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BudmanTX

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I was in there in '77 and '83 I think.
I'm just slack-jawed stunned to see it burn.

Being inside it felt like being in a place beyond time.

It does provide a very guilty insight into how they built the structure.

never been, think the only thing i've seen is just the pictures....loved the architecture both inside and out....

my conspiracy therorist sensors are going off with this one for some reason.....
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
never been, think the only thing i've seen is just the pictures....loved the architecture both inside and out....

my conspiracy therorist sensors are going off with this one for some reason.....
It would be a super low-exposure high-reward instance of cultural warfare, terror style. That biases my thoughts on the matter as well, especially when I think who comprises much of the unskilled/semiskilled labor pool in central Europe. I mean I think chances are less than half but more than, say, ten per cent.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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It would be a super low-exposure high-reward instance of cultural warfare, terror style. That biases my thoughts on the matter as well, especially when I think who comprises much of the unskilled/semiskilled labor pool in central Europe. I mean I think chances are less than half but more than, say, ten per cent.
The timing of the fire is beyond question my biggest hurdle to get over outright calling it an accident.

But I truly do hope it was an unforeseeable event - there's enough hate in this world as it is without (please forgive me) someone fanning the flames intentionally.
 

cannabineer

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The timing of the fire is beyond question my biggest hurdle to get over outright calling it an accident.

But I truly do hope it was an unforeseeable event - there's enough hate in this world as it is without (please forgive me) someone fanning the flames intentionally.
I concur heartily with that sentiment.

The French just reported that the destruction isn't total. I refrain from wondering what that really means.
 

BudmanTX

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The timing of the fire is beyond question my biggest hurdle to get over outright calling it an accident.

But I truly do hope it was an unforeseeable event - there's enough hate in this world as it is without (please forgive me) someone fanning the flames intentionally.
i concur as well, don't wanna fan the flames at it were. Course the thought is there, time will tell i guess....

2 min ago from the Guardian ...
usual cover story i'm guessing....till they get in there....
 

BudmanTX

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I simply don't know.

I am very saddened by the loss of the three rose windows.
i am too....only seen pictures of them, some close up and some in full, incredible works they were.......

you know on a side note, maybe they can be rebuilt when this is all over.......i'm sure there is an artist out there to help out if called......
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
i am too....only seen pictures of them, some close up and some in full, incredible works they were.......

you know on a side note, maybe they can be rebuilt when this is all over.......i'm sure there is an artist out there to help out if called......
I remember my dad telling me that modern efforts to recreate Medieval stained glass have come to nought. (We were looking at similar windows in Vienna at the time, survivors of the bombings.) We don't have the recipes. And my dad is a careful researcher of such things.

Maybe in the intervening 40 years hobbyists and craftsmen closed the gap. I do think remaking the windows to the nearest thing to original spec would be something I'd cheer on.
 

BudmanTX

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I remember my dad telling me that modern efforts to recreate Medieval stained glass have come to nought. (We were looking at similar windows in Vienna at the time, survivors of the bombings.) We don't have the recipes. And my dad is a careful researcher of such things.

Maybe in the intervening 40 years hobbyists and craftsmen closed the gap. I do think remaking the windows to the nearest thing to original spec would be something I'd cheer on.
i would too.....the reciepes are out there, the questions is where and in what book....they have already for reciepes of old dyes for lenin in the middle east. And i remember reading somewhere in egypt they found the reciepes as well for some of the painting media they used.....so they gotta be out there........
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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I simply don't know.

I am very saddened by the loss of the three rose windows.
At least some of the news is good.

"Other artifacts that weren’t affected by the fire include the Rose windows, three round glass windows dating back to the 13th century. The Archbishop of Paris said all three have been saved, BFM TV reported."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/priest-saves-artifacts-crown-thorns-notre-dame-cathedral-fire-fate-treasures?fbclid=IwAR2-vYqMmKPt1eHOd1LCn0SBC1lXt_vpRQN49btxZUrm3-uQB5EOKsS5qzk

rose window.jpg
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
At least some of the news is good.

"Other artifacts that weren’t affected by the fire include the Rose windows, three round glass windows dating back to the 13th century. The Archbishop of Paris said all three have been saved, BFM TV reported."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/priest-saves-artifacts-crown-thorns-notre-dame-cathedral-fire-fate-treasures?fbclid=IwAR2-vYqMmKPt1eHOd1LCn0SBC1lXt_vpRQN49btxZUrm3-uQB5EOKsS5qzk

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I suggest that the French authorities give the Sainte-Chapelle a good once-over. It is the single best Medieval glass monument that I know of. Started 1238; consecrated 1248. It is impossible to photograph and hard to describe how amazing the windows are in the real. I didn't want to leave.



 

BudmanTX

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I suggest that the French authorities give the Sainte-Chapelle a good once-over. It is the single best Medieval glass monument that I know of. Started 1238; consecrated 1248. It is impossible to photograph and hard to describe how amazing the windows are in the real. I didn't want to leave.



don't blame ya mate, i wouldn't wanna leave either...
 
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