation and generations of being Beaten, programmed, raped and killed. Slavery taught us to beat our kids And continue to pass the trauma From father to son, from mother to daughter. If you’ve never lived in the ghetto, then you have never fully understood the phrase crabs in a barrel. Our communities have been systematically designed to keep us exactly where we are. And the ones that make it out are the ones that see something different.I moved out of the projects with my mother when I was like 10. And before that I had no idea that they were decent people in the world. That’s with slavery did to us. The only thing our ancestors did was pick cotton. We were promised 40 acres and a mule. If all of our grandparents were given those 40 acres and a mule. They would be no ghettos , Black on black crime, etc. Poverty breeds violence My geat grandfather being a product of rape from from a slaveowner.Is one reason, just one why reparations are not a free hand out.
 

Ronin1929

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The United States took part in the slave trade a total of 24 years.

The previous 200+ were all the product of Europe.

European nations are actually far more responsible for it than the United States is. After all, they created the entire thing.

Yep, sure thing the Europeans started our Civil War, they also created our racial divide. So cotton is not the reason why America is a super power right now?The thing about history books in schools in America. Is that they don’t tell the whole story. Some of Our elders are still alive.You should try talking to one of them and hear a story from the horses mouth.
 

Ronin1929

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Yep, sure thing the Europeans started our Civil War, they also created our racial divide. So cotton is not the reason why America is a super power right now?The thing about history books in schools in America. Is that they don’t tell the whole story. Some of Our elders are still alive.You should try talking to one of them and hear a story from the horses mouth.
Willie Lynch was a slave owner in Virginia who gave a speech that talked almost the whole entire world how to break slaves like horses. Give me a break I think that penis in your butt is messing with your thinking LOL
 
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