4 day bud dryer for $40.

voltaire64

Active Member
What are the chances of crystals hitting the bottom of the tote? I was thinking of cutting a piece of glass and putting it on the bottom of the tote to catch anything that would fall, only problem is that the fan would be too strong and would suck everything out before it hit the bottom.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
What are the chances of crystals hitting the bottom of the tote? I was thinking of cutting a piece of glass and putting it on the bottom of the tote to catch anything that would fall, only problem is that the fan would be too strong and would suck everything out before it hit the bottom.
Yes, a few trichomes do come off the buds, not really a whole lot, though they do build up over time and make a nice smoke if you collect them. It wasn't designed with the intent of catching them, but the dryer arrangement I'm using, intake fan down low, exhaust up high, prevents trichs from being blown out.
 

potlike

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Al, I am just asking here because I am not sure of this, but chlorophyll generally doesn't respond to 315nm does it? Last I heard PAR was 400nm-700nm in wavelengths, and while growing-THC can be induced to excrete by higher levels of UVB(~315nm); what do you think would be the result drying with UVB lights?



-potlike
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
while growing-THC can be induced to excrete by higher levels of UVB(~315nm);
I'd like to see some decent botanical science substantiating that theory, thanks. There's lots of reasons that plants make sticky substances and neurotoxins, but it would be novel if any plant did that as a defence against or response to exposure to UV.

Plants evolve to suit certain prevailing conditions; if you found a plant that did anything in response to exposure to UV, that plant would almost certainly be indigenous to equatorial latitudes, where the sun's rays are most perpendicular and travel through the shortest path through the atmosphere, filtering less short wavelength visible & UV light. Equatorial or subtropical plants are quite often perennials as they often can grow continuously through the winter or dry season.

Cannabis is indigenous to temperate, four season latitudes. This is evidenced by its means of procreation, being an annual which makes seeds to get through cold and perhaps freezing winters. At higher latitudes, solar angles are not as high in the sky and sunlight has to pass through a longer path through the atmosphere. This is most pronounced in autumn, when the sunlight must pass through a very long path through the atmosphere, in which dust and water vapour filter or diffuse quite a lot of blue & shorter wavelength light before it reaches the ground. Autumn sunlight at temperate latitudes thus appears red-yellow due to the reduced amount of blue light. Also accounts for why the red-yellow spectrum of HPS works so well for flowering cannabis.

what do you think would be the result drying with UVB lights?
THC is unstable and breaks down into isomers CBD & CBN with exposure to light and high temperatures.

Reactivity Profile
1-TRANS-DELTA-9-TETRAHYDROCANNABINOLis very unstable to light and high temperatures. It should be protected from air during all handling due to its extreme instability. [NTP, 1992]. Flammable and/or toxic gases are generated by the combination of alcohols with alkali metals, nitrides, and strong reducing agents. They react with oxoacids and carboxylic acids to form esters plus water. Oxidizing agents convert them to aldehydes or ketones. Alcohols exhibit both weak acid and weak base behavior. They may initiate the polymerization of isocyanates and epoxides. (NOAA REACTIVITY, 2007)
Without information to the contrary, given I've got some data saying light degrades THC, I'd expect that UVB light would cause THC to break down as does visible light.
 

potlike

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Al I respect your knowledge probably more than I do anyone else on this forum, however I have seen and smoked the results of UVB treated marijuana and disagree with you here.

Keep in mind that I have a background in economics and statistics so empirical data appeals to my logical mind as well, but when one sees and smokes the results it is hard to ignore. I do not know how to measure THC content level or I would try to do this test myself.

This is probably the closest we have to a half way descent study on the matter, however logically speaking humans have defense against the sun. Yes, at first people may sun burn with too much exposure to the sun, but people do develop sun tans after some exposure which does act as natural protection against solar radiation. Why can't plants have a natural defense mechanism as well?

I am pretty much sold on that higher levels of THC can be excreted given the proper amount of UVB lights to fill out an area.

At this point, I am just unsure if drying buds with it will lead to a positive or a negative outcome-because it may no longer have access to that chemical process. Given what I know about the process and being reminded through your last statement I could see wherein drying with UVB light or any light could be detrimental to its' THC content.

-potlike
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Al I respect your knowledge probably more than I do anyone else on this forum, however I have seen and smoked the results of UVB treated marijuana and disagree with you here.
Have you smoked some grown in the same batch which were UVB exposed and some which was not?

Keep in mind that I have a background in economics and statistics so empirical data appeals to my logical mind as well, but when one sees and smokes the results it is hard to ignore. I do not know how to measure THC content level or I would try to do this test myself.
Failing having any double-blind, peer-reviewed data, of course I was postulating based upon what we DO know for sure. You need a gas chromatograph or a mass spectrometer to do such measurements, so you won't be doing any THC assays in your basement.

This is probably the closest we have to a half way descent study on the matter
Yes, that is a well written bit that references far and wide. It's a very good bit, thanks very much for that. I've saved that to the local drive for future reference, good stuff. However, the writer (reasonably) does not make any broad or certain conclusions, rather sets up a framework for further investigation, which is useful in and of itself but unfortunately doesn't set anything in stone for testing. He notes some very curious inconsistencies (i.e. seeds from "Mexican" which were later grown in the US displayed cannabinoid content that was not present in the source buds) and there's a few holes in the methodology, which are somewhat unavoidable due to the black market nature of cannabis.

Why can't plants have a natural defense mechanism as well?
I'm quite sure that's a possibility. However, the writer of the bit you reference also suggests that the reasons the plant may be making resin & THC may have to do with defences against browsing animals and insects as much as UV exposure.

I am pretty much sold on that higher levels of THC can be excreted given the proper amount of UVB lights to fill out an area.
I'm sorry to hear that. I don't think there's anything conclusive enough to be convincing in the paper you've cited. The writer does make some reasoned conclusions but doesn't really nail anything down. it's a good start, though.

At this point, I am just unsure if drying buds with it will lead to a positive or a negative outcome-because it may no longer have access to that chemical process.
I think you're on the right track with that line of thought.

Given what I know about the process and being reminded through your last statement I could see wherein drying with UVB light or any light could be detrimental to its' THC content.
I think your notion that (if anything) UVB may have some effect on the plant while growing may have some merit, though in what degree, I'm not sure. Once harvested and bioligical processes are halted, I don't think you can do anything that's going to increase potency, rather only hasten the breakdown of d9-THC into non-psychoactive isomers.

Thanks again very much for the link to that paper. As said, while I don't think it makes any replicatable conclusions that I would put into practise, it certainly is a good investigation of the scientific possibilities.
 

panhead

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Any update / success with new designs pan?
Lotsa success,the dryer allways worked great but albfuct got me worried about the green light,i took a roof top vent much like what another member in this thread suggested & covered the green light with it,its about the same size as a coffee can,i dont think the total darkness within the dryer helped any in making the weed any more potent than before but i leave it on anyways.
 

lilmafia513

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Lotsa success,the dryer allways worked great but albfuct got me worried about the green light,i took a roof top vent much like what another member in this thread suggested & covered the green light with it,its about the same size as a coffee can,i dont think the total darkness within the dryer helped any in making the weed any more potent than before but i leave it on anyways.
any pics of the finished product? I'm really thinking about building this, but still unsure about the look of the buds, if they are flattened at all?
 

panhead

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Why would the buds be flattened ? they dry a full week faster than the average drying takes,if anything they come out just as nice looking as the hanging till dry method.

If your worried about bag appeal dont worry,the buds look as good as any high times photo shoot buds & smell just as good as the best weed ya ever smelled :bigjoint:
 

lilmafia513

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Why would the buds be flattened ? they dry a full week faster than the average drying takes,if anything they come out just as nice looking as the hanging till dry method.

If your worried about bag appeal dont worry,the buds look as good as any high times photo shoot buds & smell just as good as the best weed ya ever smelled :bigjoint:
Hey brother, I've read alot of your stuff today.....I trust ya'!
You are crazy creative bro'!!!
Ever tried out the PPP (pure power plant)? Got some on the way.
 

.:SEXISTONER:.

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just my thought but the elements from any house hold hot water tanks DONOT need to be submerged in water to work they come in several diffrent sizes and are easy to hook up you can also controll the temp.
 

panhead

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just my thought but the elements from any house hold hot water tanks DONOT need to be submerged in water to work they come in several diffrent sizes and are easy to hook up you can also controll the temp.
True,try one out & let us know how it works,im having excellent success with a covered light bulb on a dimmer switch,there are no wrong ideas as long as it works,the heating element is another solution to regulated heat fo sho.
 

DaGambler

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i only made page 6... and i usually like to read a whole thread before popping off some dumb-arse remark... butta....

I'm confused, i thought people created elaborate setups to -prevent- their bud from drying in 5 days or less. I can dry my bud in 30 seconds. But i'd think a slow cure would taste a lot better.
 
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