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danjac82

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mango kush or mj in general ?? you lost me there.

I'm sure there are PLENTY of folks on here that know where the stable genetics are? I , do not. All the seeds i ever ordered were garbage. (nirvana, dna genetics, sweet seeds, don't recall all of them) I get good genetics from locals.[/QUOTE. I’ve grown sweet seeds Jack 47. Ok smoke but for being their most expensive seed, I wasn’t impressed
 

JSB99

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you even got your lil buddy pulling stuff out of mid air ? i have not mentioned ANY genetics that were garbage. You guys did that.


if you go to my 10 year old post , you can read all about my ice from nirvana and several others. BUT instead you guys jumped me like lil girls , assuming stuff i never said.
I say this a lot, but it bears repeating. An experienced grower can turn a plant with "bad genetics" into a decent yielder.
 

xtsho

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you even got your lil buddy pulling stuff out of mid air ? i have not mentioned ANY genetics that were garbage. You guys did that.


if you go to my 10 year old post , you can read all about my ice from nirvana and several others. BUT instead you guys jumped me like lil girls , assuming stuff i never said.

Grow up. I didn't jump anyone. You made a negative statement about some breeders and I made a positive statement. And I was very courteous doing it. Take a bong hit and chill out.

mango kush or mj in general ?? you lost me there.

I'm sure there are PLENTY of folks on here that know where the stable genetics are? I , do not. All the seeds i ever ordered were garbage. (nirvana, dna genetics, sweet seeds, don't recall all of them) I get good genetics from locals.
 

JSB99

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Everyone's got their own opinions, meaning that everyone's right, and everyone else is wrong LOL
 

danjac82

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A shit grower who takes good genetics to a finish will have good smoke. The main determining factor when it comes to potency is genetics. Sure, a nice smooth start to finish will increase quality but it’s a very minimal increase. The yield is more affected by grower skill than potency. If you’re smoking bud that’s been fully finished and it sucks, the genetics suck. Period
 

Budzbuddha

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Seems to be an ovule ... normal. Carry on with grow. Sometimes late stage nanners “ might “ show later as plant ages and isn’t going to get pollinated. Plants rodelize sometimes. As long as flowers are bulking and growing ... it is focused on blooming. If you begin stressing or introduce
“ stessors “ to your grow then it becomes the growers fault.

Keep on truckin and harvest when ready.
 

Kingrow1

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Definitely! Through decades of robust selective breeding, cross-pollination, and all the modern nutrients, many of the strains these days are resistant to all sorts of things, and can be stressed quite a bit without flipping. Not to mention how potent and high yielding current strains are.

Butwe cant breed non serrated leaves and stuff and a field of any strain looks like marijuana no matter what genetics.

We have unlocked diversity, most of mjs genetics are firmly out of our reach due to millions of years of resisting change and no new genetics to inject real change.

The plant had a survival strategy that worked well - resist genetic change but love diversity and crossing.

It truly is an awesome plant butive never witnessed instability and every seed turns out more or less as described :-)
 

Keeprollinup

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Please read your own postings back - sweet dna and nirvana do unstable genetics....?

You do realise peeps complete hundreds of grows of exactly the same genetics here regular zero issue just high grade weed.

At some point growers need to realise who the problem is - big seed banks and marijuan or their own stupid efforts to grow in denial.

Hmmmm no love for thisweed but i bet you love money power and being one of us..... :-(
I use nirvana. I'm using there seeds right now. Had no issues at all. Don't no why people always slag off the breeders. In my opinion 9 times out of 10 it's the grower. :clap:
 

getogrow

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butive never witnessed instability and every seed turns out more or less as described :-)
Then you got a LONG way to go to get on my level. "never witnessed instability" i have NEVER met a grower to claim this bullshit. NOT ONE good grower will agree with that garbage.
Quit putting words into my mouth and maybe take a few out. YOU will learn something.

Go dig through old threads and find the info that everyone had as common knowledge back then. IT APPEARS that nirvana's name is a lot better then it was 10 years ago but im not gonna go pushing a company that i personally seen chucking? why would i try to get you to buy hermies ? You really think im talkin bad about one company just because i dont like you? Where is your blue ice? pure afgan from dna ? S.A.D. from sweet? You got a lot of years to go buddy. "try" to have fun in the process :bigjoint:

This is a weed site. no reason in downgrading everyone you "think" may be a rookie.
 

getogrow

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If you would like to start a real thread for me to teach you things , then make one and lets leave this dudes alone.
 

Kingrow1

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If you would like to start a real thread for me to teach you things , then make one and lets leave this dudes alone.
Im an open independant hobby grower with a small tent - what i did on the advice of members here was to dismiss anyone particular plant or species and look at all the possible genetic strategies plants could have. I saw why trees evoled into lettuce and visa versa, i saw why some never change and some adapted, i saw extinction errors and proliferation.

So i looked at hemp and marijuana and their family as a whole.

I then put that with what i saw and what others said before confirming my assumptiondms by reading vast volumes of studies and science on the subject.

Finally i just wrote a small paragraph that encompasses all of the genetic strategy and stability into easy english and perpetuated it here in the face of those that seek to say marijuana is quite unstable genetically.

Now some growers struggle and some even with decent harvest and bud feel they should have got more but to all out trash this herb and these seed sellers with zero explanation over and above my simole analysis sees a little aggressive :-)
 
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getogrow

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in the face of those that seek to say marijuana is quite unstable genetically.
WOW man , look at yourself... i NEVER even came close to saying that. I simply named THREE "crosses" and where those THREE lil crosses came from. I'm sure there are a million crosses by now, to say 3 of them represents the whole "marijuana plant in general" is about as ignorant as it gets.

Now some growers struggle and some even with decent harvest and bud feel they should have got more but to all out trash this herb and these seed sellers with zero explanation over and above my simole analysis sees a little aggressive :-)
YIELD HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC.
"zero explanation" ? Can you read AT ALL?
 

gearshift

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I wouldn't keep chopping up your plant. Just take/post pics, and keep an eye on it. You will know when you see a male or Hermie. You're going to see bunches of sacks grouped together. If you do start seeing these bunches, don't freak, just carefully remove it.
I agree! One nana looking thingy, keep a close eye on her, a group of nanas (a small bunch of bananas) gently chop (you don't want to peal the banana and spew pollen.)
Keep a close eye and let her grow.
 

Kingrow1

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WOW man , look at yourself... i NEVER even came close to saying that. I simply named THREE "crosses" and where those THREE lil crosses came from. I'm sure there are a million crosses by now, to say 3 of them represents the whole "marijuana plant in general" is about as ignorant as it gets.


YIELD HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC.
"zero explanation" ? Can you read AT ALL?
You said 'Shit genetics are ruining our grows' and then really laid into sweet nirvana dna.... if your having issues scrolling back....

The only advice you offered was to go with locals.

Thats enough for me to question just wtf....?

:-)
 

Patricf1

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Butwe cant breed non serrated leaves and stuff and a field of any strain looks like marijuana no matter what genetics.
Not entirely true. These are all cannabis...
 

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Kingrow1

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Not entirely true. These are all cannabis...
They are pictures of very stressed plants plus ducksfoot which all show morpjhlogical change not genetic.

The second you have a true breeding non serrated strain that dosent look like cannabis let us know but a quick look through the gazillion strains so far and im not seeing what us illegals are all hoping for.

When you start here and growing your gona hear and see a lot of stuff that simply isnt true but sounds believable :-)
 
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getogrow

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The only "theory" i can come up with is that you have never actually seen a marijuana plant in person. Its ok , a lot of folks on here are newer to this stuff....you'll fit right in. :blsmoke:
 
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