Hermie resistant strains

[Apalchen]

It’s to the point I’ve quit running seeds for a while it got so frustrating. I have the itch again but funds won’t allow for new order atm and I don’t trust anything I already bought. And for the record I’ve actually had less herms in feminized seeds vs reg. I think someone up above nailed it on the head and said it’s breeders pumping out with out testing. I mean think about it even small breeders with not very big facility are releasing 15 new strains every few months. There is barely time to grow out the seed crop between releases so you know damn well they aren’t testing anything,but that’s okay because they use hype strains so people buy them anyways.

 

[fully#sick]

Chemdawg hermied so badly that for a long time it was clone only from the phenos that didn't hermie. It can be stabilized somewhat. I've grown feminized freebies from G13 Labs, Dinafem and Reserva Privada that were perfectly fine. No hermies and no nanners.

Chemdogs still are clone only, the 91, D, 4 etc aren't they ?

 

[fully#sick]

Its a fact that fem seeds are no more likely to go herm than regular seeds.

 

[JohnDee]

Otherwise I would love to hear what others have to recommend.

Hi 101,
I'm not interested in the latest greatest strains. One old standby for me is White Widow (or rather Black Widow...the original WW) Easy to grow if you give enough Mg. Smooth smoke, and a very nice potent high. Been growing it for over 10 years and never had it herm.
JD

 

[danjac82]

Chemdogs still are clone only, the 91, D, 4 etc aren't they ?

I’ve grown a Chemdawg called Dinachem which is chem 91 x guava chem. It’s very hermie proof. It won’t even throw late bananas in heavy stress. It’s a good plant. Good potency. High yield of rock hard buds

 

[Sunbiz1]

Chemdogs still are clone only, the 91, D, 4 etc aren't they ?

I've read the real deal is clone only, but I gave this one a shot anyways:
https://www.humboldtseeds.net/en/chemdawg/

Am close to harvest, looks and smells amazing; was hoping for pine terpines.
Wound up w/ lemony diesel.
In all fairness, my self-pollination issue is the first in a decade; only I run mainly regs.
While I'll never run the kandy kush again, I do have fem beans here I would; different breeder of course.

 

[Rob Roy]

Its a fact that fem seeds are no more likely to go herm than regular seeds.

Agreed, but I'd add..."within a given strain".

Feminized seeds made from "hermie prone" stock, like Gorilla glue, seem more likely to produce some hermies. I'm wary of making lots of seeds from these types.

Feminized seeds made from stable stock, are just as stable as a female from the same stock gotten from popping regular seeds. I sometimes use female plants derived from feminized seeds to receive pollen from regular males in my pollen chucks without any concerns.

So I think within a respective strain, you will find the stability or instability is consistent from a fem seed or a regular seed of that strain.

 

[fully#sick]

Agreed, but I'd add..."within a given strain".

Feminized seeds made from "hermie prone" stock, like Gorilla glue, seem more likely to produce some hermies. I'm wary of making lots of seeds from these types.

Feminized seeds made from stable stock, are just as stable as a female from the same stock gotten from popping regular seeds. I sometimes use female plants derived from feminized seeds to receive pollen from regular males in my pollen chucks without any concerns.

So I think within a respective strain, you will find the stability or instability is consistent from a fem seed or a regular seed of that strain.

That comes back to selections really but I agree there's certain lines that I wouldn't consider buying s1s of and others that I'd only run if I could keep a close eye on.

 

[Blue back]

I read years ago a way to tell if a seed is a good female. Where the stem was attached to the seed the hole left will be perfectly round. Males and herms will be ovel or not perfectly round. Anyone else ever herd that? It's worked for me so far every time.

 

[danjac82]

I've read the real deal is clone only, but I gave this one a shot anyways:
https://www.humboldtseeds.net/en/chemdawg/

Am close to harvest, looks and smells amazing; was hoping for pine terpines.
Wound up w/ lemony diesel.
In all fairness, my self-pollination issue is the first in a decade; only I run mainly regs.
While I'll never run the kandy kush again, I do have fem beans here I would; different breeder of course.

Chem 91, chem 4, etc are clone only but have been used in many crosses. For example, the Dinachem has real deal chem genetics. Nice sweet earthy fuel with a woody touch.. Real lung buster. Dinafem was given clones of chem 91 and guava chem seeds by the man himself. Many others as well..available in seed as crosses though

 

[danjac82]

I read years ago a way to tell if a seed is a good female. Where the stem was attached to the seed the hole left will be perfectly round. Males and herms will be ovel or not perfectly round. Anyone else ever herd that? It's worked for me so far every time.

Lol..that sounds ridiculous.

 

[Rob Roy]

I read years ago a way to tell if a seed is a good female. Where the stem was attached to the seed the hole left will be perfectly round. Males and herms will be ovel or not perfectly round. Anyone else ever herd that? It's worked for me so far every time.

When you say hole, you mean the opening in the seed shell where the tap root first emerges from ?

 

[Blue back]

When you say hole, you mean the opening in the seed shell where the tap root first emerges from ?

The round mark made from where the seed was attached to the plant.

 

[athomegrowing]

Hermaphrodites in properly chemically feminized seeds are the result of genetic abnormality.
Chemically feminizing seeds properly will not produce hermaphrodites, or males except as the result of genetic abnormality.
Hermaphrodites in seeds feminized via stress; unsure.

More growing indoors correlates with the rise of hermaphrodite plant posts and problems.

TLDR;
Stress.
Unnatural growing conditions.
Amateur growers.
Unknown/shitty genetics.
...

Artistic rendition: 8\|//

 

[hillbill]

With all the hyper poly multi hybreeds and most not really tested or selected from many individual plants over several generations, hermies seem to abound as most will have a hermie or hermie-prone ancestor or ancestors. Those genes will show down the line.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Hermaphrodites in properly chemically feminized seeds are the result of genetic abnormality.
Chemically feminizing seeds properly will not produce hermaphrodites, or males except as the result of genetic abnormality.
Hermaphrodites in seeds feminized via stress; unsure.

More growing indoors correlates with the rise of hermaphrodite plant posts and problems.

TLDR;
Stress.
Unnatural growing conditions.
Amateur growers.
Unknown/shitty genetics.
...

Artistic rendition: 8\|//

Have always wondered if flipping the switch from 18-20 hours down to 12 creates too much environmental stress.
Perhaps decreasing it incrementally is a better option, and certainly more in tune with nature.

 

[athomegrowing]

Have always wondered if flipping the switch from 18-20 hours down to 12 creates too much environmental stress.
Perhaps decreasing it incrementally is a better option, and certainly more in tune with nature.

Ruderalis is genetically pre-disposed to excel under 18-24 hours of constant light. Round peg, square hole if you are using a strain of non-ruderalis lineage and unnaturally long light cycles. You should attempt to mimic the natural lifecycle of these plants according to their genetics.

 

[Apalchen]

Plants that show under stress are weak anyways. At least mild stress. Plants should be able to be stressed some what without throwing balls. I guess if your new or have equipment failure or really mess something up bad that’s different. I am sure some of my herms have been caused by flipping early in small pots while it still pisses me off to find them at least they didn it the small test tent and not on the second run in bigger area.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Ruderalis is genetically pre-disposed to excel under 18-24 hours of constant light. Round peg, square hole if you are using a strain of non-ruderalis lineage and unnaturally long light cycles. You should attempt to mimic the natural lifecycle of these plants according to their genetics.

This is getting more difficult to determine, as breeders such as Bodhi have little or no info on lineage.
Up until recently, seedfinder(uk) provided me this; right down to the originating countries.
Sadly, they dropped all that info from their site.
Amazing how many strains go back to Afghanistan/Thailand/Mexico.
With all these new breeders, it's becoming difficult to find specific terpines I require to treat specific medical conditions.

 

[athomegrowing]

This is getting more difficult to determine, as breeders such as Bodhi have little or no info on lineage.
Up until recently, seedfinder(uk) provided me this; right down to the originating countries.
Sadly, they dropped all that info from their site.
Amazing how many strains go back to Afghanistan/Thailand/Mexico.
With all these new breeders, it's becoming difficult to find specific terpines I require to treat specific medical conditions.

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