Anyone run 6/2 on/off lights during veg?

.Smoke

.Smoke

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Read an article a few weeks back by a guy with a degree with a bunch -o- letters after it ***Edit. Maybe not quite that but definitely more experience than me*** talking about how the chlorophyll/Co2/ rest cycle of the plants works and he suggested a 6 on 2 off veg cycle.

Well I gave it a shot.
Have some clones that were cut 2 weeks ago from a flowering plant. They have pretty much been dormant this whole time.

Not sure if it was perfect timing or what, but switched to 6/2 schedule yesterday and over night in a 10 hour period I got a 1/2 inch growth across the board on them.

Figured I'd share my experience.
I'm going to keep running this schedule and will update with progress.
 
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vostok

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a link to the article would be the smart move here as you have now bunch-0-letters and I suspect no degree?

and unfortunatly ...very little hort experience(pity)

thanks
 
.Smoke

.Smoke

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vostok said:
a link to the article would be the smart move here as you have now bunch-0-letters and I suspect no degree?

and unfortunatly ...very little hort experience(pity)

thanks
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Wow, someone being snarky. What a change.

For your reading pleasure...
https://www.maximumyield.com/try-this-highly-recommended-cannabis-lighting-schedule/2/4927

Written by Stephen Keen...Dude that basically brought water cooling to the main stream...

Btw, Hort experience. No. First grow.

Degree in electronics engineering? With focus on IR and RF applications for the military? (Veteran too)

Yes thank you.
 
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Guccizillaa

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.Smoke said:
Wow, someone being snarky. What a change.

For your reading pleasure...
https://www.maximumyield.com/try-this-highly-recommended-cannabis-lighting-schedule/2/4927

Written by Stephen Keen...Dude that basically brought water cooling to the main stream...

Btw, Hort experience. No. First grow.

Degree in electronics engineering? With focus on IR and RF applications for the military? (Veteran too)

Yes thank you.
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His level of expertise is 10 years as a hobbyist. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I would be extremely skeptical. There is a lot more sound evidence and research on 18/6.
 

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.Smoke

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Guccizillaa said:
His level of expertise is 10 years as a hobbyist. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I would be extremely skeptical. There is a lot more sound evidence and research on 18/6.
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Understandable.

Einstein was a hobbyist at one point too.

I'm just trying to gather more data...
 
xtsho

xtsho

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First off let me state that this is just my take on the article and 6/2. In no way is my post directed towards @.Smoke.



I've gotten 1/2 inch of growth without using a 6/2 lighting cycle.

As soon as I saw the link to Maximum Yield I was fairly certain I would be unimpressed with whatever the article had to say. After reading it even more so.

A couple of things from the article are just plain wrong.

"For cannabis to flower, there must be at least 12 hours of continuous darkness."

False

Ruderalis doesn't need 12 hours of continuous darkness. And crosses made with Ruderalis "autoflowers" don't need 12 hours of darkness. I've also grown strains that were not Ruderalis that flowered under 18/6. Ketama was one of them. There are some Indica's that will flower with less than 12 hours of darkness.



"Additionally, when plants are exposed to 18 straight hours of intense light, they become stressed. Signs of stress, including droopy or curled leaves, will usually appear toward the end of the light cycle."

False

I have vegged under 24/0 and never experienced any stress to the plant, droopy or curled leaves. Plants were 24/0 for weeks and were perfectly fine the entire time.


At this point I find it hard to take anything in the article seriously. Too much misinformation. And as always with publications like Maximum Yield there is a plug for a company. In this case Hydro Innovations.


"His personal successes with his garden led him to want to bring new ideas, mainly water-cooling, to the mainstream, which led to the founding of Hydro Innovations."

Water cooling has been mainstream for decades with hydroponics.
 
Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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xtsho said:
First off let me state that this is just my take on the article and 6/2. In no way is my post directed towards @.Smoke.



I've gotten 1/2 inch of growth without using a 6/2 lighting cycle.

As soon as I saw the link to Maximum Yield I was fairly certain I would be unimpressed with whatever the article had to say. After reading it even more so.

A couple of things from the article are just plain wrong.

"For cannabis to flower, there must be at least 12 hours of continuous darkness."

False

Ruderalis doesn't need 12 hours of continuous darkness. And crosses made with Ruderalis "autoflowers" don't need 12 hours of darkness. I've also grown strains that were not Ruderalis that flowered under 18/6. Ketama was one of them. There are some Indica's that will flower with less than 12 hours of darkness.



"Additionally, when plants are exposed to 18 straight hours of intense light, they become stressed. Signs of stress, including droopy or curled leaves, will usually appear toward the end of the light cycle."

False

I have vegged under 24/0 and never experienced any stress to the plant, droopy or curled leaves. Plants were 24/0 for weeks and were perfectly fine the entire time.


At this point I find it hard to take anything in the article seriously. Too much misinformation. And as always with publications like Maximum Yield there is a plug for a company. In this case Hydro Innovations.


"His personal successes with his garden led him to want to bring new ideas, mainly water-cooling, to the mainstream, which led to the founding of Hydro Innovations."

Water cooling has been mainstream for decades with hydroponics.
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The man is doing it. Putting the test to practical applications. Every comment here is just heresay. And all of your responses are just ankle biting the max yield article.
Op I'm in. I won't try it. I mean you are :P I don't have the room. But I'm curious to your findings and love your comment about Einstein. Except. I'm not his biggest fan. Stealing ideas :P but I do like that he pushed like you to test the theory
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Peyote alexia said:
The man is doing it. Putting the test to practical applications. Every comment here is just heresay. And all of your responses are just ankle biting the max yield article.
Op I'm in. I won't try it. I mean you are :P I don't have the room. But I'm curious to your findings and love your comment about Einstein. Except. I'm not his biggest fan. Stealing ideas :P but I do like that he pushed like you to test the theory
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Every comment here is not hearsay. I stated facts. If you want to chase stoner science then by all means go ahead. Hey I have some fairy dust that will make your buds swell three times their size during the last week as well.

Saying everything is hearsay just shows how much you you don't know just like the author of that article.

Anyone that's been growing cannabis for any length of time knows what I stated is true and a that the author is incorrect with a couple of things they have stated. Why would I listen to someone that doesn't even know a couple of basic things and instead makes claims that are false? Did you even bother reading the article?

"For cannabis to flower, there must be at least 12 hours of continuous darkness."

False

Ruderalis doesn't need 12 hours of continuous darkness. And crosses made with Ruderalis "autoflowers" don't need 12 hours of darkness. I've also grown strains that were not Ruderalis that flowered under 18/6. Ketama was one of them. There are some Indica's that will flower with less than 12 hours of darkness.



"Additionally, when plants are exposed to 18 straight hours of intense light, they become stressed. Signs of stress, including droopy or curled leaves, will usually appear toward the end of the light cycle."

False

I have vegged under 24/0 and never experienced any stress to the plant, droopy or curled leaves. Plants were 24/0 for weeks and were perfectly fine the entire time.
 
CoB_nUt

CoB_nUt

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I've vegged with 6/6 and 8/4. Vegged fine under these schedules. Confused the fuck out of them when I flipped to flower. Happened to 3 seperate strains,all new beans to my garden. I got some reveg growth during stretch.Single leafed fans in flower and weird growth.
Flower was dank and tasty. Oh, they were all flowered under 10/14.
I THINK the extra day hours during their transition and stretch induced some type of hormonal confusion or imbalance.
I like to experiment, but I had to go back to 14/10 veg to get "normal" flower growth.
Just a little something to consider. I'll be lurking to see how it turns out.More data points added is always good IMO.
 
3rd Monkey

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It's been around for a while. Before I moved, I grew in a cold basement. Lights out it would hit 40F. So, I switched to 6/2. It maintained a better temp, therefore the plants grew better... but not because of the schedule itself, just the temps it kept up.

That said, I ran it against 18/6 at my new place. I couldn't really notice a difference other than the 6/2 cycles the timer more, which wears out HPS ballasts much quicker. With QBs, they may be ok. As far as growth, I didn't notice a difference at all.

I always run a week of 14/10 before flipping to 12/12, so I didn't notice a stall during transition either. Maybe on a straight switch to 12s...
 
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