NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

[loop718]

another tip ... don't use kraken till after you do LST .....

Lol thanks bro. Thats why i post what im about to do cuz you guys always got a tip that saves me a headache. Ive already craxked a few stems without kraken. Duct tape has saved the day a bunch.

 

[IrieRoots]

Thanks brotha man. So what do you run through veg i run the main 4, kraken and persephone. I decided i dont have time to take clones of 14 plants and keep care of them for 2 months. If i find something super special ill leave some shoots to reveg.

Taking care of all those unknown clones would be a bitch, I been there b4, you can take a few cuts of the best ones midway through transition!!
In seedling/cloneling stage I run Gaia Kraken fulpower,
then early veg I run Medusa Gaia Kraken Zues
Early/mid veg add in Athenas & Demeters
Mid/late veg start bringing in the Herc
**with Persephone, I use it in Nectar microbe bump teas with Pegasus and whatever else I might think they need
**with AE, I use it after tea days to keep microbes stimulated
Late veg/Transition Medusa Gaia Athena Demeters Kraken Poseidon Herc Zues
Trans/early bloom I start upping Phos, sometimes will do a couple feeds with Morpheous added
Week 3 - 4 bloom main 6 bottles, ramp up!! plus Kraken & Persephone
Week 5 - 6 bloom same, but cut Kraken, and add Tritons, plus Persephone
Week 7 bloom ripening. 30 Herc 30 Tritons 30 AE for a couple feeds, then just HERC & AE
Week 8 to finish plain
**this is a general path and baseline, I still have to adapt to the grow, slurries, it helps to know what the different bottles can do to benefit or correct something along the way**

 

[bubba73]

Taking care of all those unknown clones would be a bitch, I been there b4, you can take a few cuts of the best ones midway through transition!!
In seedling/cloneling stage I run Gaia Kraken fulpower,
then early veg I run Medusa Gaia Kraken Zues
Early/mid veg add in Athenas & Demeters
Mid/late veg start bringing in the Herc
**with Persephone, I use it in Nectar microbe bump teas with Pegasus and whatever else I might think they need
**with AE, I use it after tea days to keep microbes stimulated
Late veg/Transition Medusa Gaia Athena Demeters Kraken Poseidon Herc Zues
Trans/early bloom I start upping Phos, sometimes will do a couple feeds with Morpheous added
Week 3 - 4 bloom main 6 bottles, ramp up!! plus Kraken & Persephone
Week 5 - 6 bloom same, but cut Kraken, and add Tritons, plus Persephone
Week 7 bloom ripening. 30 Herc 30 Tritons 30 AE for a couple feeds, then just HERC & AE
Week 8 to finish plain
**this is a general path and baseline, I still have to adapt to the grow, slurries, it helps to know what the different bottles can do to benefit or correct something along the way**

nice feed regiment .....

 

[loop718]

Taking care of all those unknown clones would be a bitch, I been there b4, you can take a few cuts of the best ones midway through transition!!
In seedling/cloneling stage I run Gaia Kraken fulpower,
then early veg I run Medusa Gaia Kraken Zues
Early/mid veg add in Athenas & Demeters
Mid/late veg start bringing in the Herc
**with Persephone, I use it in Nectar microbe bump teas with Pegasus and whatever else I might think they need
**with AE, I use it after tea days to keep microbes stimulated
Late veg/Transition Medusa Gaia Athena Demeters Kraken Poseidon Herc Zues
Trans/early bloom I start upping Phos, sometimes will do a couple feeds with Morpheous added
Week 3 - 4 bloom main 6 bottles, ramp up!! plus Kraken & Persephone
Week 5 - 6 bloom same, but cut Kraken, and add Tritons, plus Persephone
Week 7 bloom ripening. 30 Herc 30 Tritons 30 AE for a couple feeds, then just HERC & AE
Week 8 to finish plain
**this is a general path and baseline, I still have to adapt to the grow, slurries, it helps to know what the different bottles can do to benefit or correct something along the way**

Couple questions irie.... your seedling/clone is that a foliar or root drench? With your microbe bump teas how many days after do you feed the microbes AE? Your week 7 thats 30ml?and do you still do teas after week 7?

 

[BunkerKing]

sampled a pea size nug at the bottom of the PP - wow... i havnt been this stoned in awhile. it was just covered in oil. So good, insanely smooth... and not even cured yet lol.

Just starting to get the nice Pop when you crack a branch. almost done drying.
Cant wait for round two.

 

[loop718]

Slurries are 250ppm and 6.6ph. Plants look good ready for 2nd feed after transplant. I have only given 1 tea in 7 weeks of veg. Ppm still on the lower side id like to be around 500 for flip so i can hit em with some bk and pound the herc these things deff some heavy feeders. Should i do a full feed and toss a tbsp of ez tea in with it?

 

[IrieRoots]

Slurries are 250ppm and 6.6ph. Plants look good ready for 2nd feed after transplant. I have only given 1 tea in 7 weeks of veg. Ppm still on the lower side id like to be around 500 for flip so i can hit em with some bk and pound the herc these things deff some heavy feeders. Should i do a full feed and toss a tbsp of ez tea in with it?

Can't hurt.......just keep tracking numbers.....and keep alternating in a heavy feed.

 

[loop718]

Can't hurt.......just keep tracking numbers.....and keep alternating in a heavy feed.

How heavy tho? Im feeding pretty heavy for the last 4 weeks. Over 1200ppms every feed every other day. Im feeding 10 ml of MM, Gaia, DD, Persephone. 15ml AA zeus juice 5ml herc is 1tbsp. New soil slurry was 280 6.3ph i trans into that and fed 1280ppm. Its down to 250. Im goin to tea with my feed tomorrow take slurry and if its back in 200 ill double everything. Im almost out of my sample pack in 6 weeks of feeding. I just ordered a stiricane. I have 13, 7 gal pots im going to need the help mixing 10 gallons of food every other day

 

[IrieRoots]

Couple questions irie.... your seedling/clone is that a foliar or root drench? With your microbe bump teas how many days after do you feed the microbes AE? Your week 7 thats 30ml?and do you still do teas after week 7?

Seedling feed is a drench, designed to build roots.
I will foliar the AE the very next day after a tea, and if beyond foliars in bloom I will just throw it in the next feed.
Yep, 30 ml per gallon
And no teas after week 7.......but with the first ripening flush its good to throw in 30 ml EM1 too, then a week later on the first plain water day!!
** like I mentioned, its a good baseline schedule that is very adaptable to anyone's setup.

 

[loop718]

Seedling feed is a drench, designed to build roots.
I will foliar the AE the very next day after a tea, and if beyond foliars in bloom I will just throw it in the next feed.
Yep, 30 ml per gallon
And no teas after week 7.......but with the first ripening flush its good to throw in 30 ml EM1 too, then a week later on the first plain water day!!
** like I mentioned, its a good baseline schedule that is very adaptable to anyone's setup.

Yes!! I like it I'm pretty close to that now. It has more detail and explanation then the feed schedule.

 

[bubba73]

Seedling feed is a drench, designed to build roots.
I will foliar the AE the very next day after a tea, and if beyond foliars in bloom I will just throw it in the next feed.
Yep, 30 ml per gallon
And no teas after week 7.......but with the first ripening flush its good to throw in 30 ml EM1 too, then a week later on the first plain water day!!
** like I mentioned, its a good baseline schedule that is very adaptable to anyone's setup.

ill jump on the tea part ... this will depend on your slurry ppm , lets say at week 7 its 450 ppm then you want to give it its last tea to get everything eat up , when your at a "ripen flush " I try to get as close to 300 ppm or lower when finish ... yes ! im insane like that , I will slurry before harvest ..... ill slurry of start amend , and when im ready to use ill slurry ....

 

[bubba73]

How heavy tho? Im feeding pretty heavy for the last 4 weeks. Over 1200ppms every feed every other day. Im feeding 10 ml of MM, Gaia, DD, Persephone. 15ml AA zeus juice 5ml herc is 1tbsp. New soil slurry was 280 6.3ph i trans into that and fed 1280ppm. Its down to 250. Im goin to tea with my feed tomorrow take slurry and if its back in 200 ill double everything. Im almost out of my sample pack in 6 weeks of feeding. I just ordered a stiricane. I have 13, 7 gal pots im going to need the help mixing 10 gallons of food every other day

lol....welcome to my world of mixing .... 1280 ppm is not to heavy , I feed at 1800 ppm .... you keep getting low slurry numbers cause your plant out grew your pot ..... now its time to stock up on bottles ..... ill hook you up with a 20% off code from OCG ... free shipping over $150.00

 

[bubba73]

Slurries are 250ppm and 6.6ph. Plants look good ready for 2nd feed after transplant. I have only given 1 tea in 7 weeks of veg. Ppm still on the lower side id like to be around 500 for flip so i can hit em with some bk and pound the herc these things deff some heavy feeders. Should i do a full feed and toss a tbsp of ez tea in with it?

you can do a mix in of tea with feed ..... just mark it down as a feed/tea ....nothing set in stone as when to feed , tea or herc ..... but to go that long with out an tea in veg you just gotta start mixing it in .... or do like in the old days no tea at all ..... at one time nectar didn't use any tea ......

 

[bubba73]

sampled a pea size nug at the bottom of the PP - wow... i havnt been this stoned in awhile. it was just covered in oil. So good, insanely smooth... and not even cured yet lol.

Just starting to get the nice Pop when you crack a branch. almost done drying.
Cant wait for round two.

do that with general hydroponic nutrients or other nutrients and you won't get the same taste ... wait ! you mite if you do a long straight water flush .....

 

[loop718]

lol....welcome to my world of mixing .... 1280 ppm is not to heavy , I feed at 1800 ppm .... you keep getting low slurry numbers cause your plant out grew your pot ..... now its time to stock up on bottles ..... ill hook you up with a 20% off code from OCG ... free shipping over $150.00

Damn it i just spent like $250 there lol and i already have a gallon of everything. I just bought some earth shine and bokashi 1 shot for my soil recharge.... After transplant and a feed my slurry is in the 200 when should i expect numbers to rise.

 

[bubba73]

Damn it i just spent like $250 there lol and i already have a gallon of everything. I just bought some earth shine and bokashi 1 shot for my soil recharge.... After transplant and a feed my slurry is in the 200 when should i expect numbers to rise.

look at bottom at my signature there the code , I will always have it updated when OCG updates ..... bokashi is good to top dress when you got a lot of bone meal as with amended soil ....check into EWC thats good as a top dress or mix in with amended soil....

 

[IrieRoots]

ill jump on the tea part ... this will depend on your slurry ppm , lets say at week 7 its 450 ppm then you want to give it its last tea to get everything eat up , when your at a "ripen flush " I try to get as close to 300 ppm or lower when finish ... yes ! im insane like that , I will slurry before harvest ..... ill slurry of start amend , and when im ready to use ill slurry ....

Spot on, its what I use the EM1 for at the end.....really aggressive & efficient microbes.....plus they say the faculative anaerobes bring out terps!! So does any microbial really.

 

[IrieRoots]

Damn it i just spent like $250 there lol and i already have a gallon of everything. I just bought some earth shine and bokashi 1 shot for my soil recharge.... After transplant and a feed my slurry is in the 200 when should i expect numbers to rise.

With repot and when you flip, your numbers should come up some.....the abrupt hormonal change from switching to flower usually balances out as her nutrient needs change, you will still be ramping up feeds obviously but you should have a better opportunity to build the numbers up some once you flip, just the 12 hour days will help your soil ppms if you think about it......your cutting 6 or more hours of active top growth from their schedule!! Plus a Rootbound plant really just wants to flower, so flip them bitches. You can also remove some lowers and small inner sites that just aren't going to produce much, this will lower the nutrient demand and focus all the feed into the keeper bud sites!!

 

[loop718]

Yo if anybody here needs some info go back to page 31 and just start reading and screenshooting stuff. Irie roots you are a mad scientist. The amount of gold your dropping post after post. Hats off to you dude. Its a honor to pick your brain and receive the help you and bubba drop on a daily basis. Im blown away. I seriously have a folder on my phone called the irie files and its a folder of highly detailed indepth screenshots from all yours and bubbas posts from January to now. I refer to it more then the bible.

 

[loop718]

You guys got me really wanting to TD. I already have earthshine and bokashi i ordered some be-1 and ill grab some ewc. Any suggestions for type of ewc? Im going to probably wait for my next run to dive into TopD and brewing teas. Im having trouble keeping ppms in range as it is now so ill wait and see how flip goes and keeping soil in range. Then dig a little deeper into the hole lol.