Illinois medical marijuana card wait time

[Diamond 60]

Ok, thank

 

[TrailblazerTony]

It is literally impossible for it to be Republicans. Even if there was a Republican governor the Democrats have a veto proof majority in both houses. This is ALL on the Democrats.

What went around before the bill was put up and what was proven in NY is the same corporations we have were signed on to a letter to lawmakers wanting to keep homegrowing out.
The Senator and Representative who have this bill have always been wishy washy about growing, letting it be too well known that they were willing to take it out. That is why they only put up 5 plants instead of 24 to negotiate down to 12 plants.
This is very typical Democrat politics. Make promises you don't plan on providing, and then as you show, blame Republicans for it. Same reason we don't have universal healthcare in spite of Democrat majorities with a Democrat president all making the promise. And yet they blame Republicans for that too.

Also here in IL the corporations wanted to be the only ones to get grow licenses, guess what else they get in this bill? Don't count on any craft growers happening in IL as promised in the future. The corporations will be claimed to be doing a good enough job while we're paying $70/8th.

I hope you remember when it comes time to vote that this is all Democrats doing this.

And BTW, without homegrowing there is nothing legalizing about this bill. Pass a joint to someone, you're a dealer. Give someone a variety you didn't like, you're a dealer. Have a hitter box in your pocket while driving, you've got illegal transportation. Want to buy some weed, go to the same monopolies who still can't keep up with a flood of 3000 new patients they new were coming for 6 months and are using that as an excuse for price increases.
Without homegrowing for patients of more than 5 plants in the recreational bill I do not support this BS.

Ok, But Remember, with a Republican in The Governor's Mansion, I would be Dead before it ever became Legal. Also, The Last REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR REFUSED to allow People in Chronic Pain Access. People have had to Pay Doctors to Lie and Say They Have PTSD or Severe Fibro to get some Pain Relief.

 

[higuys123]

Hi, my first post!! Does anybody know if I can check my application status online?

Also, do you know if your Provisional QP will be the same as the QP that is on the card once approved? I'm thinking maybe I can check the status under the Verify Registry Card Identification Card page on the IDPH website?

Edit: The status says provisional now... will it switch to active when the actual card comes?

 

[Diamond 60]

You will get a quick response through a email whether then calling

 

[higuys123]

thanks, does anyone have a story of being denied? Is this common if you have a doctor's recommendation? Thank you!!

 

[Myk63]

Ok, But Remember, with a Republican in The Governor's Mansion, I would be Dead before it ever became Legal. Also, The Last REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR REFUSED to allow People in Chronic Pain Access. People have had to Pay Doctors to Lie and Say They Have PTSD or Severe Fibro to get some Pain Relief.

I don't deny any of that. But it's beginning to look like this was a lie to get that governor out of office. At least homegrow was, and this being his top issue was. We might get legal sales from monopolies but everything beyond that might end up being barely legal (act like it's illegal and you'll probably be OK unless you're in a backwards area). It's looking like it's going to be a very rough start.

He also wouldn't allow the medical to expand. We should at least get that. I'll go from 1 to 4 qualifying conditions, and the condition I have the most hope to treat will be listed. And hopefully my lifelong incurable disease won't need to be re-certified every 3 years (like thinking cannabis made your fingerprints change every 3 years I guess they thought it could also cure disease with no known cure).

 

[Myk63]

Hi, my first post!! Does anybody know if I can check my application status online?

Also, do you know if your Provisional QP will be the same as the QP that is on the card once approved? I'm thinking maybe I can check the status under the Verify Registry Card Identification Card page on the IDPH website?

Edit: The status says provisional now... will it switch to active when the actual card comes?

Aren't you supposed to get the provisional email within 24 hours?

There was no way to check when I applied but there was an area that made it look like you were approved that happened right after applying.

 

[TrailblazerTony]

I don't deny any of that. But it's beginning to look like this was a lie to get that governor out of office. At least homegrow was, and this being his top issue was. We might get legal sales from monopolies but everything beyond that might end up being barely legal (act like it's illegal and you'll probably be OK unless you're in a backwards area). It's looking like it's going to be a very rough start.

He also wouldn't allow the medical to expand. We should at least get that. I'll go from 1 to 4 qualifying conditions, and the condition I have the most hope to treat will be listed. And hopefully my lifelong incurable disease won't need to be re-certified every 3 years (like thinking cannabis made your fingerprints change every 3 years I guess they thought it could also cure disease with no known cure).

HB 1436 Just Passed the Senate. It will be law by Friday, sadly, only Us Card Holders can Grow. I wish you nothing but The Best Myk63. I think it sucks, but in One Regard, We are so much in Debt, if They let everyone grow, who was gonna Buy?? Not my Opinion, but I am sure it factored In, and Law Enforcement really shut down The Home Grow, threatening the Politicians. Sad

 

[Myk63]

HB 1436 Just Passed the Senate. It will be law by Friday, sadly, only Us Card Holders can Grow. I wish you nothing but The Best Myk63. I think it sucks, but in One Regard, We are so much in Debt, if They let everyone grow, who was gonna Buy?? Not my Opinion, but I am sure it factored In, and Law Enforcement really shut down The Home Grow, threatening the Politicians. Sad

Well if the bill had no homegrow I was going to be against it. But of course in true IL fashion they didn't release the final 500 page bill until the day they voted on it so my support or not wouldn't be a factor. I would've supported it with just patients growing, it's something to build on over the years as once again the naysayers' predictions all turn out to be lies as they were with medical.
Decriminalized homegrow for everyone with a $100-$200 fine is huge. Big concession for the antis, small concession for the pros. That will definitely become full homegrow eventually.

I don't like the roadside check stuff (don't remember what it is but didn't like it when I heard about it) and don't like that if you pass someone a joint you can get 6 month and a $1500 fine. It's basically a very strong decriminalization bill. Treat it like it is illegal other than where you buy it from and you should be good.
Calling our own back yards "public" property is ridiculous.
The new wording for transportation is great, although they didn't change it enough so having driver and passenger in different sections to do the same thing will probably still cause confusion with the cops. But get a lockable smell proof container, keep the weed in a jar, and you should be good with it anywhere in the vehicle out of reach of the driver. Smell proof container is an odd stipulation but OK.

I really don't think many people will homegrow twice. The first time they have a plant come into flower and they don't have an air filter they will freak at the smell that comes off. Other states have homegrow and still have a very strong tax revenue coming in.

It's a shame patients won't be able to grow until 1/1/20, or so I've heard. No reason to delay that part, we're already licensed for legal weed.

 

[TrailblazerTony]

Well if the bill had no homegrow I was going to be against it. But of course in true IL fashion they didn't release the final 500 page bill until the day they voted on it so my support or not wouldn't be a factor. I would've supported it with just patients growing, it's something to build on over the years as once again the naysayers' predictions all turn out to be lies as they were with medical.
Decriminalized homegrow for everyone with a $100-$200 fine is huge. Big concession for the antis, small concession for the pros. That will definitely become full homegrow eventually.

I don't like the roadside check stuff (don't remember what it is but didn't like it when I heard about it) and don't like that if you pass someone a joint you can get 6 month and a $1500 fine. It's basically a very strong decriminalization bill. Treat it like it is illegal other than where you buy it from and you should be good.
Calling our own back yards "public" property is ridiculous.
The new wording for transportation is great, although they didn't change it enough so having driver and passenger in different sections to do the same thing will probably still cause confusion with the cops. But get a lockable smell proof container, keep the weed in a jar, and you should be good with it anywhere in the vehicle out of reach of the driver. Smell proof container is an odd stipulation but OK.

I really don't think many people will homegrow twice. The first time they have a plant come into flower and they don't have an air filter they will freak at the smell that comes off. Other states have homegrow and still have a very strong tax revenue coming in.

It's a shame patients won't be able to grow until 1/1/20, or so I've heard. No reason to delay that part, we're already licensed for legal weed.

That was an awesome Post!! And remember, when for weeks no one was on here but 2 of us, I would not be surprised to see some new people joining wanting to know how long to get a card if They do not know about Provisional. Or wanting an idea when they can start to grow legally.

 

[Myk63]

That was an awesome Post!! And remember, when for weeks no one was on here but 2 of us, I would not be surprised to see some new people joining wanting to know how long to get a card if They do not know about Provisional. Or wanting an idea when they can start to grow legally.

I've seen someone in a FB group wanting to know how to get a card to grow. No Dr. I find it hard to comprehend how someone with either a present condition or most of the added conditions (to get the final vote later in a couple of hours but there were no nay votes from the House) doesn't have a Dr at all. It has begun.

We will have something to talk about in this section now, growing in IL.

Prepare for a shit show. If what I heard in debates is true there's going to be a rush of about 5000 people per dispensary come 1/1/20, and that's using what I consider to be low balled numbers by 3x. And that's to get weed that the cultivators couldn't keep up with an influx of 3000 in a day statewide.
I have to read that part of the bill but I'm predicting a lot worse than Canada had.

I really wish they would've released the bill's wording in January so all this could've been figured out before it was passed. I think the reason we can't grow until 1/1/20 is when they took out growing for everyone they just plugged growing for medical into it to keep from losing support of the pro side. No real thought was given to consider we're already legal. In their town halls they kept on saying everything medical is in the medical bill.

 

[Spellchek]

when they took out growing for everyone they just plugged growing for medical into it to keep from losing support of the pro side

Limiting homegrow to medical was the price to get suburban and downstate Democrats on board. It was revealed during the House debate that this deal was reached seven months ago. Home-grow for everyone was never going to stay in the bill.

You can be upset if you wish, but it was masterful politics by the sponsors.

 

[Spellchek]

Breaking: The Illinois Senate just passed SB 2023, joining approval from the House. The bi-partisan bill will make the Illinois medical cannabis program permanent, and now goes to Governor for signature. In addition, the bill provides:

New Qualifying Conditions

* definition of "Crohn's disease" now specifically includes "ulcerative colitis"
* autism
* chronic pain
* irritable bowel syndrome (IBS)
* migraines
* osteoarthritis
* anorexia nervosa
* Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome
* Neuro-Behcet's Autoimmune Disease
* neuropathy
* polycystic kidney disease
* superior canal dehiscence syndrome

and directs IDPH to establish rules permitting qualified veterans into the OAPP.

Other Changes

* eliminates requirement that certifications come from physician -- can now be a physician's assistant or an advanced practice nurse (must possess appropriate license)

* prohibits IDPH from charging annual renewal fees to qualifying cardholders with life-long debilitating medical conditions, and directs the IDPH to implement new fee rules for applicants with life-long debilitating medical conditions

* directs IDPH to provide procedures for immediate (instantaneous) changes of a cardholder's designated dispensary

* directs IDFPR to provide rules for returns and refunds for damaged/defective products

* allows up to three (3) caregivers per cardholder (up from 2)

* removes requirement that medical cannabis in a vehicle be in a "tamper evident" container (never defined in the law anyway) -- NOTE: keeps requirement of "reasonably secured, sealed" and the requirement of "reasonably inaccessible"

* adopts amendments that implement the social equity aspects of the recreational cannabis bill (brings the MCPP/OAPP in-line with the recreational bill

 

[Spellchek]

We're probably going to be the 2nd legal state in the Midwest, and, in theory, we could still beat Michigan to recreational retail

I won't pat myself on the back for predicting legalization, but its looking like my second prediction from last November might come true as well. There will (100%) be recreational stores open in Illinois on 1/1/2020. By contrast, Michigan might start recreational retail later this year .. but they can't even get a regulatory handle on their medical stores. I honestly think Illinois will be the first Midwest state where anyone over the age of 21 can legally purchase cannabis from a store.

 

[Myk63]

* prohibits IDPH from charging annual renewal fees to qualifying cardholders with life-long debilitating medical conditions, and directs the IDPH to implement new fee rules for applicants with life-long debilitating medical conditions

That is wrong. I saw that and thought I wouldn't have to pay any more. No, I won't have to have my Dr recertify I have an incurable disease every 3 years. They can definitely keep charging annual fees.

"Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, the Department of Public Health shall adopt rules for qualifying patients and applicants with life-long debilitating medical conditions, who may be charged annual renewal fees. The Department of Public Health shall not require patients and applicants with life-long debilitating medical conditions to apply to renew registry identification cards."

I know the intent because of a person working with Morgan on fixing it.

Limiting homegrow to medical was the price to get suburban and downstate Democrats on board. It was revealed during the House debate that this deal was reached seven months ago. Home-grow for everyone was never going to stay in the bill.

You can be upset if you wish, but it was masterful politics by the sponsors.

I didn't catch that in the debate (and I listened to all 3.5 painful hours).

It wasn't masterful when you consider people's quality of life is on the line and they put it off for 4 months to, if what you say is correct, submit a poorly thought out amendment that they knew was going to be what they were going to do 7 months ago just so nobody would have time to read it before they signed it.

The bill says if you grow you can only possess 30g instead of the 72g we can possess. That means if you have 30g left from your grow you can't go to the dispensary and buy the other 1.5oz you are allotted.
Even if that were fixed to say 72g instead of 30g, if you grow your own flower as a patient and you harvest over the 2.5oz, while it's nice that we can keep what you grow some patients need flower and concentrates that they can't make at home.

If they knew about this for 7 months this is poorly thought out for the needs of medical patients.

 

[Myk63]

I won't pat myself on the back for predicting legalization, but its looking like my second prediction from last November might come true as well. There will (100%) be recreational stores open in Illinois on 1/1/2020. By contrast, Michigan might start recreational retail later this year .. but they can't even get a regulatory handle on their medical stores. I honestly think Illinois will be the first Midwest state where anyone over the age of 21 can legally purchase cannabis from a store.

Don't pat yourself too hard. I did the math. By their low ball study we will have over 500,000 people trying to get into 110-120 dispensaries on 1/1/20, even less because many won't be open that day.
We're going to have a very rocky start.

And that's not even considering the 22 cultivators who couldn't handle an influx of 3000 patients they had 5 months to prepare for are expected to handle a more realistic 1,000,000 new customers because they're basing their predictions on half that much.

Unless your dispensary is staying medical only, even if they keep with the law to base medical stock on the 6 months prior, I'd stock up because lines are going to be very long.

 

[Myk63]

prohibits IDPH from charging annual renewal fees to qualifying cardholders with life-long debilitating medical conditions, and directs the IDPH to implement new fee rules for applicants with life-long debilitating medical conditions

I'm positive that's a wrong interpretation now, Representative Morgan replied to confirm it is what I thought.
Basically if you're incurable once you're approved you are always approved as long as you keep your card.

Possibly only as long as you keep your Dr, the part about not keeping your certifying Dr could require a recertification by the new Dr.
I'll probably wait for IDPH rules for that, and then if nothing is said wait until it happens or someone else asks for clarification. That's something I'd hope would get over looked no matter what the intent was. Yes being asked every 3 years if you still have your disease is a PITA for patient and Dr, but really it's finding a cannabis friendly Dr when yours goes away is a bigger issue for all.

Do you know where that comes from so they can be informed to correct it?

 

[FlyHighLady]

I was wondering if we can go to any dispensaries after 1/1/20 or will that stand as it is? How's that going to work if the recreational public can go to any dispensarie, meaning why should we have to register at 1 while everyone else can go anywhere.

Also where the heck is the like button??? Lol

 

[Myk63]

I was wondering if we can go to any dispensaries after 1/1/20 or will that stand as it is? How's that going to work if the recreational public can go to any dispensarie, meaning why should we have to register at 1 while everyone else can go anywhere.

Also where the heck is the like button??? Lol

We still have to be registered at a dispensary, our purchases still tracked, our mmj use is still in the PMP and our license plates still flagged.
This while recreational users can walk into any recreational dispensary, their 30g limit is on the honor system, their Drs won't know unless they tell them and cops will have no idea who may have recreational pot in possession by running their plates.
I see an equal protection case, although I'm leaving it open that no major controversial changes were made to medical to get it being made permanent passed easily and these issues will be fixed. I don't see how they will get away with treating the sick and disabled this differently to buy the same product for long.
If they're on the honor system we should be on the honor system which takes away the need to register at a dispensary. If their plates aren't flagged ours don't need to be. If their cannabis use is left up to them to convey to their Drs our Drs don't need to be alerted to ours.

But dispensary switches are to be immediate. I'm assuming since you can go into a dispensary and have them switch you now, you'll be able to go into a dispensary you are not registered at and have them switch you immediately whenever the rulemaking allows that to take place (that's in the medical bill not the recreational bill so 1/1/20 shouldn't apply like growing for medical does).

Reasons to keep a medical card for $100/yr, 2.5oz possession limit (why you need to carry 2.5oz I don't know or judge), legal homegrowing, taxes will be 10% on most flower, 20% on edibles, 25% on most concentrates. And THC limits, not that IL sells anything higher than any other state's recreational limits now (many of our edibles are micro-doses), but we don't know what our recreational limits are yet.
High CBD flower, while I think they should and hope they do sell high CBD flower recreationally we won't know until they start selling recreational.

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[FlyHighLady]

We still have to be registered at a dispensary, our purchases still tracked, our mmj use is still in the PMP and our license plates still flagged.
This while recreational users can walk into any recreational dispensary, their 30g limit is on the honor system, their Drs won't know unless they tell them and cops will have no idea who may have recreational pot in possession by running their plates.
I see an equal protection case, although I'm leaving it open that no major controversial changes were made to medical to get it being made permanent passed easily and these issues will be fixed. I don't see how they will get away with treating the sick and disabled this differently to buy the same product for long.
If they're on the honor system we should be on the honor system which takes away the need to register at a dispensary. If their plates aren't flagged ours don't need to be. If their cannabis use is left up to them to convey to their Drs our Drs don't need to be alerted to ours.

But dispensary switches are to be immediate. I'm assuming since you can go into a dispensary and have them switch you now, you'll be able to go into a dispensary you are not registered at and have them switch you immediately whenever the rulemaking allows that to take place (that's in the medical bill not the recreational bill so 1/1/20 shouldn't apply like growing for medical does).

Reasons to keep a medical card for $100/yr, 2.5oz possession limit (why you need to carry 2.5oz I don't know or judge), legal homegrowing, taxes will be 10% on most flower, 20% on edibles, 25% on most concentrates. And THC limits, not that IL sells anything higher than any other state's recreational limits now (many of our edibles are micro-doses), but we don't know what our recreational limits are yet.
High CBD flower, while I think they should and hope they do sell high CBD flower recreationally we won't know until they start selling recreational.

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Thank You For The Information! Sucks For Medical Users Though, But Not Surprised.