HLG vs HGL Side By Side

[lukio]

get the fuck out. GTFO

 

[boilingoil]

I am

Then why don't you post your parameters up with each update on the side by sides ?

 

[zypheruk]

HLG is trademarked but not to horticultural lighting group just more bull from them.

 

[hybridway2]

I

Then why don't you post your parameters up with each update on the side by sides ?

I did

 

[OneHitDone]

didn‘t i tell you to gtfo the other day? why are you even answering questions not directed at you?

 

[Abiqua]

Fuck that shit. My HLG boards are assembled in country by a seriously cool group of people that build quality lights and have outstanding customer service. I'm not buying some cheap knockoff junk just to save a few bucks. My wallet has a conscience.

They are assembled on the same line..... the chinese army is a cool group of people? That is who runs the majority of these labor intensive sweatshops.....look at the vape market, this exact same thing is happening, ie the company resells to other parties regardless of trademark from a place with jurisdiction.....

 

[boilingoil]

I

I did

( I did) when? At the beginning of the grow. Last time you said anything about your parameters was on DE-FO and said 1800 ppm, no other comments on any other parameters at that time.

I guess I will just lay it out there for you.
You simply don't understand coir basics period.
Coir has a CEC capacity of 90-100. A basic peat media has a CEC of 100-200. So what does that tell you ? Does that give you a hint why soil growers don't have problems with LED's and why you keep chasing deficiencies in coir, why peat growers can get away with feed,water,water where coir requires feeding every time.
1800 ppm, in my 35 years of growing I've never seen a cannabis plant require that much nutrients, didn't matter where and how it was grown, indoor, outdoor, hydroponics or coir and soil. Closest any plant I've grown needed was 1000 ppm and that was with a starting water source of 390 ppm.

I hate dumping on you but come-on, you've spent to much time on this so called problem that it's effecting your judgement.

 

[zypheruk]

Treat coco like dirt = waste of time using it. Feed and Feed every time simple as. @boilingoil is correct in this subject. sorry

 

[sethimus]

( I did) when? At the beginning of the grow. Last time you said anything about your parameters was on DE-FO and said 1800 ppm, no other comments on any other parameters at that time.

I guess I will just lay it out there for you.
You simply don't understand coir basics period.
Coir has a CEC capacity of 90-100. A basic peat media has a CEC of 100-200. So what does that tell you ? Does that give you a hint why soil growers don't have problems with LED's and why you keep chasing deficiencies in coir, why peat growers can get away with feed,water,water where coir requires feeding every time.
1800 ppm, in my 35 years of growing I've never seen a cannabis plant require that much nutrients, didn't matter where and how it was grown, indoor, outdoor, hydroponics or coir and soil. Closest any plant I've grown needed was 1000 ppm and that was with a starting water source of 390 ppm.

I hate dumping on you but come-on, you've spent to much time on this so called problem that it's effecting your judgement.

more on that topic: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=30768

led deficiencies aka i don‘t know shit what i do with coco...

 

[Abiqua]

more on that topic: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=30768

led deficiencies aka i don‘t know shit what i do with coco...

To be fair, it took me a while to learn indoor soil no till but i wanted it a certain way and had to dial it back because control is an illusion..
At Hybrid:
Go back to your notes and find one or two strains that you think did the best and with what regimen. Run em, then do a second run witn half nutrients.
Tone down all this club of the month shit, run coco or whatever or go back to some fire seed and pull a couple of phenotypes [sisters] and run those solid until you dont have issues.
Then try to stay even with the hype train, running multi variable strains in the same room at the same time....

You need to be a ninja if you run multiple strains at a time, all year, it takes work and experience too, not saying you dont have that, your good. But seems you running way the fuck too fast, cookies and gelato crosses will still be around in ten years, dont worry bout that!

 

[NanoGadget]

They are assembled on the same line..... the chinese army is a cool group of people? That is who runs the majority of these labor intensive sweatshops.....look at the vape market, this exact same thing is happening, ie the company resells to other parties regardless of trademark from a place with jurisdiction.....

Uh, they actually populate their own boards right here in the US. Mine have samsung diodes made in korea. So no, not made in china. Dont be an asshole.

 

[OneHitDone]

Uh, they actually populate their own boards right here in the US. Mine have samsung diodes made in korea. So no, not made in china. Dont be an asshole.

Don't think he was being an asshole in this case - it is common knowledge that HLG boards until recent were in fact made in China or wherever and not the USA.

 

[NanoGadget]

Don't think he was being an asshole in this case - it is common knowledge that HLG boards until recent were in fact made in China or wherever and not the USA.

All ny boards except the very first one i bought were populated in TN. Either way, running off at the mouth in a condescending way when you clearly don't have all the facts is kinda being an asshole in my book.

 

[hybridway2]

To be fair, it took me a while to learn indoor soil no till but i wanted it a certain way and had to dial it back because control is an illusion..
At Hybrid:
Go back to your notes and find one or two strains that you think did the best and with what regimen. Run em, then do a second run witn half nutrients.
Tone down all this club of the month shit, run coco or whatever or go back to some fire seed and pull a couple of phenotypes [sisters] and run those solid until you dont have issues.
Then try to stay even with the hype train, running multi variable strains in the same room at the same time....

You need to be a ninja if you run multiple strains at a time, all year, it takes work and experience too, not saying you dont have that, your good. But seems you running way the fuck too fast, cookies and gelato crosses will still be around in ten years, dont worry bout that!

Thank you!

 

[lukio]

Cammie must be doing something right - you can't seem to keep your eyes off of her

got a whole folder on that dickhead! to be honest though, she has got a face you wouldnt forget.

if it wasnt for your great knowledge i'd put you on ignore...oh wait...

 

[Stephenj37826]

Don't think he was being an asshole in this case - it is common knowledge that HLG boards until recent were in fact made in China or wherever and not the USA.

Not really they were produced mostly in Michigan then in South Korea. They are produced in TN now.

 

[Stephenj37826]

They are assembled on the same line..... the chinese army is a cool group of people? That is who runs the majority of these labor intensive sweatshops.....look at the vape market, this exact same thing is happening, ie the company resells to other parties regardless of trademark from a place with jurisdiction.....

They are assembled in Tennessee on Panasonic equipment......

 

[OneHitDone]

Not really they were produced mostly in Michigan then in South Korea. They are produced in TN now.

Just stating that it was not always in house and that does not take away from a product being quality or not just because it was made elsewhere.
Obviously if it can be done in house profitably it's a win win

 

[Abiqua]

All ny boards except the very first one i bought were populated in TN. Either way, running off at the mouth in a condescending way when you clearly don't have all the facts is kinda being an asshole in my book.

So instead of name calling show it, maybe I wasnt necessarily talking about HLG, both of the owners I know. Maybe they have been brought in house which is exactly what I am talking about with quality control and IP loss. Let the grown ups talk.

 

[Abiqua]

They are assembled in Tennessee on Panasonic equipment......

Was that done because of qc/qa issues? And you could at least put a timeline on that comment, since some might construe that to mean, since production of the first boards, which wouldnt be the case?

Is there any hope of fighting copycats still using Samsung in general? International IP seems rarely enforecable, we are on the cusp in the seed game too...