Archive Seed Bank

[thenotsoesoteric]

lol so other people starting to see Faceoff is nothing more than OG x Chem.

Ive never really researched any archives strains but Id say my slurri is more chem than og or punch.

 

[cohiba]

Looks nice!

Thanx bro! She's def a looker! I'm just hoping that she aint all show and no go

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

Ive never really researched any archives strains but Id say my slurri is more chem than og or punch.

It's from the faceoff which is in dosidos. Faceoff is so obvious its chem x og its not funny. Slurri is a poly and dosidos is no ibl so the buried genes are showing in form of all chemdog smells from sour to chem. Mor eont he sour side. Like some of the phenos from Rez's CD ibl based off hindu kush.

 

[smashcity]

It's from the faceoff which is in dosidos. Faceoff is so obvious its chem x og its not funny. Slurri is a poly and dosidos is no ibl so the buried genes are showing in form of all chemdog smells from sour to chem. Mor eont he sour side. Like some of the phenos from Rez's CD ibl based off hindu kush.

@40AmpstoFreedom I'm curious as to what criteria you are basing your deduction of the faceoff being a chem x og? Is it solely based on structure and smell? Im just curious as the Casper og phenos im growing dont smell like any of the chem I've grown, and I've grown the 4, the stardawg, and the chem d. Just curious as to the basis of your suspicions. Thanks

 

[Chronic811]

@40AmpstoFreedom I'm curious as to what criteria you are basing your deduction of the faceoff being a chem x og? Is it solely based on structure and smell? Im just curious as the Casper og phenos im growing dont smell like any of the chem I've grown, and I've grown the 4, the stardawg, and the chem d. Just curious as to the basis of your suspicions. Thanks

He’s just making shit up as he goes. If you look at the archive thread on icmag you’ll see his story changes a little each time he tells it.

At first he claimed face off was a chem/skunk pheno leaning hard to the skunk. Then he claims it’s just a chem/og hybrid and now he’s claiming it’s a chem/og/sour that leans toward the sour

 

[smashcity]

He’s just making shit up as he goes. If you look at the archive thread on icmag you’ll see his story changes a little each time he tells it.

At first he claimed face off was a chem/skunk pheno leaning hard to the skunk. Then he claims it’s just a chem/og hybrid and now he’s claiming it’s a chem/og/sour that leans toward the sour

Wow didn't know that. So tha docta pretty much back tracked on some of his claims? Interesting but im not surprised as I've caught very popular breeders doing the same. I mean breeders that would get me crucified if I were to name them.. lol. But i stay away from the drama and love the plant as well as growing it. I just hope his mother plants are what he claims them to be.. at the end of the day if it's fire I guess that's what matters but it would be great to have the truth with the fire. Thanks for the info. Going to search icmag for the thread. Do you know if its still there?

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

Wow didn't know that. So tha docta pretty much back tracked on some of his claims? Interesting but im not surprised as I've caught very popular breeders doing the same. I mean breeders that would get me crucified if I were to name them.. lol. But i stay away from the drama and love the plant as well as growing it. I just hope his mother plants are what he claims them to be.. at the end of the day if it's fire I guess that's what matters but it would be great to have the truth with the fire. Thanks for the info. Going to search icmag for the thread. Do you know if its still there?

He was talking about the rollitup member 40 amps, not Archive.

 

[smashcity]

He was talking about the rollitup member 40 amps, not Archive.

Oh. My bad. Awkward. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[Chronic811]

Wow didn't know that. So tha docta pretty much back tracked on some of his claims? Interesting but im not surprised as I've caught very popular breeders doing the same. I mean breeders that would get me crucified if I were to name them.. lol. But i stay away from the drama and love the plant as well as growing it. I just hope his mother plants are what he claims them to be.. at the end of the day if it's fire I guess that's what matters but it would be great to have the truth with the fire. Thanks for the info. Going to search icmag for the thread. Do you know if its still there?

Yeah I was talking about 40amps. And yes the thread is still there. It’s under cannabis flower photos

 

[Houstini]

I will say that making an f1 of the same cross as a competitor using your gear is different than fem breeding. Crossing known phenoes of quality reversed females will likely create better results than most phenoes popping up in the f1 polyhybrid

 

[klx]

Back when he announced he was doing the Slurricane on IG he did say what cuts he used. From memory he said he used the same Dosi male he has used in other crosses and the true purple punch cut, whatever that means.

 

[kaka420]

I will say that making an f1 of the same cross as a competitor using your gear is different than fem breeding. Crossing known phenoes of quality reversed females will likely create better results than most phenoes popping up in the f1 polyhybrid

lol quality female is a quality female.
being reversed does not mean likely better.
its all about selection.

 

[quiescent]

When it all comes down to it, most American breeding is an incestuous shit storm from a scientific genetic perspective. It could be shared genes showing up giving him that point of view.

Even if it is rez's chem dd or 4sd crossed to a longer flowering, lemony og it's not an ill conceived strain to be looking for studs with plans of crossing to American genetics.

I think most people that have grown the gear in this thread would say they were satisfied with their end results. The recent pictures of Casper have me excited to dig through my own packs.

 

[Lightgreen2k]

He’s just making shit up as he goes. If you look at the archive thread on icmag you’ll see his story changes a little each time he tells it.

At first he claimed face off was a chem/skunk pheno leaning hard to the skunk. Then he claims it’s just a chem/og hybrid and now he’s claiming it’s a chem/og/sour that leans toward the sour

I was saying the same thing where did this dude get his information from too. Speaking to archive none of this is true.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

He’s just making shit up as he goes. If you look at the archive thread on icmag you’ll see his story changes a little each time he tells it.

At first he claimed face off was a chem/skunk pheno leaning hard to the skunk. Then he claims it’s just a chem/og hybrid and now he’s claiming it’s a chem/og/sour that leans toward the sour

Chem is a skunk genius...Just like cheese. I am basing my opinions on the completely obvious relations to anyone who has done chem work and also the guys previous work relations and the fact that the breeder doesn't even know what he has supossedly yet there are sour chem smells all over faceoff.

I was saying the same thing where did this dude get his information from too. Speaking to archive none of this is true.

Speaking to archive? You mean the guy that claims to not know what he has because he got it from bag seed? Or it was just better to make it a mystery for marketing?

Mean while someone not too many posts ago states his dosidos cross smells like greenpoints stardawg (chemdog) x cookies LOL? Yeah totally making things up.


Sorry when your og crosses smell nothing like the cuts this is clearly a cross and not OG.

If I am making stuff up how do we have two threads on two websites where not a single person claims to have straight gas lemon pledge terps from any of the 575757257 crosses put out?

Even with the best OG (sfv) we still have no one who can say they got straight OG terps from the face off cross. Only people who have never had the real deal like to hold on to hope this is, when it is nothing more than a different parental selection of chem x OG like greenpoints, topdawgs, connoisseurs, karmas, rez, moonshinemans (raredankness doctor old partner) the list goes on.

If I am making things up why is there still no one who can claim they got grape smells from grape ape x dosidos?

You can claim all day I am making things up. But when the best OG is crossed to a publicly stated unknown variety comes out nothing like OG, other than some structure, it is not pure OG. At minimum a cross and it seems obvious to me it is chem.

Enjoy the product it is not a bad cross and dosidos has some absolute fire, but face off is not anywhere close to pure OG. It is a good contribution to the gene pool none the less imo and further work may indeed render more OG terps.

 

[Space_Lord]

Chem is a skunk genius...Just like cheese. I am basing my opinions on the completely obvious relations to anyone who has done chem work and also the guys previous work relations and the fact that the breeder doesn't even know what he has supossedly yet there are sour chem smells all over faceoff.



Speaking to archive? You mean the guy that claims to not know what he has because he got it from bag seed? Or it was just better to make it a mystery for marketing?

Mean while someone not too many posts ago states his dosidos cross smells like greenpoints stardawg (chemdog) x cookies LOL? Yeah totally making things up.


Sorry when your og crosses smell nothing like the cuts this is clearly a cross and not OG.

If I am making stuff up how do we have two threads on two websites where not a single person claims to have straight gas lemon pledge terps from any of the 575757257 crosses put out?

Even with the best OG (sfv) we still have no one who can say they got straight OG terps from the face off cross. Only people who have never had the real deal like to hold on to hope this is, when it is nothing more than a different parental selection of chem x OG like greenpoints, topdawgs, connoisseurs, karmas, rez, moonshinemans (raredankness doctor old partner) the list goes on.

If I am making things up why is there still no one who can claim they got grape smells from grape ape x dosidos?

You can claim all day I am making things up. But when the best OG is crossed to a publicly stated unknown variety comes out nothing like OG, other than some structure, it is not pure OG. At minimum a cross and it seems obvious to me it is chem.

Enjoy the product it is not a bad cross and dosidos has some absolute fire, but face off is not anywhere close to pure OG. It is a good contribution to the gene pool none the less imo and further work may indeed render more OG terps.

If you don’t mind me asking who in your opinion does breed a good OG?

 

[Chronic811]

Chem is a skunk

Statements like this only prove that your just out here spreading assumptions like there facts

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

Statements like this only prove that your just out here spreading assumptions like there facts

Concerning my opinions speculation, they are clearly opinions/speculation, we don't know what face off is until genetic testing is done because the breeder supposedly doesn't even know, which I cannot fathom given all his experience with every elite cut and breeding side by side with raredankness who also used chem x og. I guarantee it will be chem x OG based on my experience of growing all the listed breeders OG chem crosses which ogk definitely is not and you find nothing of the sort in the s1's.

Note that you have absolutely nothing to reply to refute my comments and experiences with this breeders genes. Let me know when you find that pure lemon pinesol gas face off cross pheno...you would think it would be 2 or 3 in every pack at the very least of face off was pure OG, yet 4 packs of SFV x face off yielded 0 phenos like ogk other than looks which you can find somewhat in Chemdog but never the terps of OGK because highly inbred skunk genes dominate the fuck out of everything it touches.

Anyways like I said enjoy I am off to go pop my chem 91 SKUNK x SFV beans to search for some none sour phenos...

 

[Chronic811]

I have no reason to “ refute “ your comments. I’m not looking for pinesol terps. I’m not looking for grape terps in dosido crosses. I don’t give a shit what is in face off. It makes no difference to me if some random poster says there archive gear smells like greenpoint gear. I’m just here to prove that you are full of shit and you did that for me

 

[kona gold]

Concerning my opinions speculation, they are clearly opinions/speculation, we don't know what face off is until genetic testing is done because the breeder supposedly doesn't even know, which I cannot fathom given all his experience with every elite cut and breeding side by side with raredankness who also used chem x og. I guarantee it will be chem x OG based on my experience of growing all the listed breeders OG chem crosses which ogk definitely is not and you find nothing of the sort in the s1's.

Note that you have absolutely nothing to reply to refute my comments and experiences with this breeders genes. Let me know when you find that pure lemon pinesol gas face off cross pheno...you would think it would be 2 or 3 in every pack at the very least of face off was pure OG, yet 4 packs of SFV x face off yielded 0 phenos like ogk other than looks which you can find somewhat in Chemdog but never the terps of OGK because highly inbred skunk genes dominate the fuck out of everything it touches.

Anyways like I said enjoy I am off to go pop my chem 91 SKUNK x SFV beans to search for some none sour phenos...

I can see where you are coming from somewhat.
I grew out the first release of Face Off.
I had two females that I kept. Both were very viney and all Kush as far as structure. Not like the Chem structure. Lots of stretch Kush buds.
Now pinesol hard hard kush. I didn't have that pure earthy pinesol lemony kush insanity 100%.
But it was pretty close. With maybe a touch of sour. So I can see that side.
Side note.
It is a pretty amazing strain. And bagged up stinks like very few can!