Schwaggy P
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Wow, thank you, that really means a lot. You are very welcome, I'm happy to have been able to help.
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Schwaggy P
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WARNING -UNVERIFIED GOSSIP : There may be a batch of packs hitting GLG as freebies for Useful Seeds. I'll get confirmation.
diggs99
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As always Schwaggy, amazing stuff
Theres a few of you standout growers on here, who everyone should be following and paying attention to their grows/info. You are at the top of that list bro, keep up the good work, im sure theres many more growers just like me whos appreciating it.
I ordered the Blueberries and Chocolate from useful before you sent the free packs last time, so i got some Dank Sinatra
Planning to grab a pack of the BOO when released again, hopefully grab a pack of your stuff with them.
Keep up the good fight bud
Theres a few of you standout growers on here, who everyone should be following and paying attention to their grows/info. You are at the top of that list bro, keep up the good work, im sure theres many more growers just like me whos appreciating it.
I ordered the Blueberries and Chocolate from useful before you sent the free packs last time, so i got some Dank Sinatra
Planning to grab a pack of the BOO when released again, hopefully grab a pack of your stuff with them.
Keep up the good fight bud
Schwaggy P
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Thank you.
Schwaggy P
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Thanks
Schwaggy P
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Skunky Brewster #8 chop at day 66
Schwaggy P
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Granny Skunk [VA Afghani x (Skelly HP x SSSC Skunk#1)]
chop at day 66
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chop at day 66
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Schwaggy P
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They're looking very happy, nice job! I sex plants in 3inch square pots, then top/clone the females and flower the clones so I have the original seed plant waiting to find out if she'll live in the library or the garbage. Thanks for posting an update.
Schwaggy P
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Green Crack x Granny Skunk - little bit of seedling frost
CoB_nUt
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This is what I'll do thank you. You are welcome my dude.
I wasn't going to post many veg pics,but since I can learn in my opinion a lot from you leaning on your passion for the plant and experience with it.
I need to start to learn to identify certain leaf and growth characteristics as you demonstrate here.
Being a strain noob,maybe it'll help other strain noobs enhance their knowledge as well.
Schwaggy P
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You're welcome. Feel free to post up veg pics, we can pick 'em apart together.
Schwaggy P
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Chocolate Covered Strawberries F2 - Day 24
I love looking at your pictures keep up the good work.
Schwaggy P
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Project: Short 'n Quick Fuel
Male Introduced: Black Lights (Black Domina x NL#1)
Tent at day 16Male Introduced: Black Lights (Black Domina x NL#1)
He arrives...
Looks like he's expressing the black leaves of the Domina.
Schwaggy P
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I decided to try out Terpinator for a current run and have found that it really improves the intensity of the smell. It is something that I would like to incorporate into my nutrient regimen. Unfortunately, the required dosage and relatively steep price has me hesitant to commit.
The label reads: Soluble Potash (K2O)……4.0%, Derived from Potassium Sulfate
Add 5-10mL/gal in veg
Add 10-30mL/gal in flower
So I have decided to try to replicate this additive by mixing my own Potassium Sulfate solution and testing it on a run of the same cut that has responded well to Terpinator.
I have done some calculations and found that in order to create the same concentration of Soluble Potash derived from Potassium Sulfate, I will need to add 300g of Potassium Sulfate per gallon of water (The math is included below).
PLEASE NOTE: I have yet to apply this to plants. I will be testing this mixture and making notes of any issues/successes and suggestions for possible further adjustment. Do not try this at home (yet). Neither Schwaggy P, nor any Schwaggy P subsidiaries are responsible for any grower attempting this recipe or the results thereof.MATERIALS
One gallon distilled water
Potassium Sulfate
Container for the solution
Scale
Gloves
Flask (optional for smaller mixed solutions)
PROCEDURE
Wearing gloves, mass the Potassium Sulfate (pic 1).
Make sure to weigh out amounts that your scale can handle. If your scale cannot handle 300g measurements, mass several “batches” of Potassium Sulfate to equal 300gCarefully transfer the Potassium Sulfate into your container (pic 2).
A funnel may be helpfulPour about half of the distilled water into the container (pic3).
Filling only half way allows room for you to shake the solution and assist the dissolving processShake the container vigorously (pic 4), then fill the container with the remaining half of distilled water. At this point you have a one-gallon terpene-enhancing additive for less than 1/10th the cost of the store bought version.
TESTING
I decided to see what the TDS contribution would be of both solutions. I added 0.5mL of each solution to their own sample of distilled water and measured the increase in TDS. The dosage is equivalent to the median recommended feeding dosage of 20mL/gallon.
In Series A, the Terp Enhancinator contributed an increase of 251.5ppm(0.5 scale)
In series B, the Terpinator contributed an increase of 379.9ppm
The DIY mix is a colorless and odorless solution, while the Terpinator has a yellowish color with a smell. These additions may explain the slight increased TDS contribution of the Terpinator. The take-away for me is that my DIY mix is not an astronomical overshoot of something like 2,600ppm. The relatively closeness of the ppm suggests the solution is not going to severely alter my reservoir chemistry.
I took a sample of nutrient solution from a reservoir to test possible precipitate formation upon addition of the DIY mix. There was no visible precipitate formation when a 10ml/gal equivalent dosage was applied. The reservoir nutrient solution had a starting concentration of 635ppm (pic 5) and finished with a 730ppm (pic 6) concentration after the DIY mix was added.
Since the final DIY mix had a slightly lower concentration contribution than the Terpinator (expected since there are more non nutritive additions) and there was friendly interaction with nutrient solution, I feel this will be okay to try on my plants. I will use begin using this mix as directed to best replicate the Terpinator and assess the performance. I will update as things progress.
REFERENCE
Potassium Sulfate MSDS
https://n.b5z.net/i/u/10066364/f/Potassium_Sulfate_-_MSDS.pdf
Potassium Sulfate Spec Sheet
https://alphachemicals.com/i/u/10066364/f/Potassium_Sulfate_-_Spec.pdf
MATH
DonBrennon
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I made some following the recipe from the thread below, I stored it in a white plastic bottle though and I think light got to it. The smell after about a month of mixing it was horrific and the small amount of testing I used it for was inconclusive, although not detrimental.View attachment 4312409
I decided to try out Terpinator for a current run and have found that it really improves the intensity of the smell. It is something that I would like to incorporate into my nutrient regimen. Unfortunately, the required dosage and relatively steep price has me hesitant to commit.
The label reads: Soluble Potash (K2O)……4.0%, Derived from Potassium Sulfate
Add 5-10mL/gal in veg
Add 10-30mL/gal in flower
So I have decided to try to replicate this additive by mixing my own Potassium Sulfate solution and testing it on a run of the same cut that has responded well to Terpinator.
I have done some calculations and found that in order to create the same concentration of Soluble Potash derived from Potassium Sulfate, I will need to add 300g of Potassium Sulfate per gallon of water (The math is included below).
MATERIALS
View attachment 4312410
One gallon distilled water
Potassium Sulfate
Container for the solution
Scale
Gloves
Flask (optional for smaller mixed solutions)
PROCEDURE
View attachment 4312411
Wearing gloves, mass the Potassium Sulfate (pic 1).
Carefully transfer the Potassium Sulfate into your container (pic 2).
Pour about half of the distilled water into the container (pic3).
Shake the container vigorously (pic 4), then fill the container with the remaining half of distilled water. At this point you have a one-gallon terpene-enhancing additive for less than 1/10th the cost of the store bought version.
TESTING
View attachment 4312412
I decided to see what the TDS contribution would be of both solutions. I added 0.5mL of each solution to their own sample of distilled water and measured the increase in TDS. The dosage is equivalent to the median recommended feeding dosage of 20mL/gallon.
In Series A, the Terp Enhancinator contributed an increase of 251.5ppm(0.5 scale)
In series B, the Terpinator contributed an increase of 379.9ppm
The DIY mix is a colorless and odorless solution, while the Terpinator has a yellowish color with a smell. These additions may explain the slight increased TDS contribution of the Terpinator. The take-away for me is that my DIY mix is not an astronomical overshoot of something like 2,600ppm. The relatively closeness of the ppm suggests the solution is not going to severely alter my reservoir chemistry.
View attachment 4312413
I took a sample of nutrient solution from a reservoir to test possible precipitate formation upon addition of the DIY mix. There was no visible precipitate formation when a 10ml/gal equivalent dosage was applied. The reservoir nutrient solution had a starting concentration of 635ppm (pic 5) and finished with a 730ppm (pic 6) concentration after the DIY mix was added.
Since the final DIY mix had a slightly lower concentration contribution than the Terpinator (expected since there are more non nutritive additions) and there was friendly interaction with nutrient solution, I feel this will be okay to try on my plants. I will use begin using this mix as directed to best replicate the Terpinator and assess the performance. I will update as things progress.
REFERENCE
Potassium Sulfate MSDS
https://n.b5z.net/i/u/10066364/f/Potassium_Sulfate_-_MSDS.pdf
Potassium Sulfate Spec Sheet
https://alphachemicals.com/i/u/10066364/f/Potassium_Sulfate_-_Spec.pdf
MATH
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-correct-homemade-terpinator-resinator-formula.915401/
Schwaggy P
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Assuming my math is correct (300g/gal), This thread's prescription of 378.5g/gal, along with much lower dosage rates (4-8mL/gal vs. 10-30mL) would only be about 50% of the recommended dosage in early flower, and 30% in later flower. This may be why you did not experience an appreciable increase in smell. In my reading, the manufacturer strongly suggests the recommended dosage in order for noticeable change.
The thread also suggests adding brown sugar to the mix as a source of carbs. I would guess this may explain the skunking of the mix after a few weeks. I have found that even the store-bought carbs with their preservatives and additions will start developing colonies and smells in the solution after awhile. I would mix lower volumes of carb solutions to avoid having large amounts sitting for extended periods of time.
I mean no disrespect to the other thread or the formula therein, my calculations came to a different conclusion and the limited testing outlined above left me feeling confident that my mix is not going to be a danger to the plants.
I'll be putting my mix to use and reporting on the findings. If it turns out to be a flop, then we still learned something.
Baja.Beaches
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Wow @schwaggyp, shades of chemistry class. Well researched & planned, complete with custom designed labels. Very cool.
After reading your first recipe I was about to ask about the need for carbs in the solution, i.e. sugar or similar but I see you have thought of that as well. Adding carbs in increments is a great idea! Makes sense.
As always, following with much interest.