Leaves look like they are wilting

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Cornercab36

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Growing in a mix of happy frog and ocean forest soil
Ph between 6.4-6.9
They are under 6 led bulbs kepts at 6 inches away with a fan blowing over them
I water sparingly so I dont see it being over watering
It has been progressing for 3-4 days on one seedling and over night showed up on another. Any help would be greatly appreciated
 

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Beantown_greentown

Beantown_greentown

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That’s nutrient burn brother. Basically the happy frog is too hot. Starting from seed go for something like promix myco hp or cc. Promix is soiless mix that has just enough food to get me through to about the one month point. You generally don’t want to feed a seed plant from jump. It hinders it and fries em . If I were you just ph some water to 5.8 to 6.2 and flush em. Not sure if happy frog will clear out but it’s that or transplant em to something not so hot. Hot being too much nutes in the soil. If your looking to go an easier way than mixing nutes. Remember you can always put a small layer of happy frog on the bottom then grow the plant and when the roots reach the bottom they get that boost they need.

Most common mistakes.
1 over watering.
2 underwatering
3 over fertilizing
4 underfertalizing.
Ph is super important. It locks out a plants ability to uptake certain nutes at certain ph levels.
Ph is how acidic or alkaline the soil is . 5.8 to 6.2 is perfect because a lot of nutes will ride the ph upwards over time by going a little lower you rise right into the best possible spot.
 
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Cornercab36

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Beantown_greentown said:
That’s nutrient burn brother. Basically the happy frog is too hot. Starting from seed go for something like promix myco hp or cc. Promix is soiless mix that has just enough food to get me through to about the one month point. You generally don’t want to feed a seed plant from jump. It hinders it and fries em . If I were you just ph some water to 5.8 to 6.2 and flush em. Not sure if happy frog will clear out but it’s that or transplant em to something not so hot. Hot being too much nutes in the soil. If your looking to go an easier way than mixing nutes. Remember you can always put a small layer of happy frog on the bottom then grow the plant and when the roots reach the bottom they get that boost they need.

Most common mistakes.
1 over watering.
2 underwatering
3 over fertilizing
4 underfertalizing.
Ph is super important. It locks out a plants ability to uptake certain nutes at certain ph levels.
Ph is how acidic or alkaline the soil is . 5.8 to 6.2 is perfect because a lot of nutes will ride the ph upwards over time by going a little lower you rise right into the best possible spot.
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Thank you I will go ahead and give them a flush and hope for the best
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Might be underwatering. I do a mix of FFOF and Light Warrior sometimes for seeds or small clones. I don't think I would want to mix the peat based FFOF with the coco coir based Happy Frog. I just remember reading something about it not being ideal to mix the two, but can't remember what the reason was. I would just give it a good watering. That shit is hot, so I always run water through the new soil to flush out some of the excess before anything goes in it. The runoff starts out dark brown, and i stop flushing it when it looks like tea.
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Looks like hot soil. There are soils on the market that mix coco and peat, but they're mostly seedling mixes and have water retention issues. I never flush, so my instinct would be to either transplant like @hotrodharley said, or see if it grows through it. I have had a couple of plants grow through hot soil when using promix herb & vegetable soil for a sativa, but it didn't look quite as bad as those.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Fox Farm / Happy Frog soils are prebuffered to 6.3 ..... ( dial it between 6.3 - 6.5 )

Nothing more nothing less ... once you control to that tighter range , plant will acclimate better to this soil. Yes , FFOF is a hotter soil .... some strains just need basic watering ONLY so plant can naturally condition itself to it. This where noobs go south , they either start adding NUTES ON TOP OF A HOT SOIL and then wonder WHY plant gets burned / shocked / lockout.

FFOF soil grows always seem overthought ..... it is FULL of amendments “ right out of bag “.
It will FEED plants for weeks .... on water only. Water in PH 6.3 - 6.5 in and go have a beer and watch Asian porn .

NO “ SPECIAL “ WATER ..... just fuckin tap. Let the soil do the work.

Bottom line ..... narrow down PH .... leave it there and let plant work thru it.
 
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Cornercab36

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Thanks for the suggestions guys they seem to have gotten a bit worse a few hours after post but new growth looks somewhat healthy and they dont appear to have gotten too much worse other than the affected spots turning orange-brown hoping they will grow through it
 
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