Epstein Commits Suicide.

[schuylaar]

It would take a Mission Impossible team to pull something like heisting him. Obviously it could be done. It sounds like protocols there have been tossed aside with administrative personnel standing in for trained experienced corrections officers and overworked employees whose attention spans have to be affected. All of this was probably no secret to anyone with a little knowledge of the place. I’ve attended autopsies and I’m telling you it’s not something anyone should want to do but I’d like to know everything done at autopsy. If he hung himself then it wasn’t readily apparent to the coroner. They’re awaiting results of the crime scene investigation. There’s so many scenarios that one can easily imagine where his “dead” body was removed and at some point the movers be alone with it long enough to put a real dead body in and Eppy turned over to someone else.

I’ll still bet he offed himself because he knew he was never going to be free again.

not true.

according to the different states but I'll go with Florida..STATE LAW FACT a death that was unattended without on going illness must be autopsied..no ifs ands or buts- even for something that looks obvi like hanging..they're running against a ticking clock because as an orthodox jew, he's gotta be in the ground in 24..they always send someone over to watch the body in keeping with jewish law until he's interred. this is so that no one can defile the body.

 

[Budley Doright]

not true.

according to the different states but I'll go with Florida..STATE LAW FACT a death that was unattended without on going illness must be autopsied..no ifs ands or buts- even for something that looks obvi like hanging..they're running against a ticking clock because as an orthodox jew, he's gotta be in the ground in 24..they always send someone over to watch the body in keeping with jewish law until he's interred. this is so that no one can defile the body.

What did hotrod say that wasn’t true?

 

[schuylaar]

What did hotrod say that wasn’t true?

'if he hung himself and it really wasn't apparent to coroner..'

even if it was apparent, the death was 1) unattended and 2) without a doctor vouching for long term illness..it's still considered suspicious.

 

[schuylaar]

whenever there's a hit the Boss wants to be close by..as close as he's comfortable, without really being there.

he wants to be as close to the lifeforce draining out of epstein as he dared.

at less than 50 miles away..unsealed docs and a dead epstein..all the same day- imagine that?

i mean who's administration and DOJ did epstein die under?: TRUMPS

 

[topcat]

OK, so he was technically Jewish. How does that prescribe what happens to him after he's dead? Is it his "wishes", or does anyone that is determined to be of the Jewish faith bound by Hebrew law? Seriously, I don't know and want to learn.

Edit: I mean, I was born into a Catholic family, did the whole thing, even educated, but I am not Catholic and haven't been for a long time. So, I don't think whatever the "Church" says is valid for me. Could it be the same for Epstein?

 

[schuylaar]

OK, so he was technically Jewish. How does that prescribe what happens to him after he's dead? Is it his "wishes", or does anyone that is determined to be of the Jewish faith bound by Hebrew law? Seriously, I don't know and want to learn.

it's orthodox jewish law..he's indicated this when he was taken into custody for just such an occasion (his death).

there's a whole bunch of laws associated with orthodox jewish tradition..they send someone to watch the body, 'washers' and they wrap the body in their burial shroud..must be buried within 24 hours.

if you have an interest, just google orthodox jewish tradition burial..it's very interesting and all groups have a different (yet similar) process.

like muslims have to be buried laying head north to feet south with the body slightly facing east. women are not allowed to attend and must stand back at the road..even those married or children. only men are allowed at a muslim grave site at burial.

this is all very high liability and one reason i chose not to pursue.

 

[topcat]

it's orthodox jewish law..he's indicated this when he was taken into custody for just such an occasion (his death).

there's a whole bunch of laws with orthodox jewish tradition..they send someone to watch the body, 'washers' and they wrap the body in their burial shroud..must be buried within 24 hours.

if you have an interest, just google orthodox jewish tradition burial..it's very interesting and all groups have a different (yet similar) process.

like muslims have to be buried laying head north to feet south with the body slightly facing east. women are not allowed to attend and must stand back at the road..even those married or children. only men are allowed at a muslim grave site at burial.

this is all very high liability and one reason i chose not to pursue.

Thanks. It just solidifies my reason to ignore religion. Seriously though, I appreciate the effort to enlighten me. No, I won't go further, all religions are cults.

 

[schuylaar]

Thanks. It just solidifies my reason to ignore religion. Seriously though, I appreciate the effort to enlighten me. No, I won't go further, all religions are a cult.

i totally agree..i'm atheist.

 

[Warpedpassage]

Another little nugget from Whitney Webbs series. This from towards the end of third part of the series.

Barak refers to Ehud Barak, former israeli p.m.
You would think after 2007 Epstein would be so toxic no one would want to do business with him, guess not.

From the series:
“In 2015, a few years after Epstein’s release from prison following his conviction for soliciting sex from a minor in 2008, Barak formed a company with Epstein with the chief purpose of investing in an Israeli start-up then known as Reporty. That company, now called Carbyne, sells its signature software to 911 call centers and emergency service providers and is also available to consumers as an app that provides emergency services with access to a caller’s camera and location and also runs any caller’s identity through any linked government database. It has specifically been marketed by the company itself and the Israeli press as a solution to mass shootings in the United States and is already being used by at least two U.S. counties.

Israeli media reported that Epstein and Barak were among the company’s largest investors. Barak poured millions into the company and it was recently revealed by Haaretz that a significant amount of Barak’s total investments in Carbyne was funded by Epstein, making him a “de facto partner” in the company. Barak is now Carbyne’s chairman.

The company’s executive team are all former members of different branches of Israeli intelligence, including the elite military intelligence unit, Unit 8200, that is often likened to Israel’s equivalent of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). Carbyne’s current CEO, Amir Elichai, served in Unit 8200 and tapped former Unit 8200 commander Pinchas Buchris to serve as the company’s director and on its board. In addition to Elichai, another Carbyne co-founder, Lital Leshem, also served in Unit 8200 and later worked for Israeli private spy company Black Cube. Leshem now works for a subsidiary of Erik Prince’s company Frontier Services Group, according to the independent media outlet Narativ.”

 

[tangerinegreen555]

i want to see the autopsy photos..this could be anyone, saying anything.

Just out of sheer curiosity, how many autopsy photos have you viewed?

None?

Nobody ever sees autopsy photos. Maybe in 100 years.

All those JFK autopsy photos were by an artist who may or may not have seen the real ones.

And now with CGI, give me a break.

I think I saw a dead Oswald in 1963. Looked like him. I didn't take DNA to prove it.

Ever see the dead bin Laden photos?

Me neither. They aren't going to show that shit.

Just sayin'.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

it's orthodox jewish law..he's indicated this when he was taken into custody for just such an occasion (his death).

there's a whole bunch of laws associated with orthodox jewish tradition..they send someone to watch the body, 'washers' and they wrap the body in their burial shroud..must be buried within 24 hours.

if you have an interest, just google orthodox jewish tradition burial..it's very interesting and all groups have a different (yet similar) process.

like muslims have to be buried laying head north to feet south with the body slightly facing east. women are not allowed to attend and must stand back at the road..even those married or children. only men are allowed at a muslim grave site at burial.

this is all very high liability and one reason i chose not to pursue.

Too bad Epstein is not being given a traditional orthodox burial. There was no tahara and there is no chevra kadisha, or "holy society" to watch over his body.

Don't let the fact that you don't know what you are talking about stop you from posting. They funny. I love it when people who use the term "Jew-bastard" opine on Jewish rituals.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

whenever there's a hit the Boss wants to be close by..as close as he's comfortable, without really being there.

he wants to be as close to the lifeforce draining out of epstein as he dared.

at less than 50 miles away..unsealed docs and a dead epstein..all the same day- imagine that?

i mean who's administration and DOJ did epstein die under?: TRUMPS

 

[Warpedpassage]

Yeah I agree if Billy boy was raping children, as much as I liked him as president he should be locked up too. Same with everyone.


I did a quick search if Whitney Webb, I would be sure to see how news sources pick up her stories, but with all the misinformation and propaganda, I am quick to not trust the sites she is posted on.

Looks like the Jerusalem post, very mainstream outlet, is about to interview and cover webbs series. Holy shit!

 

[hotrodharley]

So, what does happen to the body?

Returned to family? Doesn't that fucking guy have a brother who will now be rich?

Maybe bury him and dig him up later like Oswald 14 yrs. later to double check?

Somebody has to ID a dead body to know what to write on the toe tag, right?

Maybe I watch too many movies.
So do a lot of other people if you read this whole thread though. Lol.

They’ll check DNA. Count on it.

 

[Tomba]

One of the two guards on duty at the time of Jeffrey Epstein's death was reportedly a substitute who didn't typically work as a corrections officer. Think

 

[schuylaar]

 

[hotrodharley]

'if he hung himself and it really wasn't apparent to coroner..'

even if it was apparent, the death was 1) unattended and 2) without a doctor vouching for long term illness..it's still considered suspicious.

What I said was regarding the obvious. The coroner couldn’t pronounce death by hanging obviously. The cause of death was left undetermined. So the injury apparently doesn’t match the story or something. If it was clear he’d died by hanging they would have said so.

 

[hotrodharley]

Just out of sheer curiosity, how many autopsy photos have you viewed?

None?

Nobody ever sees autopsy photos. Maybe in 100 years.

All those JFK autopsy photos were by an artist who may or may not have seen the real ones.

And now with CGI, give me a break.

I think I saw a dead Oswald in 1963. Looked like him. I didn't take DNA to prove it.

Ever see the dead bin Laden photos?

Me neither. They aren't going to show that shit.

Just sayin'.

Further dead bodies, depending on the condition, may not really resemble the photos of the person. Bloating or discoloration or swelling or other injuries. It doesn’t take much imagination to picture this happening by substituting the body of some other poor soul but it would require an extensive list of people.

The guy offed himself rather than face interminable court appearances and depositions and interrogation and yadda yadda.

 

[hotrodharley]

New York Times reports 1 hour ago that the guards were literally asleep and lied on records. They didn’t check on him or anyone for 3 hours. Explaining the early reports of 18 hour days and 60 hour work weeks. Mandatory overtime and it was already known one of the two people was not even a corrections officer but an office pogue.

 

[hotrodharley]

He offed himself and it is good.