Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[StickyBudHound]

Only thing I didn't like was the Ca toxicity.

It's not that it will create a toxicity, but it will cock block other elements into lockout in excess.

The silicate part was interesting, but they made it out as if the potassium silicate is what reduces pests, stress, etc. It's actually largely just the potassium, not that silica doesn't do wonders. That's why you'll hear of old growers rubbing banana peels on their leaves.

Just my thoughts.

Good points 3M.

Yes, definitely don't just provide a butt load of Ca. And no, it isn't just the silica that helps with all those things. I think the point I was getting to was there's no specific ratio between using Si with Ca and to use mfr suggested doses per gallon when applying to waterings. They're synergistic with each other.

However, the silica does definitely help certain nutes uptake into the plant and use them more efficiently to promote a stronger root system and thicker cell walls and stronger branches which does help protect against both draught and pests.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Good points 3M.

Yes, definitely don't just provide a butt load of Ca. And no, it isn't just the silica that helps with all those things. I think the point I was getting to was there's no specific ratio between using Si with Ca and to use mfr suggested doses per gallon when applying to waterings. They're synergistic with each other.

However, the silica does definitely help certain nutes uptake into the plant and use them more efficiently to promote a stronger root system and thicker cell walls and stronger branches which does help protect against both draught and pests.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I saw right where you were headed.

I was just nitpicking the article because it was definitely biased in a sense and left points out in favor of promoting silica. It's not a magical cure all, but it is fantastic.

 

[iceman2494]

Good points 3M.

Yes, definitely don't just provide a butt load of Ca. And no, it isn't just the silica that helps with all those things. I think the point I was getting to was there's no specific ratio between using Si with Ca and to use mfr suggested doses per gallon when applying to waterings. They're synergistic with each other.

However, the silica does definitely help certain nutes uptake into the plant and use them more efficiently to promote a stronger root system and thicker cell walls and stronger branches which does help protect against both draught and pests.

Idk about silica blast . I’ve seen loads of ppl use it without a problem with results.

 

[schmebulock]

Everybody's workin for the weekends~~~



Gonna smoosh

 

[3rd Monkey]

I’m not backing off. You guys are my BEST friends.

What did I do wrong. Where did I pick bad judgement?

Please tell me.

It's not that you picked bad judgement per se, but you're carrying on an argument that has been half solved and the other half won't be known til tomorrow.

At the end of the day, doesn't really matter where it came from or who bred it in my opinion. You're still going to have to pheno hunt it, then trait hunt it if you're going to do anything with it.

Otherwise, it's just some weed in your bowl.

 

[schmebulock]

It's not that you picked bad judgement per se, but you're carrying on an argument that has been half solved and the other half won't be known til tomorrow.

At the end of the day, doesn't really matter where it came from or who bred it in my opinion. You're still going to have to pheno hunt it, then trait hunt it if you're going to do anything with it.

Otherwise, it's just some weed in your bowl.

Sage wisdom.

 

[StickyBudHound]

Idk about silica blast . I’ve seen loads of ppl use it without a problem with results.

You're right, me too. The type of silicate in silica blast adds more salt though. I guess part of my opinion about adding more salt is biased by my desire to move to a more organic soil type of grow, as much as possible anyway, to improve the quality of the bud smoke.

 

[Moabfighter]

Smoke man I’m sorry for the disagreement.

My thought is if I can’t trust the vendor who ethos linked me to, who can I trust?

I can’t order from ethos whatever dot com.

They give a few sites to order from. Paid sites that sponsor ethos and vice verca.... if they’re giving me fake freebies...... don’t really know what to say except I sure hope they aren’t. I expect they aren’t.

That’s all I’m getting at man you’re my friend and I don’t want any problems. YOU specifically are the reason I ordered Ethos.

 

[Smokexbreak]

Waiting on you to explain why. I gotta question who ethos told me to buy from. M
Waiting.

I’ve already got explained it multiple times dude. I don’t know how else to explain this so you’ll understand where I’m coming from.

But I’ll try this one more time.

Okay here we go.

So my thought process was this.

You’ve got strains that you were sold by a seed company that says they’re from the breeder ETHOS.

If you get on ETHOS website they’re not on there but every other strain they’ve bred is. Along with their new release and show only strains.

Why?

Red flag #1

You get on the owner of ETHOS breeding companies IG. He’s made mention of none of these strains. But at the same time mentions and posts all the new strains they’ve been working on this whole month. And none of those strains were mentioned.

Why?

Red flag #2

You get on one of his tester growers website and she’s mentioned all these new beans that are on ETHOS website and she’s showing her final results but yet none of the strains you’re talking about are on there

Why?

Red flag #3

You get beans from vendor that are in breeder packs and on the ETHOS website but yet the ones that didn’t come in packs aren’t on ETHOS website, Breeders IG, breeders tester growers IG.

Why?

Red flag #4

Can you see why the discrepancies in all of these would cause one to question if the seeds that the middle man sent were actually from said breeder?

If you go back and read what I post about this. I said very clearly “IM NOT SAYING THEY’RE FAKE BUT THIS WOULD MAKE ME SKEPTICAL.” And that “I’D EMAIL ETHOS TO VERIFY THESE BEANS ARE LEGIT”


Now this is the last thing I’m going to say about this. And I’m done explaining this if you can’t understand why this would make someone skeptical and want to do some research to verify the money they are spending are on legitimate products idk what else I can say or do to make you understand.

Yes they are a listed vendor on the breeder site. But that doesn’t mean the distributors are acting with morals or doing good business or aren’t out here trying to get one over on someone. And if they are out here ripping people off on fake beans that’s not on the breeder that’s on the vendor.

Anyway I’m done with this. I hope they’re legit Andy if they are good. I’m glad.

 

[Smokexbreak]

What we gonna do tomorrow when ethos emails back and says every single one of them is legit?

Sorry Moab maybe you were right on trusting the handful of sites ethos linked you to? Because that’s what’s gonna happen.

Just wondering how I’m being made out to look like the dick.

Sorry.

I was confident in ethos retailers that you yourself linked me to smoke.

We are gonna wipe our brows off and check that vendor off as a legitimate source to buy ethos genetics.

 

[Moabfighter]

Man I don’t know about sillica blast. Never snapped so many nose stems in my life when I used that.....

Don’t doubt they hold rocks up.

But training while stems are all hardened up are a pain I swear. You’ll see. It’s not the absolute worst. But I prefer myna

I’ve already got explained it multiple times dude. I don’t know how else to explain this so you’ll understand where I’m coming from.

But I’ll try this one more time.

Okay here we go.

So my thought process was this.

You’ve got strains that you were sold by a seed company that says they’re from the breeder ETHOS.

If you get on ETHOS website they’re not on there but every other strain they’ve bred is. Along with their new release and show only strains.

Why?

Red flag #1

You get on the owner of ETHOS breeding companies IG. He’s made mention of none of these strains. But at the same time mentions and posts all the new strains they’ve been working on this whole month. And none of those strains were mentioned.

Why?

Red flag #2

You get on one of his tester growers website and she’s mentioned all these new beans that are on ETHOS website and she’s showing her final results but yet none of the strains you’re talking about are on there

Why?

Red flag #3

You get beans from vendor that are in breeder packs and on the ETHOS website but yet the ones that didn’t come in packs aren’t on ETHOS website, Breeders IG, breeders tester growers IG.

Why?

Red flag #4

Can you see why the discrepancies in all of these would cause one to question if the seeds that the middle man sent were actually from said breeder?

If you go back and read what I post about this. I said very clearly “IM NOT SAYING THEY’RE FAKE BUT THIS WOULD MAKE ME SKEPTICAL.” And that “I’D EMAIL ETHOS TO VERIFY THESE BEANS ARE LEGIT”


Now this is the last thing I’m going to say about this. And I’m done explaining this if you can’t understand why this would make someone skeptical and want to do some research to verify the money they are spending are on legitimate products idk what else I can say or do to make you understand.

Yes they are a listed vendor on the breeder site. But that doesn’t mean the distributors are acting with morals or doing good business or aren’t out here trying to get one over on someone. And if they are out here ripping people off on fake beans that’s not on the breeder that’s on the vendor.

Anyway I’m done with this. I hope they’re legit Andy if they are good. I’m glad.

dude. I feel you. Can you feel me? Ethos says buy from these sites. More than one site besides Maine had the cherry Garcia angry hulk millions of peaches etc freebies though.

If Maine’s lying, I’ll screenshot you 3-5 other sites that were lying aswell.

My thought is if I’m buying from an ethos approved site.... you’re goddamn right they’re legit. Right???

Please no hard feelings man.

 

[Smokexbreak]

I’m not backing off. You guys are my BEST friends.

What did I do wrong. Where did I pick bad judgement?

Please tell me.

This was never a personal attack on you dude. And you took it personally that’s kinda the thing man it wasn’t a knock on you or anyone it was just questioning discrepancies. This WAS NOT about you or anything you did wrong and at the time of you ordering them I wouldn’t have thought anything different than you did. I coincidentally watch SHN,Colin’s IG, and his tester breeders IG pretty closely I’d have never noticed these discrepancies. Which is why I brought this up. It’s for verification and verification only nothing more nothing less.

 

[Moabfighter]

I wish you could confirm them smoke so you’d accept one of each from me and fucking grow them so I can see their true potential because you’re a way better grower than I am....... they’re wasting with me. Had you yours picked up for a month but you never seemed to want them

 

[iceman2494]

I’ve already got explained it multiple times dude. I don’t know how else to explain this so you’ll understand where I’m coming from.

But I’ll try this one more time.

Okay here we go.

So my thought process was this.

You’ve got strains that you were sold by a seed company that says they’re from the breeder ETHOS.

If you get on ETHOS website they’re not on there but every other strain they’ve bred is. Along with their new release and show only strains.

Why?

Red flag #1

You get on the owner of ETHOS breeding companies IG. He’s made mention of none of these strains. But at the same time mentions and posts all the new strains they’ve been working on this whole month. And none of those strains were mentioned.

Why?

Red flag #2

You get on one of his tester growers website and she’s mentioned all these new beans that are on ETHOS website and she’s showing her final results but yet none of the strains you’re talking about are on there

Why?

Red flag #3

You get beans from vendor that are in breeder packs and on the ETHOS website but yet the ones that didn’t come in packs aren’t on ETHOS website, Breeders IG, breeders tester growers IG.

Why?

Red flag #4

Can you see why the discrepancies in all of these would cause one to question if the seeds that the middle man sent were actually from said breeder?

If you go back and read what I post about this. I said very clearly “IM NOT SAYING THEY’RE FAKE BUT THIS WOULD MAKE ME SKEPTICAL.” And that “I’D EMAIL ETHOS TO VERIFY THESE BEANS ARE LEGIT”


Now this is the last thing I’m going to say about this. And I’m done explaining this if you can’t understand why this would make someone skeptical and want to do some research to verify the money they are spending are on legitimate products idk what else I can say or do to make you understand.

Yes they are a listed vendor on the breeder site. But that doesn’t mean the distributors are acting with morals or doing good business or aren’t out here trying to get one over on someone. And if they are out here ripping people off on fake beans that’s not on the breeder that’s on the vendor.

Anyway I’m done with this. I hope they’re legit Andy if they are good. I’m glad.

Ok and the answer to it all is this . Guessing tropic thunder is a real ethos but helped by another company . So can we move on ?

 

[Moabfighter]

I’m asking you. Please confirm them. So you can accept them and grow them. You turned me on to great genetics. Me and iceman allegedly have “rares” by them.

I want to share them with my friends. Ie you.

 

[Smokexbreak]

Man I don’t know about sillica blast. Never snapped so many nose stems in my life when I used that.....

Don’t doubt they hold rocks up.

But training while stems are all hardened up are a pain I swear. You’ll see. It’s not the absolute worst. But I prefer myna

dude. I feel you. Can you feel me? Ethos says buy from these sites. More than one site besides Maine had the cherry Garcia angry hulk millions of peaches etc freebies though.

If Maine’s lying, I’ll screenshot you 3-5 other sites that were lying aswell.

My thought is if I’m buying from an ethos approved site.... you’re goddamn right they’re legit. Right???

Please no hard feelings man.

I’m with you I agree I just questioned the discrepancies. Because I noticed It. There’s no hard feelings I just felt like you were twisting what I was trying to say and that shit frustrates me to no end I was never once doubting you. Or questioning you I just didn’t understand why those beans weren’t on the ETHOS website.

 

[Moabfighter]

Works for me @iceman2494 id love to share these strains with you on Thursday around 8,9,10. Pm ET.

Let me know. Bring you a few seedsma blueberry too

 

[Smokexbreak]

Ok and the answer to it all is this . Guessing tropic thunder is a real ethos but helped by another company . So can we move on ?

This right here answered every question I had. Which is why I was saying email ethos. There’s got to be a legitimate reason behind them not being on their website.

 

[Moabfighter]

I bought some strawberry cough off strainly once allegedly from “symbiotic genetics” and I messaged them....: they never ran Strawberry Cough before.
So I totally feel you.

But if I’m buying off a site the man says to buy from and they’re selling me phoney stuff..... that wasn’t my fault at all. I did what I could. Shouldn’t have to ask the breeder if they’re sure the handful of people they send seeds to are offering legit products/promos etc

 

[Smokexbreak]

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I saw right where you were headed.

I was just nitpicking the article because it was definitely biased in a sense and left points out in favor of promoting silica. It's not a magical cure all, but it is fantastic.

Well I’m still buying rhinoskin lmao.