NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

bubba73

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Sounds good Irie! Thank you! Here are my other results, got 3 with low PH I converted to 700 scale on my PPMs fyi...
- cherry fog 6.15 PH 420 PPM
- new England sour diesel 5.95 PH 500 PPM
- sour raspberry kush 6.15 PH 500 PPM
- mystery auto 6.65 PH 420 PPM
- Hubba Bubba skunk 6.48 PH 320 PPM
- cherry Pebbles (my problem child) 6.6 PH 400 PPM
How should I proceed with the 3 low PH girls?
Thanks for the info!

these autos or photo ?
 

Daddygrows420

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HERC & Oly to 7.0 ph and just saturate the media...no run off. If you have any Hades down you can drop your starting water even lower than the Herc will do so you can get more Oly up in the mix. You want to use a little less volume so the Herc and Oly park in the middle of the root zone and the pots will dry out faster so you can follow up with a 6.8 - 7.0 EZ tea with 30 ml Herc watered in the same way. Should be able to feed regular in the mid 6's after this but stick to the basic 4 bottles plus Herc in the 600 - 700 ppm range to start building back their metabolism.
Thanks Irie!
 

Daddygrows420

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ohhhhhhhh .... shit thats right !!!!! I gave ya the auto schedule .....lol.... ill let Irie adjust his comments , and we will get this straighten out ....
Lol.....guess that's why they call it DOPE! :bigjoint:

Thanks a million for that schedule brother! It's working pretty damn good!

I will wait to see if irie changes anything before doing anything.
 

IrieRoots

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These are all auto's bubba.
I was approaching your numbers as photo period plants, my bad.....the AUTO optimum slurry range is 200-400 ppms so they are all a little high so there is plenty of nutrition in the rootzone, just need to get your ph up on a few and tie up some of those higher ppms. And once corrected, start your feeds back up lower than that 600-700 ppm I suggested. The low ph ones are still good to roll with the flush I suggested, and the rest I would just do a regular Herc reset flush at 6.4. Then do the EZ tea. Once you can start feeds again just use Bubbas schedule for where you are, but maybe 1/2 strength & ph'd upper 6's for low slurry and 6.4 for the rest.
 

IrieRoots

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I'm not going to suggest BK, even on the ones that aren't too bad. It can really screw things up when trying to learn nectar. Its up to you whether you decide to go with it, but it's way easier to manage the more you learn how to run the slurry numbers. If your ph is good, soil is in range and you know they are eating the calcium up, then its safe to start BK.....6:1 ratio or lighter.
 

BunkerKing

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These are all auto's bubba.
Nice. Everyone talks crap about ruds. They are great, i really think they will over take the home grow market at some point. As insane as that sounds. Its just nobody locally supplies seeds yet, no demand. No education.

You getting them online then?

(and mmmm cal trics. pp is coming along nicely)
 

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Daddygrows420

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Nice. Everyone talks crap about ruds. They are great, i really think they will over take the home grow market at some point. As insane as that sounds. Its just nobody locally supplies seeds yet, no demand. No education.

You getting them online then?

(and mmmm cal trics. pp is coming along nicely)
Man they have came a long way! Google wicked pissah seeds. That is what I'm running. Peace out!
 

Daddygrows420

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I was approaching your numbers as photo period plants, my bad.....the AUTO optimum slurry range is 200-400 ppms so they are all a little high so there is plenty of nutrition in the rootzone, just need to get your ph up on a few and tie up some of those higher ppms. And once corrected, start your feeds back up lower than that 600-700 ppm I suggested. The low ph ones are still good to roll with the flush I suggested, and the rest I would just do a regular Herc reset flush at 6.4. Then do the EZ tea. Once you can start feeds again just use Bubbas schedule for where you are, but maybe 1/2 strength & ph'd upper 6's for low slurry and 6.4 for the rest.
Thanks Irie! I will start making mention in my post about these being autos to avoid any confusion.

I will run with that advise today when I get home. You guys are awesome! Thanks everyone! Peace out!
 

loop718

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Is there any foliar nutes you shouldnt mix together other then bk? Is it ok to mix posidenzime with full power? Ever since i have been foliating full power my plants been shooting for the stars.
 

IrieRoots

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Is there any foliar nutes you shouldnt mix together other then bk? Is it ok to mix posidenzime with full power? Ever since i have been foliating full power my plants been shooting for the stars.
Poseidon is made in a vat of Ful-power so no need, but 5 - 10 ml wouldn't hurt anything. Just alternate foliars or do 2 in a day. Kraken & Ful-power is great, Pegasus too. I like low dilution foliars more frequent, the kitchen sink recipes twice a week are too much when root feeding like we do with nectar. Aphrodites & Ful-power is my day after a tea drench foliar to boost root exudates, feeding all the microbes I drenched!!
 

loop718

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Poseidon is made in a vat of Ful-power so no need, but 5 - 10 ml wouldn't hurt anything. Just alternate foliars or do 2 in a day. Kraken & Ful-power is great, Pegasus too. I like low dilution foliars more frequent, the kitchen sink recipes twice a week are too much when root feeding like we do with nectar. Aphrodites & Ful-power is my day after a tea drench foliar to boost root exudates, feeding all the microbes I drenched!!
Ok ill hit em with posidenzime today and some em-1. I didnt know posiden had ful power in it. a simple look in the bible could of told me that lol i need to take more notes. Becoming too reliable on irie and bubba ha. They answer so fast tho.
 
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loop718

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in the bible it says to foliar older growth ph6.2. But all the recipes say 6.5-7.0. And that reminds me also my feed chart says veg is 6.1-6.2 And everything I've seen on you tube and read through the forums say 6.3-6.4.
 

IrieRoots

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Ok ill hit em with posidenzime today and some em-1. I didnt know posiden had ful power in it. a simple look in the bible could of told me that lol i need to take more notes. Becoming too reliable on irie and bubba ha. They answer so fast tho.
Every Damn bottle has Ful-power in it, even BK. They literally put the different organic meals into straight Ful-power and other things to assist the cold extraction fermentation.
 

IrieRoots

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in the bible it says to foliar older growth ph6.2. But all the recipes say 6.5-7.0. And that reminds me also my feed chart says veg is 6.1-6.2 And everything I've seen on you tube and read through the forums say 6.3-6.4.
Early veg and seedling/clone are good at 6.1 - 6.3, but once you start adding more bottles at full strength then 6.4 is the sweet spot. It's a calcium thing, once Herc joins the party we need the mid 6's for calcium uptake. Early veg and seedlings aren't really getting Herc yet. As for foliars ph, 6.5 - 7.0 is perfectly fine but I like 6.0 - 6.3 because the leaf stoma and the waxy leaf cuticle react to more acidic solutions. Rain fall is like 5.5 ph so the plant has adapted to this over 1,000's of years. Higher ph foliars may combat PM but I've never had it.
 

loop718

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Early veg and seedling/clone are good at 6.1 - 6.3, but once you start adding more bottles at full strength then 6.4 is the sweet spot. It's a calcium thing, once Herc joins the party we need the mid 6's for calcium uptake. Early veg and seedlings aren't really getting Herc yet. As for foliars ph, 6.5 - 7.0 is perfectly fine but I like 6.0 - 6.3 because the leaf stoma and the waxy leaf cuticle react to more acidic solutions. Rain fall is like 5.5 ph so the plant has adapted to this over 1,000's of years. Higher ph foliars may combat PM but I've never had it.
You cease to let me down friend. All valuable info that answers everything. Enjoy ur weekend dude!
 
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