N mite help..jmo
Does she look ok?
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Dog Star
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Why 6.0 PH,isnt that too low in soil mix???
Cause you have lot of perlite like you mention??
You grow in some kind of soil that have too much aeration that doesnt act like a real soil.. so PH swings are
more than possible.. you could use 30% wormcastings rather than 30% perlite but folks have some dumb
vision that Cannabis needs aerators..
P.S.--- Am now definitly sure you have Mg def. by your other pictures.. but like i say you need to give
beside Magnesium also other secondary elements and pinch of micros in next feed..
Perlite is not organic.. its mineral heat expanded rocks and just take valuable space
for true soil mix that really worths and performs..
SuperNutz
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I only use mycos on tranplants. I give the worm casting tea once a week. As far as your post before this one, my soil is probably 7.4 on average as far as the soil meter stuck in for an hour says. I used a very mulchy manure compost from the landscape supply yards along with black clay sandy dirt, shouldn't be too aerated, probably 3-4 gallons out of the mix is perlite, in 65 gallon pots(probably 50 gallons of mix total right now). My lightest green one is my biggest so no matter what she's getting top dressed today. Similar to the pre plant mix but straight compost higher on the P and K along with more azomite, oyster shell, worm castings, humic acid, etc. They've been getting mag though. I add a cup of Epsom salt per 50 gallons of the 275 gallon tank till it's about half way then dilute that and wait till the tank is empty to add more. So about every 10 days they get full mag.
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Dog Star
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Growing in 70% black soil and 30% of wormcastings as base mix beside some few organic and
mineral amendments... no aeration means more space and valuable mix for roots that plants
can "eat" with help of benneficial bacteries and mycorhiza helpers..
Those few chunks of random perlite comes from those initial pot that needed to haved more aerated mix
so the young clone or plant can easily establish her roots.. but later when they get stronger roots then
Cannabis plant dont need to have aerators inside mix as they are strong enough to "eat" thru medium..
also its important when you work with pure soil mixes to never stiff them on repoting,use your
brain a bit in process and there will be just positivity for you and your plants if you will ever
choose to try these kind of pure soil mix..
mineral amendments... no aeration means more space and valuable mix for roots that plants
can "eat" with help of benneficial bacteries and mycorhiza helpers..
Those few chunks of random perlite comes from those initial pot that needed to haved more aerated mix
so the young clone or plant can easily establish her roots.. but later when they get stronger roots then
Cannabis plant dont need to have aerators inside mix as they are strong enough to "eat" thru medium..
also its important when you work with pure soil mixes to never stiff them on repoting,use your
brain a bit in process and there will be just positivity for you and your plants if you will ever
choose to try these kind of pure soil mix..
Dog Star
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Its good to give beneficial bacteries and also maybe repeat dose of mycos that can be drenched..
this step will keep your plants in better health,balance and PH,since you are grower that wish organic bud
try real organic way in future,pure soil mixes,alive soil with worms that will aerate your pots and create
food for plant.. dont use aerators of any kind.. experiment a bit.. atleast on one pot or plant..
Kind regards SuperNutz
SuperNutz
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Like all advice it will be taken into account, but I don't think you hear wtf I'm saying. I have worms in the planters, a worm bin with probably 10k worms and use earth worm casting tea once a week. Every amendment is OMRI certified. And just cause I buy my soil and compost in truckloads instead of little bags that will fit in a pink Prius, doesn't make it not organic you snobby douchebag.
Dog Star
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OK... am need to spend more time when i reply to handles as SuperNutz.. or to not reply at all..
then i be saved from called snobby duchebag...
but i just gived you personal advice,there wasnt any bad blood... you can be mad at me but that will not solve your problems
you have with your plant or plants.. and you are one that ask for advice.. why are you dumb shit when people wish to
help you..!?
Its not everything in monkey type of ego...
then i be saved from called snobby duchebag...
but i just gived you personal advice,there wasnt any bad blood... you can be mad at me but that will not solve your problems
you have with your plant or plants.. and you are one that ask for advice.. why are you dumb shit when people wish to
help you..!?
Its not everything in monkey type of ego...
Dog Star
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Bennies from wormcastings will not be enough to give good amount of bacteries like when you will work with
some of beneficials in dust or liquid that are on market sellin... am use wormcastings but also replenish with beneficial
bacteries almost every watering..
SuperNutz
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Not reply at all preferably. The question was directed at people with actual experience growing outdoors like eddy600, fresnofarmer, ganjagurl, etc that have learned through trial and error in an imperfect world. Sounds like you read alot on the subject but have a hard time distinguishing between facts and advertising. Take care though.
FresnoFarmer
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Indoor and outdoor. Whole different ball game bud. Your mix would turn into brick and cook roots out in my gardens. Aeration is mando. In ground you can get away with little to none if the native soil is fluffy enough. In containers it's a different story.
Dog Star
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Its not true... outdoor this kind of mix you need to mulch or add cover and he never become "brick" like you claim..
am outdoor,indoor and i can grow plants on top of your heads if i wish,the growing mofo if you like it..
Thing is you never tried it but still judge... one other says that i grow in "ball of mud".. LOL
While mine soil is soft like ball of cotton,soft and rich,roots never have probs to break it... but some folks
have their personal visions so hard established it very difficult to "open" their eyes and show them
right direction where to go...
Am showing you advanced knowledge,that is infront of mixes with perlite or any other aerator...
problem is only hard ego and non possibility to accept best stuff cause your mind is decived
by not enough of knowledge or experience.. you are deep in your trench.. trying to fight for a
rights on using perlite..
not mine first time to experience.. and i dont have nothing against it.. just be decived..
am come back to show you buds that i grow inside bricks and ball of mud..
Maybe one day you exchange your thoughts... maybe you see the light.. i know for self i never ever
use mix with perlite.. only for young plants that have tender roots or clones is good to have a bit of
perlite to break a surface a bit.. but when plant already have roots and is ready for repoting then
they are strong enough to go thru good and rich pure soil mixes whithouth issues..
Am will like you try one plant grow like that and that you learn in process... nothing to loose,just to gain..
And if you are growers than you know that indoor growing is more difficult than outdoor growing,
growing in containers is harder than direct in soil in big digged holes..
Also look how plant is sowed inside container that plug is raised above soil,you talk aeration while i did
it with type of sowing.. its direct aeration,roots breath all the time as part of roots is total exposed to
air that surround it..
Think... and dont judge.. that will be good advice..
ganga gurl420
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I've been reading this thread and the debating. Here is my 2 cents from my own experience.
I do start my babies in fluffy soil. You have to when they are young and I think we can all agree on that. By the time they are ready to be transplanted outdoors of course they are very established.
I wouldn't call my soil (100% composted manure) fluffy by any means.... many ask if I use perlite and the answer is always no. In fact by the end of the season from rain etc the soil has compacted quite a bit ... almost a 3rd of my boxes seem empty. However the most important thing here is drainage. It sucks up the water the moment it touches it. If it didnt do that then heck yeah I would add perlite.
I think the point I'm trying to get at is yes established roots will grow through very hard soil...even hard clay like I used to grow in, and it doesnt seem to affect the size for me, but depending on what kind of soil you have if it does not drain well then yes it has to be amended for drainage.
All in all ...every soil is different and there are far too many variables in individual grows to say this is how it should be done for everyone. What works for me may not work for you. If your plant is healthy and seems grow fast then you are on the right track.
Final thought from trial and error is I HATE GROWING IN DIRT SOIL NOW. I tried bought soil, made super soil, I tried synthetics along with organic and just always seemed to have so many issues. For years and years I tried to dial the soil in but no matter what I was never happy. Once I tried it this way ...wow just wow.
I do start my babies in fluffy soil. You have to when they are young and I think we can all agree on that. By the time they are ready to be transplanted outdoors of course they are very established.
I wouldn't call my soil (100% composted manure) fluffy by any means.... many ask if I use perlite and the answer is always no. In fact by the end of the season from rain etc the soil has compacted quite a bit ... almost a 3rd of my boxes seem empty. However the most important thing here is drainage. It sucks up the water the moment it touches it. If it didnt do that then heck yeah I would add perlite.
I think the point I'm trying to get at is yes established roots will grow through very hard soil...even hard clay like I used to grow in, and it doesnt seem to affect the size for me, but depending on what kind of soil you have if it does not drain well then yes it has to be amended for drainage.
All in all ...every soil is different and there are far too many variables in individual grows to say this is how it should be done for everyone. What works for me may not work for you. If your plant is healthy and seems grow fast then you are on the right track.
Final thought from trial and error is I HATE GROWING IN DIRT SOIL NOW. I tried bought soil, made super soil, I tried synthetics along with organic and just always seemed to have so many issues. For years and years I tried to dial the soil in but no matter what I was never happy. Once I tried it this way ...wow just wow.
FresnoFarmer
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Why post an indoor picture in the outdoor forum? Let's see those outdoor plants you claim you can grow over my head.
Dog Star
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Maybe cause am not in legal country as you there...
So mine outdoor stays low and stealth,no need to be too much egoistic.. and what tells you that this is not possible to made outdoor,how did you found that truth???
Am made same mix for outdoor and they grow as crazy,even better than indoor as Sun have more power than Gavita 1000DE or any LEDs...
P.S.---- Its a dumb to think that folks that grow indoor cant grow outdoor....
FresnoFarmer
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Lololol I'm not saying its not possible. I grow in clay soil amended with compost. At the start I put the plants in small starter holes that have an aerated mix in it for good root establishment. But to say you can grow plants over my head is an overstatement. How do you find that true if you don't even have the ability to do it? Use your brain next time before coming at me
