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H.A.F.

H.A.F.

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Kushash said:
Wasn't trying to set you off was trying to have a conversation.
I am surprised you are not curious what box mine was being that it was different from yours.
Still gonna wait for an update from Dyna-Grow customer support.
Diagnosis: decrease the nutes or is it increase the nutes to deal with the deficiencies, time will tell.
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No problem dude - WE are having a conversation - someone would rather downtalk people because of their omnipotence...

I figured what you found would come up next. I tried the "leaf unhealthy" side, and nothing exactly matched. Some were close, but nothing soft, yellowing and falling off, powder, bad pH, etc.
 
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H.A.F. said:
No problem dude - WE are having a conversation - someone would rather downtalk people because of their omnipotence...

I figured what you found would come up next. I tried the "leaf unhealthy" side, and nothing exactly matched. Some were close, but nothing soft, yellowing and falling off, powder, bad pH, etc.
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Hard to tell from a conversation on a computer what a person meant.
I know a lot of great old time farmers on RIU and they really enjoy helping growers learn but they don't mince words and they don't apologize when they cause a little butt hurt. Worst case is if one of them sees it and they move away from trying to help.

I will tell you what red box I ended up at when you get there.
You got to the (leaf unhealthy" side, and nothing exactly matched. Some were close, but nothing soft, yellowing and falling off,) box.
The answer is No.
I'll help with the next one.
Are you using composted super soil?
If you are using FFOF and it hasn't been amended in anyway the answer is No.
Let us know what box you end up at.
 
H.A.F.

H.A.F.

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Kushash said:
Hard to tell from a conversation on a computer what a person meant.
I know a lot of great old time farmers on RIU and they really enjoy helping growers learn but they don't mince words and they don't apologize when they cause a little butt hurt. Worst case is if one of them sees it and they move away from trying to help.

I will tell you what red box I ended up at when you get there.
You got to the (leaf unhealthy" side, and nothing exactly matched. Some were close, but nothing soft, yellowing and falling off,) box.
The answer is No.
I'll help with the next one.
Are you using composted super soil?
If you are using FFOF and it hasn't been amended in anyway the answer is No.
Let us know what box you end up at.
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I'll save you the suspense. If you see anything you interpreted different lemme know.

Starting from the green box, orange was one path, purple the other - both came back to cal-mag or nutes.cannabis-plant-problem-flowchart.jpg
 
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And as to whether or not it is specifically boron, on Jorge Cervantes chart, the #3 note was EXACTLY what I am seeing.
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But that doesn't even matter, because the correction would be the same for any micronute - feed the damn plant.
 
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Opie1971 said:
Yes she does, the perfect plant, that’s why she’s the ‘Real, Obvious Winner’. Lol.
I wish I could show the pics of the last Sapphire Og that I flowered, she was identical to this one, from a year ago.
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Perhaps we will see some eventually? :)
 
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H.A.F.

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Kushash said:
Hard to tell from a conversation on a computer what a person meant.
I know a lot of great old time farmers on RIU and they really enjoy helping growers learn but they don't mince words and they don't apologize when they cause a little butt hurt. Worst case is if one of them sees it and they move away from trying to help.
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I get that. I am 52, retired military, degree in elementary ed, and have spent a life teaching and learning. When someone basically says (about the bowl trimmer) you already fucked up, your shit is damaged, etc. I tend to lend less credibility to other things they say. That is not how you teach, I don't care what knowledge you have to share - there are other resources.

And as it relates to the internet, those posts are the ONLY way I know about someone. It might be different in person.
 
H.A.F.

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And I know this is a competition, so I appreciate the help. The only reason I actually brought this up was that it was a dynagro specific issue, this is a dynagro sponsored competition, and I knew there was a dynagro presence that might want to help me promote their product in the best light.

And it is a pretty cool looking deficiency - as deficiencies go - and I hadn't seen it before.
 
Kushash

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H.A.F. said:
I get that. I am 52, retired military, degree in elementary ed, and have spent a life teaching and learning. When someone basically says (about the bowl trimmer) you already fucked up, your shit is damaged, etc. I tend to lend less credibility to other things they say. That is not how you teach, I don't care what knowledge you have to share - there are other resources.

And as it relates to the internet, those posts are the ONLY way I know about someone. It might be different in person.
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I didn't really follow the bowl trimmer thing but do remember some of it.
The place we differ on the chart is at junction box:
Do the leaf tips look brown or burnt?
We disagree on this one. :peace:

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H.A.F.

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Kushash said:
I didn't really follow the bowl trimmer thing but do remember some of it.
The place we differ on the chart is at junction box:
Do the leaf tips look brown or burnt?
We disagree on this one. :peace:

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OK, cool. Having had cal-mag issues before, I have had the actual tips (not the whole edge) turn brown and die off, working it's way up the leaf. So that was my interpretation of the "tips" part. Also the fact that I have been feeding low to mid-range ppm, and the "solution box" there says nute burn.

I think either way, flushing and re-feeding will be the best option. I checked again this morning before lights out and it doesn't seem any worse.

As far as the convo-vs-preaching thing, I can dig "here's what I think", or "this is what I do, maybe it will work for you".

I can also dig your style of watching me work through the problem myself so that there is actual learning instead of just "do this" and "OK" without knowing why.

But "here's what I do and if you don't you're wrong" is like water off a ducks back to me.

Thanks for the help, and if you see an issue with the flush-feed thing I am open to options.
 
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homebrewer said:
I'm using DG in this competition, where's my boron deficiency?
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Just to humor you, are you using a 50/50 FFHF and FFLD soil mix? Do you use RO water? Do you have QB's lighting your plants? Fans on or off in the dark? etc. no two grows are the same. You assuming they are is why I am ignoring you.
 
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H.A.F. said:
OK, cool. Having had cal-mag issues before, I have had the actual tips (not the whole edge) turn brown and die off, working it's way up the leaf. So that was my interpretation of the "tips" part. Also the fact that I have been feeding low to mid-range ppm, and the "solution box" there says nute burn.

I think either way, flushing and re-feeding will be the best option. I checked again this morning before lights out and it doesn't seem any worse.

As far as the convo-vs-preaching thing, I can dig "here's what I think", or "this is what I do, maybe it will work for you".

I can also dig your style of watching me work through the problem myself so that there is actual learning instead of just "do this" and "OK" without knowing why.

But "here's what I do and if you don't you're wrong" is like water off a ducks back to me.

Thanks for the help, and if you see an issue with the flush-feed thing I am open to options.
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Let us know if customer service gets back because they know the product and I'm curious what they tell you.
I just find your grow interesting with 4 different feeding styles but it is boring talking about necrotic spots isn't it.
Tired of talking about your plant.
Let's change the topic to Chlorosis.
Do you see any issues with opie1971's winning plant? :fire:
 
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Kushash said:
Let us know if customer service gets back because they know the product and I'm curious what they tell you.
I just find your grow interesting with 4 different feeding styles but it is boring talking about necrotic spots isn't it.
Tired of talking about your plant.
Let's change the topic to Chlorosis.
Do you see any issues with opie1971's winning plant? :fire:
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I think that above all it has a really cool name ;) seriously - it looks like good breeding stock, and anything you cross it with is gonna have a cool name too

Attention: If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Mesothelioma you may to be entitled to financial compensation ;)
 
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homebrewer

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H.A.F. said:
Just to humor you, are you using a 50/50 FFHF and FFLD soil mix? Do you use RO water? Do you have QB's lighting your plants? Fans on or off in the dark? etc. no two grows are the same. You assuming they are is why I am ignoring you.
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You're asking all the wrong questions.

I'm calling it right now: that plant is only going to get worse. Good luck.
 
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homebrewer said:
I'm using DG in this competition, where's my boron deficiency?
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^^^
Last attempt. This comment - and the fact that we are not growing the same strain - or even the same basic type of plant (yours is sativa, mine is indica) is why I can't take you seriously.

Have a nice day :)
 
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