Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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3rd Monkey said:
There's no rule saying that you guys can't do topfeeds until you have a root base.
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Yeah but if your bubbler’s on it defeats purpose of getting roots into water...let thirst and gravity do the work...and reduce chance of damping off...
 
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Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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DustyDuke said:
Anyone using co2 and have you noticed significant increases in yields and quality? I’ve been looking into the smaller bottles, the local hydro shop has a swap and go system. It ain’t cheap though
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You can raise temps to mid 80s, get much more photosynthesis...$40 per 50lb cylinder. I’m not sealed, use 4-6 50 pounders per 8-10week flower cycle in a 4x4.

Here’s my order of priority:

Get 1000ppfd across your tops;

then add supplemental reds for emerson effect (about one qb 18 or 35 per pair of 288s);

Then add far red (about 3-4 diodes per 288 for eod initiator effect;

Then CO2....

Add uvb (for higher thc %) anytime (but learn a little about which tubes, exposure time, ramp to target exposure), so you don’t damage your plants.
 
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InTheValley

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GrowerAnonymous said:
30% works really well with coco, remember that coco isnt soil and it doesnt hold water and is naturally more aeriated than soil.
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huh? Coco holds alot of water, and also takes awhile to evaporate, especially if there are no roots to suck it up. If you fill a container up with coco, water it, or soak it, like you guys do with it, and just let it sit there. even after several days, it will still hold alot of the water you put in. Then, press your fist into the coco, and see how much water comes out the bottom. Watering everyday is a waste, unless of course, your roots are sucking it up/and or your grow is extremely hot. But if its wet on top, its wet through the pot. the benefit of coco is like you said, aeration, but if your constantly soaking it, its not getting the aeration benefit. The O2 in the water you put in, is very very quickly depleted, and then the roots utilize the air pockets in the coco, but if they are constantly soaked, your not getting the best of both worlds with coco. Coco is fibrous, and holds your nutes very well also, so who ever started the myth of coco just reflects nutes, is just that, a myth.

take Neil for instance, his plants grow big, but i personally think they ALWAYS look like shit, because he is destroying the root fibers by keeping them constantly water logged. He just nutes the shit out of them constantly.

and a tip with the recharge, once a week, dont PH your water with PH down. If your PH is above 7, add 1 tsp per half gallon of water of molasses, to get the PH down to around 5.5, then add recharge, which take s your PH back up to around 8. The bennies will level out your PH in a couple hours, and all will be ok.
 
Moabfighter

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So Rome wasn’t built in a day you know. I can’t get a humidity controller, Thermostat controller CO2 etc in a day.

Appears or gro you’re saying start with the lights to go from “homegrower” to “good grower” huh. So I’ll look into a PPFD meter and upping my lights. My only problem with more lights is more power usage and more power usage more bitching from my ole lady. I have 4 qb132 and - mars hydro ts-1000. Meanwell driver. Wonder how much power I actually use and how much more lights will increase that usage.

How do I figure out my daily usage.....?
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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Moabfighter said:
So Rome wasn’t built in a day you know. I can’t get a humidity controller, Thermostat controller CO2 etc in a day.

Appears or gro you’re saying start with the lights to go from “homegrower” to “good grower” huh. So I’ll look into a PPFD meter and upping my lights. My only problem with more lights is more power usage and more power usage more bitching from my ole lady. I have 4 qb132 and - mars hydro ts-1000. Meanwell driver. Wonder how much power I actually use and how much more lights will increase that usage.

How do I figure out my daily usage.....?
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For less $s, start out with:
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Use this to convert lux to ppfd:
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/blogs/calculators/converting-lux-to-ppfd

For measuring usage, use this at ac plug to wall:
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Smokexbreak

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InTheValley said:
huh? Coco holds alot of water, and also takes awhile to evaporate, especially if there are no roots to suck it up. If you fill a container up with coco, water it, or soak it, like you guys do with it, and just let it sit there. even after several days, it will still hold alot of the water you put in. Then, press your fist into the coco, and see how much water comes out the bottom. Watering everyday is a waste, unless of course, your roots are sucking it up/and or your grow is extremely hot. But if its wet on top, its wet through the pot. the benefit of coco is like you said, aeration, but if your constantly soaking it, its not getting the aeration benefit. The O2 in the water you put in, is very very quickly depleted, and then the roots utilize the air pockets in the coco, but if they are constantly soaked, your not getting the best of both worlds with coco. Coco is fibrous, and holds your nutes very well also, so who ever started the myth of coco just reflects nutes, is just that, a myth.

take Neil for instance, his plants grow big, but i personally think they ALWAYS look like shit, because he is destroying the root fibers by keeping them constantly water logged. He just nutes the shit out of them constantly.

and a tip with the recharge, once a week, dont PH your water with PH down. If your PH is above 7, add 1 tsp per half gallon of water of molasses, to get the PH down to around 5.5, then add recharge, which take s your PH back up to around 8. The bennies will level out your PH in a couple hours, and all will be ok.
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Idk man I disagree my coco plants I multi feed daily are much bigger, thicker,
And vigorous than the coco plants I just fed when the pot was light.

I’m also watering from a reservoir that’s aerated, low ppm, twice daily, in 2gallon pots and the plants I have are bigger than the ones I did in 3 gallon pots feeding every 2-3 days.
 
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