Second Round of Democratic Debates

Fogdog

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Michael Moore urges Michelle Obama to run against Trump

Filmmaker Michael Moore said in a new interview that there is only one candidate up to the challenge to “crush” President Trump in 2020, “and her last name rhymes with Obama.”

“In fact, it is Obama — Michelle Obama,” Moore said on MSNBC. “Everybody watching this right now knows she is a beloved American and she would go in there and she would beat him.”

Moore said it is not enough to have a Democratic candidate who will defeat Trump, noting that his 2016 Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, won 3 million more votes nationwide.

“The only way to remove Trump is to crush Trump. And that’s the question that has to be asked, who can crush Trump? Who’s the street fighter?” Moore said.

He said four of the Democratic presidential candidates — former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) — could beat Trump. But he said that is not enough.

Obama, he said, would be able to crush Trump.

“She would beat him in the debates, he wouldn’t be able to bully her, he wouldn’t be able to nickname her,” he said.

Moore cited Obama’s popular tour for her memoir “Becoming."

“She takes the stage and she’s so powerful and so good you just look at that and think of course she could win,” he said.

Obama, however, is not among the vast field of two dozen Democrats looking to face Trump in 2020.

“Well, has anyone asked her?” Moore said. “If asked to serve, I believe she would serve.”

Obama is the most admired woman in the world, according to a July YouGov poll, beating out Oprah Winfrey, Angelina Jolie and Queen Elizabeth II.

A former lawyer and University of Chicago dean, she has made no indication that she intends to run for the presidency or any other office.

The Obamas are likely to hold out on endorsing a candidate until one is chosen by the party.

A spokesperson for the Obamas did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
lol
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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many of these candidates need to go into the cabinet of the dem that wins..they have some great ideas. i like yang as well.
Absolutely! So many talented and brilliant democratic candidates. I really like Yang as well. I appreciated his openness and honesty about his family and telling about his autistic child. It’s sad that Trump has to keep his son Barrons autism like a dirty little secret that he is ashamed of ..,,but not surprising at all considering what an insensitive creepy asshole he is.
 

schuylaar

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Michael Moore urges Michelle Obama to run against Trump

Filmmaker Michael Moore said in a new interview that there is only one candidate up to the challenge to “crush” President Trump in 2020, “and her last name rhymes with Obama.”

“In fact, it is Obama — Michelle Obama,” Moore said on MSNBC. “Everybody watching this right now knows she is a beloved American and she would go in there and she would beat him.”

Moore said it is not enough to have a Democratic candidate who will defeat Trump, noting that his 2016 Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, won 3 million more votes nationwide.

“The only way to remove Trump is to crush Trump. And that’s the question that has to be asked, who can crush Trump? Who’s the street fighter?” Moore said.

He said four of the Democratic presidential candidates — former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) — could beat Trump. But he said that is not enough.

Obama, he said, would be able to crush Trump.

“She would beat him in the debates, he wouldn’t be able to bully her, he wouldn’t be able to nickname her,” he said.

Moore cited Obama’s popular tour for her memoir “Becoming."

“She takes the stage and she’s so powerful and so good you just look at that and think of course she could win,” he said.

Obama, however, is not among the vast field of two dozen Democrats looking to face Trump in 2020.

“Well, has anyone asked her?” Moore said. “If asked to serve, I believe she would serve.”

Obama is the most admired woman in the world, according to a July YouGov poll, beating out Oprah Winfrey, Angelina Jolie and Queen Elizabeth II.

A former lawyer and University of Chicago dean, she has made no indication that she intends to run for the presidency or any other office.

The Obamas are likely to hold out on endorsing a candidate until one is chosen by the party.

A spokesperson for the Obamas did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

the person to beat Trumpy is the opposite of him- Sanders.
 

schuylaar

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Absolutely! So many talented and brilliant democratic candidates. I really like Yang as well. I appreciated his openness and honesty about his family and telling about his autistic child. It’s sad that Trump has to keep his son Barrons autism like a dirty little secret that he is ashamed of ..,,but not surprising at all considering what an insensitive creepy asshole he is.
people like Trumpy consider this to be a defect- how sad..i'm holding out hope that the kid will murder him in his sleep one night..guess that's why Trumpy is so big on making sure his bedroom door has a lock on it.

there's also a drain in Trumpy's Tower bedroom floor.

 

doublejj

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Michael Moore urges Michelle Obama to run against Trump

Filmmaker Michael Moore said in a new interview that there is only one candidate up to the challenge to “crush” President Trump in 2020, “and her last name rhymes with Obama.”

“In fact, it is Obama — Michelle Obama,” Moore said on MSNBC. “Everybody watching this right now knows she is a beloved American and she would go in there and she would beat him.”

Moore said it is not enough to have a Democratic candidate who will defeat Trump, noting that his 2016 Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, won 3 million more votes nationwide.

“The only way to remove Trump is to crush Trump. And that’s the question that has to be asked, who can crush Trump? Who’s the street fighter?” Moore said.

He said four of the Democratic presidential candidates — former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) — could beat Trump. But he said that is not enough.

Obama, he said, would be able to crush Trump.

“She would beat him in the debates, he wouldn’t be able to bully her, he wouldn’t be able to nickname her,” he said.

Moore cited Obama’s popular tour for her memoir “Becoming."

“She takes the stage and she’s so powerful and so good you just look at that and think of course she could win,” he said.

Obama, however, is not among the vast field of two dozen Democrats looking to face Trump in 2020.

“Well, has anyone asked her?” Moore said. “If asked to serve, I believe she would serve.”

Obama is the most admired woman in the world, according to a July YouGov poll, beating out Oprah Winfrey, Angelina Jolie and Queen Elizabeth II.

A former lawyer and University of Chicago dean, she has made no indication that she intends to run for the presidency or any other office.

The Obamas are likely to hold out on endorsing a candidate until one is chosen by the party.

A spokesperson for the Obamas did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Put Barack Obama back in the white house....
 

ttystikk

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Obama was utterly obsequious to corporate power, yet not obsequious enough- so he was relentlessly attacked by corporate owned politicians and entities.

Look who was elected to replace him.

You want that again?

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

'Just vote Democrats in' is the height of myopia. Since you obviously haven't figured it out, they aren't any different than Republicans. Obama separated children from their parents at the border before Trump did it. Obama bailed out banks to the tune of trillions of dollars while leaving homeowners to be foreclosed on by the millions.

Until Trump came along, Obama's administration had dropped more bombs around the world than any other President or leader in history, even more than wartime Presidents. So tell me again how he was fundamentally different than Trump- other than being smoother and more genteel?

Corporate America and the tiny number of oligarchs who own them are the enemies of the American People. The Carnage of their class war is everywhere, the body count is climbing into the millions- and I'm talking about Americans in America, I'm not even including the millions of innocent civilians in other countries who had the misfortune of being somewhere the United States wanted under their control.

You've been systematically misinformed and propagandized to such an extreme that the fact that more Americans now die of opiate overdoses than car accidents is news to you- nevermind any discussion of the underlying causes.

I'm only anti Democratic for the same reasons I'm anti Republican: THEY'RE BOTH TERMINALLY CORRUPT. The extent to which you refuse to see that is a product of your own ignorance.
 

travisw

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Obama was utterly obsequious to corporate power, yet not obsequious enough- so he was relentlessly attacked by corporate owned politicians and entities.

Look who was elected to replace him.

You want that again?

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

'Just vote Democrats in' is the height of myopia. Since you obviously haven't figured it out, they aren't any different than Republicans. Obama separated children from their parents at the border before Trump did it. Obama bailed out banks to the tune of trillions of dollars while leaving homeowners to be foreclosed on by the millions.

Until Trump came along, Obama's administration had dropped more bombs around the world than any other President or leader in history, even more than wartime Presidents. So tell me again how he was fundamentally different than Trump- other than being smoother and more genteel?

Corporate America and the tiny number of oligarchs who own them are the enemies of the American People. The Carnage of their class war is everywhere, the body count is climbing into the millions- and I'm talking about Americans in America, I'm not even including the millions of innocent civilians in other countries who had the misfortune of being somewhere the United States wanted under their control.

You've been systematically misinformed and propagandized to such an extreme that the fact that more Americans now die of opiate overdoses than car accidents is news to you- nevermind any discussion of the underlying causes.

I'm only anti Democratic for the same reasons I'm anti Republican: THEY'RE BOTH TERMINALLY CORRUPT. The extent to which you refuse to see that is a product of your own ignorance.
Your overdose stat would be news to many as it isn't true.

Every day, more than 130 people in the United States die after overdosing on opioids.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/opioids/opioid-overdose-crisis

Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/812603

Tyler's gotta Tyler edit:
You're aware that this
Odds of dying from accidental opioid overdose in the US surpass those of dying in car accident
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/health/opioid-deaths-united-states-surpass-road-accidents/index.html

doesn't mean the same thing right?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Your overdose stat would be news to many as it isn't true.

Every day, more than 130 people in the United States die after overdosing on opioids.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/opioids/opioid-overdose-crisis

Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/812603

Tyler's gotta Tyler edit:
You're aware that this
Odds of dying from accidental opioid overdose in the US surpass those of dying in car accident
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/health/opioid-deaths-united-states-surpass-road-accidents/index.html

doesn't mean the same thing right?
What amazes me most about this response is that you attempt to discredit the point I'm making by posting about a perceived error in math. Nevermind that you even got that wrong...

You've bought the whole corporate story. It's pointless to discuss anything with you. You're hopeless. Go vote for Trump.
 

zeddd

Well-Known Member
Obama was utterly obsequious to corporate power, yet not obsequious enough- so he was relentlessly attacked by corporate owned politicians and entities.

Look who was elected to replace him.

You want that again?

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

'Just vote Democrats in' is the height of myopia. Since you obviously haven't figured it out, they aren't any different than Republicans. Obama separated children from their parents at the border before Trump did it. Obama bailed out banks to the tune of trillions of dollars while leaving homeowners to be foreclosed on by the millions.

Until Trump came along, Obama's administration had dropped more bombs around the world than any other President or leader in history, even more than wartime Presidents. So tell me again how he was fundamentally different than Trump- other than being smoother and more genteel?

Corporate America and the tiny number of oligarchs who own them are the enemies of the American People. The Carnage of their class war is everywhere, the body count is climbing into the millions- and I'm talking about Americans in America, I'm not even including the millions of innocent civilians in other countries who had the misfortune of being somewhere the United States wanted under their control.

You've been systematically misinformed and propagandized to such an extreme that the fact that more Americans now die of opiate overdoses than car accidents is news to you- nevermind any discussion of the underlying causes.

I'm only anti Democratic for the same reasons I'm anti Republican: THEY'RE BOTH TERMINALLY CORRUPT. The extent to which you refuse to see that is a product of your own ignorance.
Pimplifepays$
 

adower

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Candidates? The Democratic Party can’t even handle the squad! What a waste of time. Trump is going to win in 2020!!

The democrats already know there is no hope so they throw the green new deal or forgiving all student debt or there....
 

zeddd

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Totally worthless post. Virtue signaling to the group. Do you need approval that badly? Tell us where the bad man hurt you.
Tell us how much you made trafficking humans today, did you donate the profits to a women trafficking charity or did you spend it on crack?
 

ttystikk

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Candidates? The Democratic Party can’t even handle the squad! What a waste of time. Trump is going to win in 2020!!

The democrats already know there is no hope so they throw the green new deal or forgiving all student debt or there....
There's a huge difference between the establishment Democratic Party and the Progressive wing. You don't see the establishment party offering to invest in American citizens through subsidised college- might cut into corporate profits!

The Green New Deal is dead until corporate America can make a profit on it. They said so. Since the consequences won't show up in the next few quarters, they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to behave this way.

Until you see the insanity in the above statements you're part of the problem, even if unwittingly.
 

ttystikk

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Tell us how much you made trafficking humans today, did you donate the profits to a women trafficking charity or did you spend it on crack?
More virtue signaling. I'm not sure I've ever seen you post an intelligent thought.

If all you can think about all day is cutting others down, you're a pretty sad excuse for a human being.
 

zeddd

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More virtue signaling. I'm not sure I've ever seen you post an intelligent thought.

If all you can think about all day is cutting others down, you're a pretty sad excuse for a human being.
Said the pimp trustee funded shitbag who pimps out vulnerable young women in parking lots to fund his crack habit
 

hanimmal

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'Just vote Democrats in' is the height of myopia. Since you obviously haven't figured it out, they aren't any different than Republicans. Obama separated children from their parents at the border before Trump did it. Obama bailed out banks to the tune of trillions of dollars while leaving homeowners to be foreclosed on by the millions.
This is the two guys pushed an old lady smear.

It may be true, but it leaves out context. One guy pushed the old lady down because he's a dick. The other pushed her out of the way of a bus.

Obama may have separated kids, I don't know for sure he did at the border (unless there was clear evidence of wrongdoing is my guess of why). Trump has systematically shut down the border for these poor people fleeing violence and when they tried to get here a different route they were deemed criminals and have their children ripped away from them with no clear longterm plan of what was going to happen when the system hit critical overload.

Obama bailed out banks, because it was far better for us all. If the banks started to fall, everyone with any savings would have been wiped out, all the people who would then lose their jobs would have to forfeit their houses anyways to whatever vultures picked up the notes for pennies on the dollar. It would have been so much worse. And Obama did it in a way that earned the American public a profit. The banks paid all the money back with interest. Trump just cut the taxes for corporations and made them permanent.

It is not the same, Democrats are closer to the people that make up the nation than any party in the history of our civilization. And the people that were traditionally in power hate it and are spreading this crap nonstop.
 
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