Damping off or just bad LST?

Blazeon_

Blazeon_

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Hey guys,

quick question - as seen on the pictures, the stem got extremely thin but it doesn't seem that it will break anytime soon. Is it some sort of a fungus or did I just break it while trying to perfom LST.

She's doing good otherwise, still growing, not showing any signs of dying. Just the stem is worrying me. What can I do about it?

It's Glue Gelato Auto from Barney's Farm by the way.

Thanks

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Logan Burke

Logan Burke

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Really all you can do is to support the stem, a popsickle stick pushed into the dirt directly beside the seedling and tieing the seedling to the popsickle stick would work well for your situation. The other thing you could do in regards to fungus or any other bad microbes that may be present would be to add beneficial microbes to the soil. If that is a problem here, then I'm not sure whether or not you'll be able to correct the issue in time, but I do think it's worth a try. If not, you'll have bennies on hand in the future. There are a million different products you can buy for bennies, I've only tried Great White so it's all I vouch for, but there are also many other good ones like Photosynthesis Plus
 
Merlin1147

Merlin1147

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I would start over. It certainly looks like pythium. But even it it’s not the damage is done it might survive but it will most likely be stunted.
 
Kushash

Kushash

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Blazeon_ said:
Hey guys,

quick question - as seen on the pictures, the stem got extremely thin but it doesn't seem that it will break anytime soon. Is it some sort of a fungus or did I just break it while trying to perfom LST.

She's doing good otherwise, still growing, not showing any signs of dying. Just the stem is worrying me. What can I do about it?

It's Glue Gelato Auto from Barney's Farm by the way.

Thanks

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You have another issue.
Not sure that plant will survive but if it does you have what looks like a bug problem.
Get a magnifying glass and look at the leaves.
See the black dots near the damaged leaf tissue.
That is most likely thrip poop.
Even if you loose the plant you will need to prepare for dealing with them on your next plant if you can't isolate your grow from them.
Thrips are easier to deal with than something like mites so don't let it discourage you, most growers have to deal with them at some point.
 
Blazeon_

Blazeon_

Member
Kushash said:
You have another issue.
Not sure that plant will survive but if it does you have what looks like a bug problem.
Get a magnifying glass and look at the leaves.
See the black dots near the damaged leaf tissue.
That is most likely thrip poop.
Even if you loose the plant you will need to prepare for dealing with them on your next plant if you can't isolate your grow from them.
Thrips are easier to deal with than something like mites so don't let it discourage you, most growers have to deal with them at some point.
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Thanks for your reply. I noticed some bugs crawling on the leaves and eggs under the leaves. I removed both. I always have to deal with these even though my plants are always isolated from every other plant in the garden. Last year I had a mite infestation on my Blue Dream but managed to save it and it tastes great. I'll monitor the situation and probably apply something against the bugs.
 
Blazeon_

Blazeon_

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Logan Burke said:
Really all you can do is to support the stem, a popsickle stick pushed into the dirt directly beside the seedling and tieing the seedling to the popsickle stick would work well for your situation. The other thing you could do in regards to fungus or any other bad microbes that may be present would be to add beneficial microbes to the soil. If that is a problem here, then I'm not sure whether or not you'll be able to correct the issue in time, but I do think it's worth a try. If not, you'll have bennies on hand in the future. There are a million different products you can buy for bennies, I've only tried Great White so it's all I vouch for, but there are also many other good ones like Photosynthesis Plus
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Thanks for your reply. Do you think that the plant is even able to get nutritions through the thin part? The stem is also getting woody, not sure if it's good or bad though. And would it theoretically be possible to cut the plant above the injury and plant it again? Would it re-root? It's just a wild thought but I saved my Blue Dream this way when wind broke it in half. Maybe I'm overthinking this too much and the best way is to let it do it's thing and buy more seeds to be sure.
 
Blazeon_

Blazeon_

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Owsley1975 said:
Yeah, at least until the stalk has some type of structural integrity and braches for Christ sake. Why LST something that has no branch development? It's beyond me...
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Well, I guess I got blinded by all the articles and videos about how the LST will maximize the yield and I screwed up majorly. Now I know what not to do next time.
 
Logan Burke

Logan Burke

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Blazeon_ said:
Thanks for your reply. Do you think that the plant is even able to get nutritions through the thin part? The stem is also getting woody, not sure if it's good or bad though. And would it theoretically be possible to cut the plant above the injury and plant it again? Would it re-root? It's just a wild thought but I saved my Blue Dream this way when wind broke it in half. Maybe I'm overthinking this too much and the best way is to let it do it's thing and buy more seeds to be sure.
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It might re-root...but your odds of the plant re-rooting before it dies is lower than the chance of your plant recovering as is. If you have some rooting gel/powder maybe you could try, but I'd just leave her be and put some beneficial microbes in the soil. I've heard of people using Blackstrap Mollasses to feed the microbes in the root zone, as well as purchasing products like Great White which is what I use. Seedlings can be really resilient, but they have to be given what they need and then left alone or they won't come out of shock. Either way, it's a learning experience and you know more now than before!
 
Merlin1147

Merlin1147

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You might try something I saw on the fill your pots thread let it go for a little while to get some growth then remove the lower leaves and side branches maybe one or two nodes above the damage then scrape the stem a little and dust with rooting powder and transplant burying deep. It should root out above the damage.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Blazeon_ said:
Hey guys,

quick question - as seen on the pictures, the stem got extremely thin but it doesn't seem that it will break anytime soon. Is it some sort of a fungus or did I just break it while trying to perfom LST.

She's doing good otherwise, still growing, not showing any signs of dying. Just the stem is worrying me. What can I do about it?

It's Glue Gelato Auto from Barney's Farm by the way.

Thanks

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Repot it and bury the entire stem up to it's lower set of leaves, like right now, and it will survive.
Roots will emerge from the stem above the damage and the added depth will support the plant.
Good luck
 
Blazeon_

Blazeon_

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Update: After repoting to a freshly bought medium with added beneficial microbes she still didn't make it :(

Total of 6 plants lost to damping off. I'm buying new soil and seeds and hopefully I'll have a good grow this year.

Thank you all for your advices, you guys are amazing!
 
InTheValley

InTheValley

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the stalk got to wet at the media level. germ seeds in paper towel, but once you put them in the media, water VERY LITTLE, like teaspoons full, Put cinnamon in your soil, pests be gone, AND it helps to prevent damping off because it fight mold and shit like that.

You could of just cloned it like a usually clone.
 
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