Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Smokexbreak

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Alright @3rd Monkey this will be two posts to upload all the pics. First will be the bottles and then ingredients in each bottle so you can see ratios. Second post will be the pics and the numbers from the ppm test. Added 1ML of each to a gallon and took ppm after each one.
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Smokexbreak

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Here’s my numbers per each for 1ML per gallon.

Grow- 20ppm
Micro-100ppm
Bloom- 60ppm
MagNifiCal- 60ppm
Astro Flower-90ppm
Velo kelp- 20ppm
Nature’s Candy- 20ppm

My last soup
Micro-700ppm
Bloom-420ppm
MagNifiCal-420ppm
Astro Flower-650ppm
Velo kelp-140ppm
Nature’s candy-140ppm
Total- 2470ppm

Haha after typing this I realized my ppm is wayyyyy to fucking high lmao. But I still wanna hear your opinion.

My last soup I realized it was two high cut it with RO water and brought it to 1200ppm.
But the other night I filled at Full strength not even thinking about it. So I bet I’m burning the fuck out of my plants.

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Smokexbreak

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Holy bajeezus lol!

That has to be so fucking exhausting to mix a batch lol.
lol it’s fairly easy but ya bottle after bottle is a bitch. Haha. But I really could get away without the nature’s candy and velo kelp. Then it’s like 4 bottles at most being used. Grow gets cut out during Flower and then during veg there’s no bloom or astroflower so it’s not that bad.
 

Moabfighter

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Very friendly idea here. Why not try an in one veg nute, and a all in one flower nute.

Botanicare has that. Veg blend pro. Flower blend pro or whtever. Bloom pro maybe. They say add cal mag if using RO Water.

Just an idea man for simplicity’s sake. Maybe try that and hydroguard and mammoth p? Could eliminate some of the learning curve and help you utilize other stuff in later better once you try a “simple setup”

Just making conversation dude. Not at all getting to “tell” you what to do or anything as I honestly failed pretty bad at my DWC so...
 

Smokexbreak

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Very friendly idea here. Why not try an in one veg nute, and a all in one flower nute.

Botanicare has that. Veg blend pro. Flower blend pro or whtever. Bloom pro maybe. They say add cal mag if using RO Water.

Just an idea man for simplicity’s sake. Maybe try that and hydroguard and mammoth p? Could eliminate some of the learning curve and help you utilize other stuff in later better once you try a “simple setup”

Just making conversation dude. Not at all getting to “tell” you what to do or anything as I honestly failed pretty bad at my DWC so...
You can use minimal bottles on this. This is the entire lineup which I already know I’m burning the fuck outta my plants because I’m at full strength. After seeing my ppms. I probably just need to back the soup off to 50% what I’m using and I’ll Be good. But I’m almost through these bottles and they been fantastic it’s user error not the bottles. They’re super stable PH perfect. I ph my water add my nutes and my ph never changes which tells me I’m likely not going to have much swing in my hempy reservoirs because of the bicarbonates. I’ll see what @3rd Monkey says but I’m willing to bet it’s my solution strength.

For simplicity’s sake

Veg

Grow
Micro
MagNifiCal (calmag)

Flower

Bloom
Micro
MagNifiCal


Astro Flower, Velo kelp, Nature’s candy
Are all extras and not necessary you can add them in if you choose. I bought the tester pack and it all came in the box.

Botanicaire was bought by Scott’s miracle grow which is in bed with Monsanto. Can’t support anything from botanicaire.
 

3rd Monkey

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Right out of the gate, super high K ratio, unbalanced Ca and Mg levels.

That K is your killer.

Grow at 150
Micro at 200
Bloom at 300
Calmag at 150
Astro flower gone
Keep kelp and candy the same.

Try that for a week, expecting blowback from what's already happening.

Worst case scenario, it'll get a little hungry, but it should straighten out.

I hate those ratios to be honest. Nothing needs that much K. They don't give you a P boost. They leave out half the calcium and most of the magnesium so you have to buy the other shit... I digress.
 

Smokexbreak

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Right out of the gate, super high K ratio, unbalanced Ca and Mg levels.

That K is your killer.

Grow at 150
Micro at 200
Bloom at 300
Calmag at 150
Astro flower gone
Keep kelp and candy the same.

Try that for a few week, expecting blowback from what's already happening.

Worst case scenario, it'll get a little hungry, but it should straighten out.

I hate those ratios to be honest. Nothing needs that much K. They don't give you a P boost. They leave out half the calcium and most of the magnesium so you have to buy the other shit... I digress.
The grow shouldn’t be in this at all according to their charts week 3 of Flower

You think I should add it in? I haven’t been using it for Flower I just had pics of it to save to my phone.
 

Smokexbreak

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That’s a lot of bottles . Thought my cabinet is cramped
Ya I’m gonna finish these bottles off and then move on from the hempys to cocoDTW/DWC. That megacrop for the coco works really well plus it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to burn through. I’ll Be running a few cocoDTW hooked to my halo rings while I get this DWC down and then I’m converting entirely to DWC.
 

3rd Monkey

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The grow shouldn’t be in this at all according to their charts week 3 of Flower

You think I should add it in? I haven’t been using it for Flower I just had pics of it to save to my phone.
I'm going by ratios and the nutrients that are in those bottles. I don't like their ratios and I don't care what their charts say lol. They have way too much shit in there, missing half the shit in one bottle, adding it to another.

That shit seems like a soil nute, not a hydro nute. For soil it would probably be fine, but your hempys are perlite, right?
 

Smokexbreak

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I'm going by ratios and the nutrients that are in those bottles. I don't like their ratios and I don't care what their charts say lol. They have way too much shit in there, missing half the shit in one bottle, adding it to another.

That shit seems like a soil nute, not a hydro nute. For soil it would probably be fine, but your hempys are perlite, right?
Yep.
 

3rd Monkey

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I dunno what you want to do but I wouldn't use them as a hydro nute. You can try adjusting the levels. You need less K and more P.

In early flower, shoot for a 2/3/3 ratio. In later flower, about 2 weeks before finish, drop that to a 1/3/3 ratio. You're looking for about 15%-20% of your final ppm to be Ca and Mg, 10% Ca and 5% Mg with a 5% window to either.

Best I could do was a 1-2-5.
 

Smokexbreak

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I dunno what you want to do but I wouldn't use them as a hydro nute. You can try adjusting the levels. You need less K and more P.

In early flower, shoot for a 2/3/3 ratio. In later flower, about 2 weeks before finish, drop that to a 1/3/3 ratio. You're looking for about 15%-20% of your final ppm to be Ca and Mg, 10% Ca and 5% Mg with a 5% window to either.

Best I could do was a 1-2-5.
Maybe I just switch to the GH?
 

3rd Monkey

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Maybe I just switch to the GH?
That's up to you. You don't need a whole lot of shit. Plants need the same nutrients, no matter how many bottles you use. GH trio is a 7-6-11 blend in even stride, but you can manipulate it very easily because they have a full dose of Ca in the Micro and almost a full dose of Mg in the Bloom, with Grow picking up the slack.

So the only extra nute you MAY need is calmag. You can bump your P and K very easily in flower, so there's no need for stupid ass bloom "boosters". You can easily scale down Grow and Micro and replace it with calmag to dodge K and reduce N. So many things you can do with SIMPLE.
 
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