Hermied week 5, make hash or cure it?

Hash or smoke?

  • Hash

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • Smoke

    Votes: 3 60.0%
  • Total voters
    5
Hadez411

Hadez411

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Hi all,

My plants suffered a significant light leak and hermied. Three I pulled with nanners one I pulled with just barely the beginnings of a seed here and there.

Should I cure and smoke these puppies or will they be too weak? I could buy a bubble hash bag and do em up or something.

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Opinions, pls n thx.
 
Logan Burke

Logan Burke

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Did you already harvest them, or are they still growing?...If not, I'd let them keep on going unless they start throwing tons of nanners and seeds. I recently had a grow throw nanners, some with pollen and some without pollen, and was just very vigilant and picked them everytime they popped up, then spritzed some water in the vacinity as water actually deactivates pollen and renders it harmless. Ended up not having but one or two seeds, and was very happy I didn't chop it early. So it really just depends on the severity that your plant has hermied.
 
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Hadez411

Hadez411

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I chopped them all and have clones ready to replace them. They were stunting and pistils were going brown. At week 5 with clones at the ready, I'd rather lose 5 weeks on a new batch than gamble 8-10 weeks by letting them finish.

I'm looking for guesses on whether it'll be smoke able or if I should concentrate it.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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I wouldn't bother trying to cure and smoke that. Personally I would make qwiso with it, not bother trying to make bubble has either. I think you would be very dissapointed with what you got form trying to make bubble with it.

I don't see any obvious male parts, which makes me think you really jumped the gun on cutting them. New growers get super nervous about males and hermies and pollen. It all takes more time to happen then most people realize because most people have never flowered out a male plant. If you pay attention to your plants its very easy to prevent males or hermies from pollenating your whole room.

Those plants look like they needed another 5-6 weeks still.
 
Hadez411

Hadez411

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Thundercat said:
I wouldn't bother trying to cure and smoke that. Personally I would make qwiso with it, not bother trying to make bubble has either. I think you would be very dissapointed with what you got form trying to make bubble with it.

I don't see any obvious male parts, which makes me think you really jumped the gun on cutting them. New growers get super nervous about males and hermies and pollen. It all takes more time to happen then most people realize because most people have never flowered out a male plant. If you pay attention to your plants its very easy to prevent males or hermies from pollenating your whole room.

Those plants look like they needed another 5-6 weeks still.
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Ty for the hash vote.

You're jumping the gun. I removed one plant a week ago, clear nanners and a couple solid seeds and a few small immature seed clusters, wasn't getting any more buddy just leggy. Removed the one beside him the following day, same nanners and nuts. Had two left for another week, removed one yesterday who had minimal nanners but I was trying to preserve the last one that had pure white pistils and no nanners. The last plant started to rapidly brown the pistils and there were seed sacks forming all over, however immature. Guessing the last one got pollinated and the first three nannered. I'm working with mystery bag seed and big light leaks, this should be no surprise.

They were all very resinous when harvested, won't be much in terms of yield but it's mostly seed free and crystalline so I'm guessing there's some potency there.

You're wrong if you think I jumped the gun. I've smoked tons of weed from LPs and dealers alike that had a seed or two. The potency was lacking.
 
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Thundercat

Thundercat

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The potancy wasn't lacking because it had seeds. It was probably lacking because it was picked to early because they wanted to turn crops faster and didn't care about the actual quality. I've watched over and over for years.

Seeds do not reduce potancy.

I would much rather have properly finished and ripened buds with seeds in them, then harvest plants 5-6 weeks early.

Those plants weren't done growing, they would have still bulked up way more, they were only half way through their life cycle.

FYI I'm not trying to be a jerk, just trying to help you learn from your mistake.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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I would have pulled the nanners and let her run, its normal for calyxs to die off in waves and judging by the looks, its only the first wave of calyxs which is very early.

If your a newish grower, you should get at least a little bit comfortable in pulling a stress induced nanner here & there, as you could have fixed the light leak and continued on without further nanners.
 
Hadez411

Hadez411

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I think I'd rather buy a grow tent and lose 4 weeks than invest more time in growing schwag. The drop off in growth rate was significant. If I was in week 6, I'd hear your woes, but it just finished week 4 and was super sativa like, so I'm guessing 5 more weeks at least.
I've smoked seedy weed lots, no bueno, not worth my time when I'm limited to 4 plants an my goal is super nice smoking organic weed.


TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION:

would it make alright hash or concentrates? I really don't mind just tossing it out and losing 4 weeks of my time and some cheap diy soil.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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Hadez411 said:
I think I'd rather buy a grow tent and lose 4 weeks than invest more time in growing schwag. The drop off in growth rate was significant. If I was in week 6, I'd hear your woes, but it just finished week 4 and was super sativa like, so I'm guessing 5 more weeks at least.
I've smoked seedy weed lots, no bueno, not worth my time when I'm limited to 4 plants an my goal is super nice smoking organic weed.


TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION:

would it make alright hash or concentrates? I really don't mind just tossing it out and losing 4 weeks of my time and some cheap diy soil.
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Didn't know you were shooting for grade A/B, thats a wild ride for most of us who don't like to read or aren't running clones.

Growth has slowed significantly because stretch, foliage growth & root growth almost stops mid flower which is normal, they start to focus on calyxs & trichs then swell up after that.

If its for personal use then sure, why not experiment with concentrates.
 
Hadez411

Hadez411

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SPLFreak808 said:
Didn't know you were shooting for grade A/B, thats a wild ride for most of us who don't like to read or aren't running clones.

Growth has slowed significantly because stretch, foliage growth & root growth almost stops mid flower which is normal, they start to focus on calyxs & trichs then swell up after that.

If its for personal use then sure, why not experiment with concentrates.
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My observations were that they stretched their initial stretch, stretched a little more after that but slowly, started to filled out and stopped growing or even coming back from LST, they became resinous and swelled more, then pistils started going brown all over the first herm and the buds stopped forming densely and started to become loose. No more thickening for a full week, just more browning of the pistils. Also, the sugar leaves coming out stopped being covered in crystal and started just coming out like plain leaves. It happened in series so I cut one to save the rest, then the next, then the last two cuz I didn't wanna bother trying to flower just 1 or 2 hermed plants when I could replace the whole room.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
outside of any problems with the plant, hash is just concentrated trichomes, if they aren't ripe, pressing them into a block isn't going to make them ripe...it's just going to make a block of immature trichomes with little to no thc
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They will have THC, but there isn't going to be much volume of resin in the trichomes. The terpenes won't be well developed.

To the OP I already answered your question. I think you should do a qwiso run on them. It will pull any resin that is there and give you something to dab or vape. I think you would be very unimpressed with a bubble hash yield.
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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Hadez411 said:
TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION:

would it make alright hash or concentrates? I really don't mind just tossing it out and losing 4 weeks of my time and some cheap diy soil.
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Greetings Hadez,
I understand the desire to chop early and move on. I did that with my first crop at this new location. Plants were further along...but losing leaves...wasn't sure if I had a fungus or WTF...so I cut them and started over. Discovered my problem on autopsy...and now am almost done with my second run. Looking much better...

I vote for a coconut oil/lecithen extract. Cook with it...put it in capsules or whatever. Fairly easy to do. Cannabudder is a close second.
JD
 
Hadez411

Hadez411

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Thundercat said:
They will have THC, but there isn't going to be much volume of resin in the trichomes. The terpenes won't be well developed.

To the OP I already answered your question. I think you should do a qwiso run on them. It will pull any resin that is there and give you something to dab or vape. I think you would be very unimpressed with a bubble hash yield.
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I'm not a fan of smoking potential leftover iso and I hear what everyone's saying about the small amount of bubble hash vs the time to do it.
I do have a 20 ton bottle jack, a welder and enough metal to constrain the jack... Just need to find a solid heat plate. Perhaps it will make a useable, if not great, rosin. Not looking for anything great here, just something I don't have to smoke a ton of, like weak buds.
 
Logan Burke

Logan Burke

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Hadez411 said:
I think I'd rather buy a grow tent and lose 4 weeks than invest more time in growing schwag. The drop off in growth rate was significant. If I was in week 6, I'd hear your woes, but it just finished week 4 and was super sativa like, so I'm guessing 5 more weeks at least.
I've smoked seedy weed lots, no bueno, not worth my time when I'm limited to 4 plants an my goal is super nice smoking organic weed.


TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION:

would it make alright hash or concentrates? I really don't mind just tossing it out and losing 4 weeks of my time and some cheap diy soil.
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It's going to make weak hash because the trichomes did not have time to mature and fill up with those goodie psychoactive substances. As ThunderCat said, seeds and nanners are irrelevant to potency. I'd still make a concentrate from it, just don't be dissapointed when it isn't up to usual standards is all.
 
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