chuck estevez
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if you can see 3 mites, you are already infested. TMV in cannabis is BS.
Is this Tobacco Mosaic Virus? Tiger-stripe camo pattern on my leaves!
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S'Manta
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Oh, I love that you used...rosier.
I put the TMV question to my club, lots of horticulturists and botanists and entomologists....and they love to read tech stuff. I'll get back to this. It is Father's Day. hehe.
Burnt Reynolds
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Broad mites. You can't treat them like spider mites, you're gonna have to break out the big guns with something like Avid.Here! Here is a perfect example of what the ones I chucked looked like. This isn't my picture but it's just the same.
thump easy
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broad mites are a bitch arent they man i treated mine and they did great way worse than that..
Da Mann
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Some dont believe in Mosaic virus on MJ. I have seen it. Grandpa was a farmer and he taught me lots. There are 4 types of Mosaic virus I know can hit MJ. Potato, Tobacco and the Rose kind. I cant remember the other. Oh ya. Tomato. Probably more. They will typically wilt the leaves and the new growth coming on will usually not fully develop before it kills it. The pic that Apical Bud posted is a very good example. It lives in the soil. Where potatoes are farmed that is all that can grow there because of it. It kills everything else. Everyone has a opinion and that is what makes the world go round.
SnapsProvolone
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Looks like mosaic virus to me. RNA Pro works.
S'Manta
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This is from Penn State Extension:
"Symptoms vary with the species of plant infected and the environmental conditions. In some cases environmental conditions bring out symptoms while other conditions mask or hide symptoms. Symptoms associated with TMV infections:
- stunting
- mosaic pattern of light and dark green (or yellow and green) on the leaves
- malformation of leaves or growing points
- yellow streaking of leaves (especially monocots)
- yellow spotting on leaves
- distinct yellowing only of veins
Managing TMV
No chemicals cure a virus-infected plant".
tattooman1968
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Well putting tobacco in the compost and having mites you really have diagnosed your own issues.
Mites !! Ughhhh you do need to be more vigilant. with that as you know.
Your compost was a boner, just asking for trouble there.
You would have been better off with miracle grow potting mix.
Mites !! Ughhhh you do need to be more vigilant. with that as you know.
Your compost was a boner, just asking for trouble there.
You would have been better off with miracle grow potting mix.
budznsudz
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I am not sure if tmv is real but I do know there is a real virus that I personally seen ruin 3 different growers ops. Ppl told me it was not a virus I ordered the kit for tmv it said negative. When I would show any grower the plants they said ph, this diffeciency bugs this and that. So I would give plants away to see if these so called master growers knew wtf they were talkin about. Sure enough I seen it spread like a wildfire and he still tells me it's ph. This guy doesn't even own a ph tester em grows all organic but now all of a sudden he has to constantly check ph and all his plants jus grew a lot slower loss of yeild big time. Another grower I gave a clone to he sad e could fix the problem actually ended up agreeing with me after it spread through his garden. It's probably not tmv but there is definately a virus that is widespread and ppl are in denial about.
SnapsProvolone
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Not a cure but a treatment. I have cured a strain that was infected, used RNA Pro with another trick that will remain undisclosed. Those that have experience with TMV / HMV know it is real and does infect cannabis.
S'Manta
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Isn't a forum a place where people with common interests get together to 'share' information? Unless you have applied for a patent for your "trick that shall remain undisclosed", why wouldn't you share it with this guy?
Grammar School is where you hear, I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you.....sheesh
jondamon
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Isn't a forum a place where people with common interests get together to 'share' information? Unless you have applied for a patent for your "trick that shall remain undisclosed", why wouldn't you share it with this guy?
Grammar School is where you hear, I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you.....sheesh
He doesn't say because Snaps is a consultant offering out his services for a fee.
If he freely gave his knowledge without that fee he would be out of pocket.
(Not digging at you Snaps at all!)
J
S'Manta
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I had no idea he was a professional consultant.
This is from American Phytopathology Society:
. "Under experimental conditions, it has been shown that TMV can be inactivated when workers dip their contaminated hands in milk prior to planting. This inexpensive technique greatly reduces the incidence of disease (Figure 12). Seedlings that are known to be susceptible should not be transplanted into soil that contains TMV-contaminated root or plant debris."
I think if I thought my plants had TMV I would put some milk in a spray bottle and drench the girls in a luxurious milk bath.
Good luck...
This is from American Phytopathology Society:
. "Under experimental conditions, it has been shown that TMV can be inactivated when workers dip their contaminated hands in milk prior to planting. This inexpensive technique greatly reduces the incidence of disease (Figure 12). Seedlings that are known to be susceptible should not be transplanted into soil that contains TMV-contaminated root or plant debris."
I think if I thought my plants had TMV I would put some milk in a spray bottle and drench the girls in a luxurious milk bath.
Good luck...
SnapsProvolone
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I'm under no obligation to giveaway knoweledge. Please understand that some of us do this for a living. Hate if you wish, no sweat off my back. Mi rarely come by here anymore anyway because of the attitudes.Isn't a forum a place where people with common interests get together to 'share' information? Unless you have applied for a patent for your "trick that shall remain undisclosed", why wouldn't you share it with this guy?
Grammar School is where you hear, I know something you don't know and I'm not going to tell you.....sheesh
S'Manta
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How are new members supposed to know who is whom?
You seem to have the attitude.
Apical Bud
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Fellahs, you all need to calm down, maybe smoke some weed
Maybe there is an enzyme in cow milk that inactivates the virus. I'll spray one plant, water (after pHing with aspirin) and spray another, and spray a third. I'll spray two others with miticides, and flush two others. We will get to the bottom of this! Thanks for all the time and thought that all of you have thusfar put into my problem, but don't think you're all off the hook yet lol!
Maybe there is an enzyme in cow milk that inactivates the virus. I'll spray one plant, water (after pHing with aspirin) and spray another, and spray a third. I'll spray two others with miticides, and flush two others. We will get to the bottom of this! Thanks for all the time and thought that all of you have thusfar put into my problem, but don't think you're all off the hook yet lol!
Apical Bud
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So it's been 5 years. I ended up throwing the bastards out and never got to the bottom of shit. I don't think it was mites, though.
jondamon
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Did you check for Broad or Russet mites with good magnification?
Apical Bud
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I had a 10 times magnifying glass and could see the tiny hairs on the underside of the leaf, but I remember not being convinced that mites were the issue because the few mites I did see were easily visible with a magnifying glass, but on careful examination of the plants I didn't see more than a few of these.
I am inclined to think it was some sort of virus just because I couldn't see a large infestation of mites. Keep in mind that it happened to every single plant from that grow, and affected the whole plants.
I think it could very well be a virus; it doesn't have to be tobacco mosaic virus, since cannabis and tobacco aren't even in the same order! But that doesn't mean there aren't viruses that can infect plants.