oldbeancounter
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Looks like they have white wool sweaters on in a couple pics
unreal
that is as good as it gets
unreal
that is as good as it gets
UV Suppliment Lighting
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oldbeancounter
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the question will be how does it smoke after drying and quick cure tester lol
GreeneryBob
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You might want to consider micropropagation for sending anything across any borders.
https://microclone.com/ is one kit available.
Not that you would do that.
Or_Gro
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Hey man, thank you very much. Tissue culture is high on my to-learn list.
Have you used this product(s) or any other?
I have a sterile room with hepa filtration...what would be a good how-to reference for tissue culture in this type environment?
GreeneryBob
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Nope, bought a great book on it and a hepa filter to build a laminar flow hood 20 years ago, haha. I need to get into it finally. It seems like a great way to preserve genetics and almost kinda sorta get around plant counts. I need to get a lab up and running for Mrs. GreeneryBob's orchids anyways.
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Or_Gro
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Pm me when you get going, if you want a sidekick to learn this tek with...i bot the starter 36, will see what’s involved, and try not to release a zombie-like mutant...
Thanks again
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GreeneryBob
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Cool. Here are some OLD resources from the book: (You should think about buying the book)
Also, Fungi Perfecti has prebuild flow hoods, blowers, agar, autoclaves, fliters, you name it.
Sorry for the thread hijack everyone else..
Also, Fungi Perfecti has prebuild flow hoods, blowers, agar, autoclaves, fliters, you name it.
Sorry for the thread hijack everyone else..
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Randomblame
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No, the only time I get purpling , not very often is winter when it's cold rather than summer cool in the grow room.
No Bud Candy or any other additive really needed. Just green fingers and love.
The only time I use additives is if they're on sale in the bargain basement aisle of the grow shop which is rare.
I might order a pack of those uv strips to dot around the main flowering room, especially under those R2T Disco Boards that have uv-a in them.
They're cheap, around £5 for 7 strips. Worth a punt.
I wonder if there's any uv in the lm301bs lm561cs worth talking about ?
Stick one of those uv indicators under my 24hr on veg light and see if it eventually turns pink.
It might take awhile. .......
Yeah, purpleling has to be in their genetic. UV can only increase it if the genetic is already there. A green strain will probably stay green even if it get's cold or not. And with UV its almost the same...
Or_Gro
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See pics above, both under uva & uvb for entire flowering cycle...
nachooo
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Can confirm that.
Or_Gro
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daveybc
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I posted this over in the QB DIY thread but maybe more appropriate for here ( unless I missed a better thread ). HLG is now selling UVA on 22" strips. I am in the market for some UV but as always I like to know what to expect. I did talk to Dennis at Solacure and it seems he has a nice product, I also checked out Agromax Pure UV. I like the thought of the HLG strips as they would fit into a substrate with ease. below is what I posted. the UVB seems to be a different beast altogether. Any input is appreciated.
I would love to grab a couple of those. They would fit so much better than the tubes mentioned. Longer exposure to the UVA would help with powder mildew/fungus and bugs apparently ( if what I read is correct ) Perhaps keep more compact healthy etc, but would it really increase THC compared to UVA mixed w/UVB tubes.. One thing to think about the UVB could deteriorate parts inside tent after long exposure. Fans, cables, dehumidifier, perhaps tent itself.. I am interested in more info on this..
HLG just got back to me as i ask if they had UV: "We are currently selling this at cost for research"
I remember @HydroRed was running UVA. Any feedback perhaps? Are you happy with? or wished for UVB mixed in?
Thegermling said: ↑
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/all/products/hlg-36-uva
I would love to grab a couple of those. They would fit so much better than the tubes mentioned. Longer exposure to the UVA would help with powder mildew/fungus and bugs apparently ( if what I read is correct ) Perhaps keep more compact healthy etc, but would it really increase THC compared to UVA mixed w/UVB tubes.. One thing to think about the UVB could deteriorate parts inside tent after long exposure. Fans, cables, dehumidifier, perhaps tent itself.. I am interested in more info on this..
HLG just got back to me as i ask if they had UV: "We are currently selling this at cost for research"
I remember @HydroRed was running UVA. Any feedback perhaps? Are you happy with? or wished for UVB mixed in?
Thegermling said: ↑
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/all/products/hlg-36-uva
oldbeancounter
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Or_Gro
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What’s your protocol with solacure? When you start, how you ramp, what height, how many uW/sq cm?
Thanks
oldbeancounter
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@Or_Gro
I actually used the solacure at first to see how much a plant can handle before major damage occurred.
I ran one 48 inch bulb at 32 watts 20 inches above plant a skittles-glue knockoff for 2 hours twice a day(worked slowly up to this).
Can't give you the uW/sq cm as no idea how to work that out?
Plant is in area 5 by 5 feet but is open room so no reflection or exact sq footage is available yet
I would not go over 2 hours at that distance(twice a day) .
Started one hour, then 2 hours twice over 16 hours after a week.
Then moved to 4 hours twice a day(16 hour light on) and observed heavy leaf damage so be careful.
Plants do smell more and there is some light leaf damage so you will really have to keep and eye on them till you get an idea of the power as they can burn leaves and you.
I have decided to run 4 solocure bulbs over 45 sq feet at 20 inches but wont start till seeds I planted get a little bit of size to them say 6 inches high. I can adjust my ballast to run little lower, at about 25 watts they go off for a T-8 @ 48 inches so about 100 watts of solocure UVB to start and slowly ramp it up till damage occurs then back off from there.
I did notice a light sheen on one leaf(why one who knows) it was sticky, must have been from plant , smelled very strong too like skunk.
I have not a full grow with these though, moflow have used them more.
They work for sure. I am not an experienced indoor gardener( but outside I was(not pot) so I know this is replicating the sun as the results are clear for me at least.
Looking forward to trying the UVA from HLG
Please take this with a grain of salt as till they run in my tent it will be hard to say how much UVB they actually got but it certainly works to increase smell of plants and production of sap or whatever it was I saw of leaf which was kinda like tree sap in look very shiny and sticky.
best thing I bought lately that's for sure, highly recommend.
If you find out uW/sq cm moflow is using let me know I'm curious.
Also check out the plants he grew with them included, I am no expert but they look very high THC judging by trichomes.
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daveybc
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@oldbeancounter "HLG" Remember HGL/Cammie is owned by someone who threatened to rat out a grower...HLG are the good guy's.
I talked to Dennis at Solacure for 20 min. He is certainly sales oriented but loves to talk which is nice from an owner. He believes in his product. Here is some bullet form comments I recall:
-The goal is to have at least 2 hrs solid. Did not mater what time of day, just when your were not in the garden. He mentioned a client had scheduled a wrong time and the UV was coming on at "lights off" to no ill effect.
-Pulsing 15 min increments would not benefit powder mildew and insects resistance as much, but would help with resin production.
-UV doesn't reflect or penetrate, rather hits its line of fire and resin will be produced in that area. He thought coming in on an angle would work good. The other side of the buds will be less frosty. The light has special glass and a built in reflector and you could tilt it.
-Use at the start of flower all the way. I don't recall a ramp up, that may be obvious though.
-If PM/insects is a concern use during veg.
- Use 4 foot tube as it is less intense. Can be used 18-24" above canopy, 2 foot Solacure tube more intense ( same intensity as the 4 foot but smaller package)
Solacure post some of their stuff on FB. Not active on IG.
Now I would love to buy both HLG UVA and some UVA/UVB from Solacure but I am in Canada. I am still recovering from my wounds of 4 QB96e and drivers. 1.37% exchange and "High Prices" shipping.
So for now I would get HLG UVA strip x 2, or Solacure Flower Power UVA/UVB x 2. I am thinking I would benefit more from Solacure.. Thoughts?
I talked to Dennis at Solacure for 20 min. He is certainly sales oriented but loves to talk which is nice from an owner. He believes in his product. Here is some bullet form comments I recall:
-The goal is to have at least 2 hrs solid. Did not mater what time of day, just when your were not in the garden. He mentioned a client had scheduled a wrong time and the UV was coming on at "lights off" to no ill effect.
-Pulsing 15 min increments would not benefit powder mildew and insects resistance as much, but would help with resin production.
-UV doesn't reflect or penetrate, rather hits its line of fire and resin will be produced in that area. He thought coming in on an angle would work good. The other side of the buds will be less frosty. The light has special glass and a built in reflector and you could tilt it.
-Use at the start of flower all the way. I don't recall a ramp up, that may be obvious though.
-If PM/insects is a concern use during veg.
- Use 4 foot tube as it is less intense. Can be used 18-24" above canopy, 2 foot Solacure tube more intense ( same intensity as the 4 foot but smaller package)
Solacure post some of their stuff on FB. Not active on IG.
Now I would love to buy both HLG UVA and some UVA/UVB from Solacure but I am in Canada. I am still recovering from my wounds of 4 QB96e and drivers. 1.37% exchange and "High Prices" shipping.
So for now I would get HLG UVA strip x 2, or Solacure Flower Power UVA/UVB x 2. I am thinking I would benefit more from Solacure.. Thoughts?
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Warpedpassage
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Is that the flower power floro from solacure? If so thats great you were able to run up to 4 hours a day. One of the plants i ran just an hour and half a day, and it was too much. The plant flower structure , color, terpene content , and yield changed. And not for the better. On that plant, i preferred it without u.vb. It was a bubba kush cross, with a bubba dominat pheno.
The other plant was a more extreme sat pheno of o haze x punto rojo. She was loving it, i was forced to chop her early at 16 weeks of flower. And she still wiped the floor with most stuff you could find on the market. In fact it was too strong and very muddy, disorienting kind of effect. Also about 20 inch above tops.
I only used the solacure once so have not felt compelled to share this info since i really want to get more runs with it before i say something with some confidence.
oldbeancounter
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@daveybc
My bad, meant HLG, it is fixed now thanks.
Good to know about the 4 foot vers the two foot bulbs.
Never spoke to Dennis on phone just via email.
Ordered four bulbs, he send 5 which suits me fine, all very well packed.
I have some literature he sent to will try and find it and scan and upload.
I think the bulbs help even in veg personally, just go easier on them that's all.
Maybe 1 hour twice a day, once you flip all 2 hours then work up too as much as plants will take.
Don't use facebook but will look.
these are bulbs I purchased, four bulbs 4 feet long, bought ballasts at homedepot in canada for $20.00 for a double bulb light.
https://www.solacure.com/superb.html
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