Nôtre-Dame de Paris: 1163-2019

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Latest news: "the two towers are safe and cooling". Efforts continue to save as much as possible of the structure and contained artworks.

I just read that the collapsed spire was an 18th-century restoration. It was made of timber sheathed in lead. Place must be a hazmat site now. I do wonder if the great rose window made it.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
From CBS News

Authorities have not yet released any information on the cause of the fire and said it would be investigated. The fire may potentially involve renovation work that was being carried out at the site, the fire service said. Extensive scaffolding covered a portion of the roof as part of the $6.8 million project before the fire broke out.

The Paris prosecutors' office ruled out arson and possible terror-related motives, and said it was treating it as an accident, The Associated Press reports.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-paris-collapse-live-updates-today-2019-04-15/
 

BarnBuster

Virtually Unknown Member

This was so sad. Can you imagine working your entire life, as some of the craftsmen of the time did, on a structure that your great great great grandfather also worked on for his whole life? Knowing nothing of ND, I went on our library inter-library loan website. The best books on the history are all in French which I don't read. The English ones have all been checked out already, first time in decades probably.

further reading:
The city and the cathedral, a reflection of the glory of the Gothic and the Middle Ages at their high tide in the city by the Seine / Anderson, Robert Gordon, 1948

Notre-Dame de Paris / Alain Erlande-Brandenburg, 1993.

Notre-Dame of Paris / Temko, Allan, 1955

The biography of a cathedral; the living story of man's most beautiful creation / Anderson, Robert Gordon, 1944

Notre-Dame de Paris / Richard and Clara Winston, 1971





 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I'm torn. Half of me mourns the loss of the architectural and artistic history. The other half wants every vestige of catholicism to be burned off the face of the planet, no matter the significance.
Are you sure you're not committing a tautology and hating people? Religion is a basic component of our nature, and until the day that we begin to practice remaking humans from the root code on up, people will have religion. (A component of mine is to be irreligious, but that just becomes a turtle one level down. I am not exempt.)

And Catholicism is no more or less historically good or evil than any other religion. So, to hate religion is in my mind inextricable from having an equally poor opinion of humanity in general. What I do not know (but internally resist) is if that might be an appropriate response. People suck, but yet I've faith that there is enough good in us that hating them becomes as untenable as hating religion.
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
Live updates are coming in:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/notre-dame-fire/index.html

one from FoxNews

https://www.foxnews.com/world/notre-dame-golden-altar-cross-images-inside

seems the north and south windows are intact, people actually saved a lot of the art works, and some artifacts from the cathedral which is good....

almost 600mil raised for rebuilding and recontruction

Looking through some of the pictures of the aftermath right now....

Morning btw, coffee is nice and hot, working on the first cup right now....
 
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