First outdoor grow

TreeFiddy350

TreeFiddy350

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time for the infamous question.... How much dry weight do you think I will get aside from the best answer “boutta pound” lol
I have 5 plants in 3 gals.
1 plant in a 7gal.
They were started back in April.
If I let them finish growing outdoors, approx how much do you think I should get?
I know inside you can somewhat tell by the wattage, but this is outside, so now I’m in unfamiliar territory lol
They would be approx 16 week old veg by the time August/ September gets here, which I’ve read are the flowering months
 

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Voodu

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It all depends on how good your growing season is. Good temperatures, lots of sun, no bugs or animals ect.... The big problem I always contend with is a wet and cold fall, I always have some loss' due to mold. If I had 6 plants and no problems and in 7gal pots in my climate I would expect about a half pound after dry and cure. Anything less I would be pretty disappointed.
 
TreeFiddy350

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Voodu said:
It all depends on how good your growing season is. Good temperatures, lots of sun, no bugs or animals ect.... The big problem I always contend with is a wet and cold fall, I always have some loss' due to mold. If I had 6 plants and no problems and in 7gal pots in my climate I would expect about a half pound after dry and cure. Anything less I would be pretty disappointed.
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Damn. You think I should transplant them to 7 gals? From the 3 gal?
And yeah man I’m gonna kinda just let it do it’s thing outside. I’ll spray for bugs and whatnot and keep animals away the best I can.
It’s it normal to have less yield in an outdoor grow vs indoor?
Last time I did 4 plants until 750w in 5 gal pots. Got about half pound
 
Voodu

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It all depends on climate. There is 0 natural marijuana growing outdoors in my area. If I want big healthy plants I have to tend to them constantly because many weather factors are against me. It's the challenge of any gardener I guess. Growing the most exotic fruits and enjoying both the challenge and the eventual success (and trying to learn from the failures).
I digress, typically indoor set ups with good quality lights and hydroponic gear will give very good yields if done properly. They simulate the very best conditions that the plant requires. However, if I lived in a place like California, I could grow a giant gorilla bush because the climate is so perfect for growing.
Outdoor growing is a challenge and your results will vary based upon many different factors. That is one reason why no one can give you a very good estimate. Grow outdoors for a couple seasons and you should get your own internal gauge for what you can do.
 
TreeFiddy350

TreeFiddy350

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Voodu said:
It all depends on climate. There is 0 natural marijuana growing outdoors in my area. If I want big healthy plants I have to tend to them constantly because many weather factors are against me. It's the challenge of any gardener I guess. Growing the most exotic fruits and enjoying both the challenge and the eventual success (and trying to learn from the failures).
I digress, typically indoor set ups with good quality lights and hydroponic gear will give very good yields if done properly. They simulate the very best conditions that the plant requires. However, if I lived in a place like California, I could grow a giant gorilla bush because the climate is so perfect for growing.
Outdoor growing is a challenge and your results will vary based upon many different factors. That is one reason why no one can give you a very good estimate. Grow outdoors for a couple seasons and you should get your own internal gauge for what you can do.
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You make a very good point. You’re able to control the environment much better indoor vs out
 
curt caine

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TreeFiddy350 said:
Damn. You think I should transplant them to 7 gals? From the 3 gal?
And yeah man I’m gonna kinda just let it do it’s thing outside. I’ll spray for bugs and whatnot and keep animals away the best I can.
It’s it normal to have less yield in an outdoor grow vs indoor?
Last time I did 4 plants until 750w in 5 gal pots. Got about half pound
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Put them straight in the ground unleash thoses bitches!!!
 
MadMel

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TreeFiddy350 said:
Damn. You think I should transplant them to 7 gals? From the 3 gal?
And yeah man I’m gonna kinda just let it do it’s thing outside. I’ll spray for bugs and whatnot and keep animals away the best I can.
It’s it normal to have less yield in an outdoor grow vs indoor?
Last time I did 4 plants until 750w in 5 gal pots. Got about half pound
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I have grown outside only for 2 seasons prior to this one. One thing that I have found, is that the size/quality of your plants is determined by the space that your roots have.

I don't use the 5 gallon containers anymore. Just too small to grow a big bush in. I have started using 30 gallon pots and grow bags.

So yeah, transplant them into bigger containers and increase their size and potential ASAP, and watch out for transplant shock.

These are my plants; Red Diesel,Peyote Critical, and Triple Cheese, all 3 from Barney's farm. he smallest plant is Lemon OG Candy.by Philosopher seeds. Indoors you can get the standard 650g/ M / sq. Outdoors, it's max potential yield is 2Kg / plant. A HUGE difference …
 

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CanadianJim

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If yield is your primary concern, straight in the ground is top, large pots outdoors are usually second, hydro is usually third (depending on the skill of the grower), then soil indoors. Soil usually tastes better, and with a skilled grower will beat hydro for potency. It's just like veggies. You can grow more hot peppers in hydro, but they'll be tastier and hotter in soil.
 
TreeFiddy350

TreeFiddy350

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I would really like to plant them in the ground in my backyard, but I don’t think the soil for that is good enough. I’m not an expert tho
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Hell I don't even have soil, I have an inch of dirt over clay! If you add mycorrhizae her roots will power through damn near anything, and find nutrients where you didn't think there were any. And you can always top dress.
 
TreeFiddy350

TreeFiddy350

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If I have
CanadianJim said:
Hell I don't even have soil, I have an inch of dirt over clay! If you add mycorrhizae her roots will power through damn near anything, and find nutrients where you didn't think there were any. And you can always top dress.
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my fiber optic lines around that area, do you think the roots could mess that up?
It’s about 5 feet away
 
T-dub

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I am running my first OD grow this year as well, but from what I have read, I would go with 20 gallon air pots min. I am doing 2 in 30 gallon airpots and one straight in ground with 30 gallon hole with added soil. All the seem to be loving it.
 

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MadMel

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CanadianJim said:
If yield is your primary concern, straight in the ground is top, large pots outdoors are usually second, hydro is usually third (depending on the skill of the grower), then soil indoors. Soil usually tastes better, and with a skilled grower will beat hydro for potency. It's just like veggies. You can grow more hot peppers in hydro, but they'll be tastier and hotter in soil.
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Gotta agree with CJ. I think that ideally you can get the best results from "super soil". It's "organic gardening " really.

If you have the right mixture, your plants will be more resistant to pests and disease as well. Then all you have to do is water, trim/train, and harvest. This time I used my own concoction of "Super soil", and I will never use anything else. I am thoroughly sold on it.

The biggest problem I have is with collecting enough rain water to keep my microorganisms going strong, otherwise I have to let the chlorine evaporate from my tap water before I can use it.

Just google "super soil", and get bigger pots, or use landscape fabric for the outside "wall" and you can make any size that you want.
 
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ScaryHarry45

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In the ground all day baby! If you want to use some better soil maybe consider just digging a hole and filling the hole instead of using a smart pot. Once they get established they don't require much water or work haha.
 
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