Gov. Polis ruined Colorado.

[Fogdog]

January 2013, Tesla stock was about 32 bucks per share.

Today it is 260 bucks a share.

You're so full of fucking shit it's laughable.

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Your post means nothing. Prices have dropped more than that in the past and stock just went up afterward.

 

[TacoMac]

Good for you! Spend 2 billion to build a factory to sell a half billion worth of cars.

Now that's what I call a Trump plan for success!

 

[Fogdog]

Good for you! Spend 2 billion to build a factory to sell a half billion worth of cars.

Now that's what I call a Trump plan for success!

If that's what Musk is planning then yeah it's a dumb move.

Do you know what a "Straw Man fallacy" is? It's a logical fallacy where somebody puts up a dumb false argument so they can knock it down. Calling it a logical fallacy is a nice way of saying the kind of statement you made is dumb.

 

[doublejj]

If that's what Musk is planning then yeah it's a dumb move.

Do you know what a "Straw Man fallacy" is? It's a logical fallacy where somebody puts up a dumb false argument so they can knock it down. Calling it a logical fallacy is a nice way of saying the kind of statement you made is dumb.

The only ones I know that are down this hard on Tesla are Tesla stocks Short sellers, MAGA hat wearing republicans, Koch bros, and russian bots....

 

[Unclebaldrick]

If that's what Musk is planning then yeah it's a dumb move.

Do you know what a "Straw Man fallacy" is? It's a logical fallacy where somebody puts up a dumb false argument so they can knock it down. Calling it a logical fallacy is a nice way of saying the kind of statement you made is dumb.

I disagree. Calling it a logical fallacy and describing it along with other logical fallacies is great way to teach logic. Politeness has nothing to do with it.

 

[Fogdog]

I disagree. Calling it a logical fallacy and describing it along with other logical fallacies is great way to teach logic. Politeness has nothing to do with it.

I made no effort to teach when I posted that. I was mocking.

Which is more insulting to the average Trumpkin or Taco (meaning they don't know what the words "logical" and "fallacy" mean):

That is a logical fallacy.
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What a stupid thing to say.

I think they would be most insulted by something they didn't understand.

 

[TacoMac]

The only ones I know that are down this hard on Tesla are Tesla stocks Short sellers, MAGA hat wearing republicans, Koch bros, and russian bots....

How about people that actually do their homework rather than fangirling?

Here you go, fangirl:

Tesla TSLA-1.99% said it lost $702 million, or $4.10 a share, in the quarter, compared with a GAAP loss of $4.19 a share in the year-ago period.

They just lost ANOTHER three quarters of a billion dollars.

Remind us all why anyone should invest in a company that continuously loses over a billion dollars per year.

 

[doublejj]

How about people that actually do their homework rather than fangirling?

Here you go, fangirl:

Tesla TSLA-1.99% said it lost $702 million, or $4.10 a share, in the quarter, compared with a GAAP loss of $4.19 a share in the year-ago period.

They just lost ANOTHER three quarters of a billion dollars.

Remind us all why anyone should invest in a company that continuously loses over a billion dollars per year.

Tesla & Musk Hit By Trifecta Of Fossil Money, Short Money, & Media Weakness....
"Tesla and Elon Musk are having a terrible time getting basic, neutral, balanced press coverage. They’ve achieved enormous results in ramping up the Tesla Model 3 production faster than any new model car in history, they are outselling their competitors massively in North America and Europe, they still have hundreds of thousands of $1,000 pre-orders for the Tesla Model 3 more than any car ever anywhere, Teslas continue to win raves from teardown analysts and test drivers, its autonomous features continue to be the best of any production vehicles, its market capitalization is 10 times what it was 5 years ago, and the Model 3 itself is on track to soon be the fifth or sixth best selling car in the USA of any make, model, or price point (note: this doesn’t count pickup trucks and SUVs, just cars). In a normal world, this string of successes would lead to incredibly positive coverage"

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/26/tesla-musk-hit-by-trifecta-of-fossil-money-short-money-media-weakness/

 

[doublejj]

 

[doublejj]

Tesla Model 3 outguns BMW M3......

 

[bartow]

You said you grow but never share, never let anybody know about it. I merely repeated it. For some reason you like Texas laws that make you a prisoner.

Sounds like an awful way to live. In Oregon, I give it away to friends. We share and compare each other's grows.

That is one disadvantage to Texas for sure. What I do here is in fact a lonely sport. I don't know much about the laws in Oregon. When it is legal here and it will be, I am working to minimize the regulation. My opposition to over regulation goes way passed cannabis. Texas is a crazy place. The overall population is on balance pro legalize. As much as I value cannabis, it is not part of my social life. Most of the people I know don't need any of mine. They have plenty of there own.

What I am doing here is trying to get folks to embrace the concept of jury nullification. For all a judge tells a jury about what they can and can't do, a juror can completely ignore a judge and vote anyway he wants to.

The main reason I have to be so careful is that I have lots and lots of political enemies.

 

[doublejj]

Here comes the Blitzkrieg, Tesla is considering a factory in Germany......

 

[TacoMac]

Here comes the Blitzkrieg, Tesla is considering a factory in Germany......

LMAO!!!

Yet another pipe dream by Musk you blindly believe while he runs the company into the dirt.

If Elon Musk kept just 10% of the promises he made, the company wouldn't be losing A BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

 

[TacoMac]

How desperate is Elon Musk?

He's now saying that Tesla will offer its own insurance!

Wow. Just fucking wow.

 

[Fogdog]

That is one disadvantage to Texas for sure. What I do here is in fact a lonely sport. I don't know much about the laws in Oregon. When it is legal here and it will be, I am working to minimize the regulation. My opposition to over regulation goes way passed cannabis. Texas is a crazy place. The overall population is on balance pro legalize. As much as I value cannabis, it is not part of my social life. Most of the people I know don't need any of mine. They have plenty of there own.

What I am doing here is trying to get folks to embrace the concept of jury nullification. For all a judge tells a jury about what they can and can't do, a juror can completely ignore a judge and vote anyway he wants to.

The main reason I have to be so careful is that I have lots and lots of political enemies.

Funny you should bring up jury nullification. I'm due for jury duty in a couple of weeks. I do have issues with the following:

JUROR'S OATH: The oath administered is that the jurors: "Will well and truly try the matter in issue between the Plaintiff and Defendant, and a true verdict given according to the Law and evidence as given them on the trial." (ORCP 57E) When members of the jury take this oath, they become Judges of every question of fact in the case and are a part of the legal machinery for determining the claims that are made by the respective parties. They are duty bound to act fairly and impartially, and are no longer free to act upon their feelings or emotions, but only on reason and Judgment and under instructions of the Judge.

I have no issues with the oath, it's the last five words that bother me. I was a juror for a trial where the instructions from the judge for deciding intent conflicted with how I would use the word. We took an oath to follow the judge's instructions. After that trial, I resolved never again would I agree to let somebody else have that power over me. The next time I showed up, my number came up and during jury selection I said I could not agree to be bound by the judge's instructions. They then said I could go. It's a great dodge if one wants to avoid jury duty but I am bothered that the judge may tell a juror how to decide a case. If anybody says they cannot take an oath that prevents them from judging for themselves they are told they aren't allowed to be on a jury.

 

[doublejj]

Here comes the Blitzkrieg, Tesla is considering a factory in Germany......

That's a tesla charging at Volkswagen Headquarters.....let that sink in a minute

 

[londonfog]

Motor Trend on the new Tesla Semi....
"Early on, we heard that Walmart and J.B. Hunt had already placed orders for the Tesla Semi. The reported list has now expanded to include Anheuser-Busch, DHL, FedEx, Meijer, Pepsi, Ryder, Sysco, and UPS. The number of trucks in each of those orders varies significantly between companies, and it will be a while before we know whether any of them decide to order additional Semis. But there's no denying that Tesla has caught the attention of some big players in the trucking industry."
https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-semi-truck-everything-we-know/

Just found out that the 2500 deposit is non-refundable, but will move forward on a future purchase. Need to sell wife's car before moving forward..sell not give away as some people are expecting me to do

 

[doublejj]

How desperate is Elon Musk?

He's now saying that Tesla will offer its own insurance!

Wow. Just fucking wow.

The insurance product is directed mostly at those that opt into the Tesla Robo Taxi program. Right now private insurance companies are gouging Uber and Lyft drivers to the bone. Elon wants to eliminate that practice for Robo Taxi operators.....win/win

 

[doublejj]

Just found out that the 2500 deposit is non-refundable, but will move forward on a future purchase. Need to sell wife's car before moving forward..sell not give away as some people are expecting me to do

Tesla pickup is due out this fall.....wait and take a look. I think it will be a hot seller.

 

[londonfog]

Tesla pickup is due out this fall.....wait and take a look. I think it will be a hot seller.

This vehicle going to the wife. I'm/we just not going to pay for a car when she NEEDS to sell the one she has first.
I'm in a Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn edition far as trucks. Just got it in 2017 so doubtful I would trade that