Joe Biden announces he is running for president in 2020

Shua1991

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You said it at the very beginning of our argument. It's almost the entire reason I can't stand your Cult of Sanders. You said it right here:



You dickheads need our support if Sanders or Gabbard (ick) win the nomination but will withdraw your support if you don't get your way.
you're a clown. Only trump voters play coy like this, I've never seen a liberal pretend this hard to be dumb for the sake of an argument. You're really going to pretend that someone who is a member of Democratic Socialists of America has any incentive to prop up centrist Democrats. I would have voted for aoc if I was in her district, those are the kinds of Democrats I will willingly support and donate toward. Not neo-liberals. Is this finally sinking in for you? If you want popular candidates to win, run popular candidates. You keep saying Sanders is insufficient, he didn't lose to an orange con-man, he lost to a party favorite. What a fucking joke.
 

londonfog

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you're a clown. Only trump voters play coy like this, I've never seen a liberal pretend this hard to be dumb for the sake of an argument. You're really going to pretend that someone who is a member of Democratic Socialists of America has any incentive to prop up centrist Democrats. I would have voted for aoc if I was in her district, those are the kinds of Democrats I will willingly support and donate toward. Not neo-liberals. Is this finally sinking in for you? If you want popular candidates to win, run popular candidates. You keep saying Sanders is insufficient, he didn't lose to an orange con-man, he lost to a party favorite. What a fucking joke.
Sanders is all talk dude. He does not even stand up for what he stands for. He needs to stick with writing books. So out of touch he is.

When asked how he’d handle the issue of white-supremacist violence and what specifically he’d do for women of color. His answer.
"I was at the March on Washington with Dr. King" :shock:
You old senile weirdo, so was 200,000+ others. NEXT
 

Shua1991

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Sanders is all talk dude. He does not even stand up for what he stands for. He needs to stick with writing books. So out of touch he is.

When asked how he’d handle the issue of white-supremacist violence and what specifically he’d do for women of color. His answer.
"I was at the March on Washington with Dr. King" :shock:
You old senile weirdo, so was 200,000+ others. NEXT
MLK was a Democratic socialist. Most black people don't know that. Fredereck Douglas was a Democratic socialist, most black people don't know that. Malcom x was a socialist, again we don't teach this in grade school, so you may have never learned. Sanders was influenced by all 3. socialism has historical roots in black communities, a white boy like you would never know that. The women in that crowd who snapped at him for stating a fact, doesn't look good for them. Sanders didn't appear worse for wear because people are rude to him.
 

londonfog

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I'm paying attention to Kamala Harris. I do want something new other then Biden, but willing to go with due to expertise and that is what we need at a time like this. Biden/Kamala ?
 

Fogdog

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you're a clown. Only trump voters play coy like this, I've never seen a liberal pretend this hard to be dumb for the sake of an argument. You're really going to pretend that someone who is a member of Democratic Socialists of America has any incentive to prop up centrist Democrats. I would have voted for aoc if I was in her district, those are the kinds of Democrats I will willingly support and donate toward. Not neo-liberals. Is this finally sinking in for you? If you want popular candidates to win, run popular candidates. You keep saying Sanders is insufficient, he didn't lose to an orange con-man, he lost to a party favorite. What a fucking joke.
Sanders is running as a Democrat. Same with Gabbard. If either of them win, the Democratic party will celebrate them and rally to get them elected. You want that, don't you? Voting in a Democrat is the only way you'll ever see the reforms you want. But if the party chooses Biden, you'll just walk. Feckless asshat.

Ok, so start a third party then. Don't suck at Democratic teats and then holler because you wanted chocolate milk. Let Bernie run as an Independent against Trump and a Democratic nominee. I'd be sad if that split the vote to give Trump the win but at least you little termites would be owning what you are doing.
 

Shua1991

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I'm paying attention to Kamala Harris. I do want something new other then Biden, but willing to go with due to expertise and that is what we need at a time like this. Biden/Kamala ?
She's a cop. And she lies about shit she doesn't have to lie about, ON CAMERA. What kind of weak insecure fuck lies to people in order to be liked by them?
 

londonfog

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She's a cop. And she lies about shit she doesn't have to lie about, ON CAMERA. What kind of weak insecure fuck lies to people in order to be liked by them?
I have cops in my family. Only one is an asshole when it comes to weed. What lie did she tell
 

Shua1991

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I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic… [Capitalism] started out with a noble and high motive… but like most human systems it fell victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has out-lived its usefulness.” – Letter to Coretta Scott, July 18, 1952.

In a sense, you could say we’re involved in the class struggle.” – Quote to New York Times reporter, José Igelsias, 1968.

And one day we must ask the question, ‘Why are there forty million poor people in America? And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth.’ When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I’m simply saying that more and more, we’ve got to begin to ask questions about the whole society…” – Speech to Southern Christian Leadership Conference Atlanta, Georgia, August 16, 1967.

Capitalism forgets that life is social. And the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism, but in a higher synthesis.” – Speech to Southern Christian Leadership Conference Atlanta, Georgia, August 16, 1967.

Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.” – Speech to the Negro American Labor Council, 1961.

We must recognize that we can’t solve our problem now until there is a radical redistribution of economic and political power… this means a revolution of values and other things. We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together… you can’t really get rid of one without getting rid of the others… the whole structure of American life must be changed. America is a hypocritical nation and [we] must put [our] own house in order.”- Report to SCLC Staff, May 1967.

The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.” – Speech to SCLC Board, March 30, 1967.

I am now convinced that the simplest approach will prove to be the most effective – the solution to poverty is to abolish it directly by a now widely discussed matter: the guaranteed income… The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to take food from the soil or to consume the abundant animal life around them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct and immediate abolition of poverty.” – Where do We Go from Here?,1967.

You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism.” – Speech to his staff, 1966.

[W]e are saying that something is wrong … with capitalism…. There must be better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.” – Speech to his staff, 1966.

If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God’s children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell.” – Speech at Bishop Charles Mason Temple of the Church of God in Christ in support of the Memphis sanitation workers’ strike on March 18th, 1968, two weeks before he was assassinated.
 

Shua1991

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Blind following the blind.

You people are ignorant and proud of it.

"Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.” – Speechto the Negro American Labor Council, 1961.

5 years later he said this-

[W]e are saying that something is wrong … with capitalism…. There must be better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.” – Speech to his staff, 1966.
 

londonfog

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I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic… [Capitalism] started out with a noble and high motive… but like most human systems it fell victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has out-lived its usefulness.” – Letter to Coretta Scott, July 18, 1952.

In a sense, you could say we’re involved in the class struggle.” – Quote to New York Times reporter, José Igelsias, 1968.

And one day we must ask the question, ‘Why are there forty million poor people in America? And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth.’ When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I’m simply saying that more and more, we’ve got to begin to ask questions about the whole society…” – Speech to Southern Christian Leadership Conference Atlanta, Georgia, August 16, 1967.

Capitalism forgets that life is social. And the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism, but in a higher synthesis.” – Speech to Southern Christian Leadership Conference Atlanta, Georgia, August 16, 1967.

Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.” – Speech to the Negro American Labor Council, 1961.

We must recognize that we can’t solve our problem now until there is a radical redistribution of economic and political power… this means a revolution of values and other things. We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together… you can’t really get rid of one without getting rid of the others… the whole structure of American life must be changed. America is a hypocritical nation and [we] must put [our] own house in order.”- Report to SCLC Staff, May 1967.

The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.” – Speech to SCLC Board, March 30, 1967.

I am now convinced that the simplest approach will prove to be the most effective – the solution to poverty is to abolish it directly by a now widely discussed matter: the guaranteed income… The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to take food from the soil or to consume the abundant animal life around them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct and immediate abolition of poverty.” – Where do We Go from Here?,1967.

You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism.” – Speech to his staff, 1966.

[W]e are saying that something is wrong … with capitalism…. There must be better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.” – Speech to his staff, 1966.

If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God’s children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell.” – Speech at Bishop Charles Mason Temple of the Church of God in Christ in support of the Memphis sanitation workers’ strike on March 18th, 1968, two weeks before he was assassinated.
“I don’t think the Republican Party is a party full of the almighty God, nor is the Democratic Party. They both have weaknesses. And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.” MLK
 
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Fogdog

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Blind following the blind.

You people are ignorant and proud of it.

"Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.” – Speechto the Negro American Labor Council, 1961.

5 years later he said this-

[W]e are saying that something is wrong … with capitalism…. There must be better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.” – Speech to his staff, 1966.
We "are ignorant" and for proof you hold up our posts where we correct your mistakes. (snicker)

MLK never registered a party affiliation and rarely discussed his personal politics. It's fair to say that from his writings, he could be classified as a democratic socialist. In the present day, that's a wing of the Democratic party, not even a third party. The Democratic Party in his day had a terrible record of supporting human rights, same with Republican Party. Ironically, today's Republicans are claiming MLK as one of their own too.
 
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