NFTG. Nectar For The Gods
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IrieRoots
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Do you mix your feeds up from the big jug of Herc? If so, Damn that's work!! I have big jugs of everything but refill the quartz as needed for mixing feeds up.
IrieRoots
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4-5 days to dry out? Thats too long for 5 weeks into VEG, your correct in wanting to foliar to supplement but getting the pots ready for another feed after 1.5 - 2 days would be better. How much feed water do you use and size of pots?
mix 1 gallon of herc. , 2.5 gallon of herc ... if I get the 5 gallon bucket of herc it will mix that as well .... I use a 1-1/4" PCV pipe and put it in the 1 gallons and 2.5 gallons and Strat to break up the gum on bottom and then slide the magnet thru it ....it takes about 10 min to mix a 1 gallon jug of herc but she is mixed .... the magnet is a 2" for mixing smaller jugs and the 3" is for the 5 gallons ....
let me get on the BK
feed chart says 5ml/qt foliar , in reality should be .5ml to 1ml per qt ... what these guys gotta understand that bk foliar is a throttle /gas peddle , the more you use , you gotta make sure the gas tank (soil) has the (fuel) nutrients to support it..... this is where "push it" comes into play ... this is where the feeding comes aggressive and get the slurries to 500+ ppm and start BK foliar , make sure your ph is in check .... if you try to bk foliar at a slurry of 300 ppm then you better go lite on BK foliar or none cause that gas tank is on E.....
BK foliar with strains .
with a sativa strain I be more incline to use BK as a foliar to keep her short cause we know that a sativa crazy stretches ..
with a indica I mite not use it at all cause the dont stretch as much so I will root drench when directed if I want that height ....
BK is a wonder and powerful tool !!! just got to make sure other things are correct before using .....
I missed that !!!! if left to dry your killing off microbes , and this is where your ph can get messed up ! as microbes die off they still have "food" in there belly and you feed brings in new microbes , and where the other microbes didn't die off start eating the dead microbes then release more food to the plant will cause the ph to swing low or high then you gotta battle that for awhile ......
IrieRoots
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damn I didn't realize the feed chart read per quart for BK, THATS INSANE!! I don't get anywhere near 5 ml per quart foliar by the time I start root drenching. I always assumed the 5 ml was into a gallon feed or foliar because the 6:1 ratio math works it perfectly down to 1.25 ml per quart. I havnt used the feed charts in quite some time, no wonder people keep cooking their plants? 5 ml per quart is crazy and I don't really think it's needed, just be ready to pump herc till your broke if you got a plant taking it like that!!
BunkerKing
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Yep i just looked at the bottle. Its says 1/4 teaspoon per 16oz.
The feeding chart does say 1tsp per qt.
Ah ok, i was likely hitting it with 4x the amount of recommended BK.
Would explain why i was scared to use the stuff lol.
and 90% of the problems on fb is what ? besides 5% being slurries 5% laziness .... built my self a bokashi bucket , only keeping greens in it and maybe some egg shells... gonna use it for my worm bin ....
loop718
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Thats 5 weeks from seed not 5 weeks into veg. I feed 1/4 gallon / 3gallon pot. These things are just eating every single thing i give them. I fed them 700 ppm full strength. My slurry is at 100ppm today. I just fed them mid veg. Full strength also added some slf-100. 800ppm 6.4 p.h. Lets see what they do!! Thinking about giving them a foliar of poisidenzime in a day or 2. Im on my 3rd feed was going to do a tea next watering. Or should i do another feed until the soil is holding some food?
loop718
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Im not letting the pot dry out. Im waiting until top inch or 2 is dry. When i take my slurry its about 2” down and fairly damp. Im also not actually 5 weeks into veg I'm 5 weeks from germination i should of cleared that up. Maybe i should feed less more often, im not having any run off maybe a few drops.My humidity and temp are perfect maybe im too scared of overwatering and not feeding enough? My soil is in good shape ph wise all range from 6.4-6.6. The plants are eating all the food i give them and dont leave anything in the soil. My slurries are all low 100ppms.
some times you gotta double up on your feed ...... im glade we read that wrong with letting the pots dry out ....
loop718
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no not letting them dry out it just takes 4-5 days for them to be ready for feeding again. I fed them 1/4 gallon this afternoon so ill see exactly how many days in between this time and update. This is there strongest feed cant wait to see the slurries!! This line is seriously fun. I have never seen numbers like this.
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just keep the tea just that ... tea ..... ez veg and slf......
loop718
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How much / gallon?
how much / gallon? I wash thinking about grabbing some big foot and fish sh!t.
2 tsp per gallon . I go by what is recommended .. big foot is good transplants (granules) sprinkle in hole of transplant , (concentrate) root drench use 3x plants life .... photo plus is a good one for tea , fish sh!t , fullon , maxi microbe ....ACCT is good to if you want to brew ....
BunkerKing
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Idk bubba. It sounds like the center of the pots are constantly wet. Do your roots live from 2inch and up? No?
Ok - Dont use that method.
Reduce the amount of water you are using. go more off weight of the pot. Not how dry the top 2 inches are. Roots need oxygen.
BunkerKing
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@loop718 - How are you watering these anyways?
Just dumping in water into the pot, let it filter down?
how do you actually go about taking the water and applying it to the soil.
You could have compacted the soil, causing even longer waits for drying out. If you have been over watering, chances are it is.
Just dumping in water into the pot, let it filter down?
how do you actually go about taking the water and applying it to the soil.
You could have compacted the soil, causing even longer waits for drying out. If you have been over watering, chances are it is.
loop718
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Im only giving about 1/4 gallon to 3 gallons of soil every 4-5 days i dont think im overwatering if anything im waiting too long to feed again is the problem i think. The problem im having is the plants are eating so fast and my pots are too wet to feed them when they need more food.Idk bubba. It sounds like the center of the pots are constantly wet. Do your roots live from 2inch and up? No?
Ok - Dont use that method.
Reduce the amount of water you are using. go more off weight of the pot. Not how dry the top 2 inches are. Roots need oxygen.
with young plants , it takes longer for soil to dry even doing a qt feed ... top 3 inches of the soil is where you got oxygen roots other roots need oxygen too but there digging down looking for that water source .. until he gets the envoriment dialed in and his plants dialed in he will figure out where he needs to be at ... now this mite cause an issue , if not in check mite cause ph and ppm swings .... but as we see his ppm are low so maybe going to long with out a feed ? or they are eating like crazy ? the rule of thumb is less volume more feed .. but until we get everything dialed in he playing it safe .... and soil should always be wet (moist) for the microbes to thrive ...