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IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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loop718 said:
Yup. Every feed after that do you bk? If slurries allow it?
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It depends on strain.....BK foliar is hard on plants......I think if you have a healthy plant with nice structure and they are gobbling the nectar then BK really isn't needed as a foliar and can be used through weeks 3 - 6 to help all that Herc up!! You can get the same short stacking plant with Poseidon and Kraken alternating foliars!! If you do decide to spray BK, just start with 1.25 ml in a quart and spray right after you feed!! This will be a safe start and you will see how they react and more importantly what it does to slurry ppms. If you wait a day after feeding to foliar then the BK is going to rip through your reserves you just built back up.
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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IrieRoots said:
It depends on strain.....BK foliar is hard on plants......I think if you have a healthy plant with nice structure and they are gobbling the nectar then BK really isn't needed as a foliar and can be used through weeks 3 - 6 to help all that Herc up!! You can get the same short stacking plant with Poseidon and Kraken alternating foliars!! If you do decide to spray BK, just start with 1.25 ml in a quart and spray right after you feed!! This will be a safe start and you will see how they react and more importantly what it does to slurry ppms. If you wait a day after feeding to foliar then the BK is going to rip through your reserves you just built back up.
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Watching how the BK works the soil ppms will tell you if you can spray after every feed......you may find its every other so you can build up the calcium again. If they do take well to the 1.25 ml BK then stay the course, but up your Herc and other calcium sources to stay ahead. Then after two foliars at 1.25 ml, you gotta keep upping the calcium, then you can go to 2.5 ml. By this time she is getting used to this calcium performance, so keep upping the calcium, now your at 5 ml BK. So by my count that 4 BK foliars and you might get a 5th because by now there should be puffy flowers!! And be prepared to keep pouring on the Herc, this is where you can adhere to the 6:1 ratio, once they are stuck to eating this way you can't stop so be ready!!
 
loop718

loop718

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IrieRoots said:
Watching how the BK works the soil ppms will tell you if you can spray after every feed......you may find its every other so you can build up the calcium again. If they do take well to the 1.25 ml BK then stay the course, but up your Herc and other calcium sources to stay ahead. Then after two foliars at 1.25 ml, you gotta keep upping the calcium, then you can go to 2.5 ml. By this time she is getting used to this calcium performance, so keep upping the calcium, now your at 5 ml BK. So by my count that 4 BK foliars and you might get a 5th because by now there should be puffy flowers!! And be prepared to keep pouring on the Herc, this is where you can adhere to the 6:1 ratio, once they are stuck to eating this way you can't stop so be ready!!
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I have been giving 1tbsp / gal of herc for the last few weeks because i was trying to get soil in range so i have been hitting everything double and DD HH tripled. Some of the pots are crusting over. Going to scratch them and TopD. Also i was going to foliar dr growth a few days before i bk because i read theres a lot of calcium that the leaves will hold and the bk isn't so hard on your soil reserve.
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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loop718 said:
I have been giving 1tbsp / gal of herc for the last few weeks because i was trying to get soil in range so i have been hitting everything double and DD HH tripled. Some of the pots are crusting over. Going to scratch them and TopD. Also i was going to foliar dr growth a few days before i bk because i read theres a lot of calcium that the leaves will hold and the bk isn't so hard on your soil reserve.
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You can use trigger the day before BK but calcium really can't be absorbed by the leaf stomata so I think its a crock of shit......its more loading up amino acids that are needed for the cell building of forced growth from BK. As long as soil is loaded with calcium and ppms are in upper range your good to go. It does not take much to get a response from BK.......that 1.25 ml will have your plants praying hard!!
 
loop718

loop718

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IrieRoots said:
You can use trigger the day before BK but calcium really can't be absorbed by the leaf stomata so I think its a crock of shit......its more loading up amino acids that are needed for the cell building of forced growth from BK. As long as soil is loaded with calcium and ppms are in upper range your good to go. It does not take much to get a response from BK.......that 1.25 ml will have your plants praying hard!!
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Lol good to know. Cant always listen to everything the salesman is trying say. Ya gna go real light at it. Have i been wasting the herc feeding that much this early? Ive already ran through the sample pack. Be nice when i have a stable of mothers so i dont have to waste nutes on tons of males.
 
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bubba73

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like Erie said ... 7.1 ph is not bad , 7.3 or higher is an issue ... you do not want to try and get the ph down in range to quickly , mite take a week or 2.... try to take a slurry at another spot and see what the ph is , as long as your root drench ph is in the range thats what the roots get per say , but its always idea to be in range .....just make sure you didn't hit a hot spot..... if you been tracking your slurries this will tell you if its a false positive ...
 
loop718

loop718

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bubba73 said:
like Erie said ... 7.1 ph is not bad , 7.3 or higher is an issue ... you do not want to try and get the ph down in range to quickly , mite take a week or 2.... try to take a slurry at another spot and see what the ph is , as long as your root drench ph is in the range thats what the roots get per say , but its always idea to be in range .....just make sure you didn't hit a hot spot..... if you been tracking your slurries this will tell you if its a false positive ...
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I tested all 13 plants all of them were between 370 and 390 6.6 ph and a couple were 7.1 and there in the side i fed 6.6ph. Ill hit the 7.1s again tomorrow before i feed and double check. Plants look amazing tho. A couple of them are 2’ wide there growing side ways not up lol. Just gotta keep bending... flip is coming very soon.
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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loop718 said:
You guys think this is light stress? Leaves are twisting over on them selves. Slurry 370 6.8 ph
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Looks like it, or high temps with low humidity.......this heat wave ain't no joke!! Any fluctuations? Did you lower light or turn it up brighter? There is many variables that can trigger this stress. Pots going to dry comes to mind.

They have that Pegasus or trigger green look to them, have you foliared either of these recently? Slurry in good shape but wasn't that the same numbers as yesterday?
 
loop718

loop718

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IrieRoots said:
Looks like it, or high temps with low humidity.......this heat wave ain't no joke!! Any fluctuations? Did you lower light or turn it up brighter? There is many variables that can trigger this stress. Pots going to dry comes to mind.

They have that Pegasus or trigger green look to them, have you foliared either of these recently? Slurry in good shape but wasn't that the same numbers as yesterday?
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Ya they got pegasus 2 days ago. Humidity is 60% i turned light dial up just a hair hardly any at all last night when lights went off. I havent fed yet today just about to. Ya basically same slurry from opposite side of pot as yesterday. Tops of pot are just starting to dry.
 
loop718

loop718

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I think the lights are just too strong for veg. That tiny twist of the knob twisted my leaves lol. I have light about 40” away and 2/3 all the way turned up. Par meter could tell but i dont have $300 to blow lol.
 
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zzeroo

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I'm smoking on some citradic sunset and let me tell you out 6 fems seeds i got 4 keepers and the high is soaring ..NO ceiling ..grown with NFTG the Necterfam way
 
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LOKness

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3rd run with nftg. haven't slurried at all, the ladies are healthy. feeding base 6 every 3 days + photo plus and SLF100 weekly. have 1 hulk angry ibl (removed 2 males) and 4 puta breath bagseeds from my first grow. that grow had problems with wpm, from what I've read the seeds from that should be more resistant to wpm. puta breath bagseeds are starting to grease up at 3 weeks
 

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loop718

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How long after you mix up a feed can it wait till be fed? I own a business and i just got half way through mixing up a bucket and got called in to do something real quick it should take me a half hour i havent ph yet.... should i scrap this nectar goodness or will it be alright to feed when i get back in 20-30.
 
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