HLG vs HGL Side By Side

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 68 90.7%

  • HydroGrow

    Votes: 7 9.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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Big Perm

Big Perm

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I guess my recipe wouldn't be very helpful for you then. I have to ph down. I never ph up. My tap water is 9.4, ppm 400-600. Been using it for years with no problem. What's my feeding EC, or ppm? No clue. After nutes my res is about 7.4, I ph down with battery acid to 6.1 now, been using the acid for over a year now, too. I more or less use the schedule at half.
When I had deficiencies earlier, I found out that I had drifted down over time to about 1/3 the schedule. I went back in my notes to last year, and am feeding that now, and am back on track.
You can basically take the DG schedule and wipe your ass with it. I found out the advertising and sales person is who put it together. This person has one grow under their belt. So, take that for whatever it's worth.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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hybridway2 said:
Yeah, could you pls share recipe? Thnx!
From what im seeing the Dyna causes a major ph drop in the media. Last night i ran about 8 gall of 7.0 tap through one pot & it was still coming out 5.4ish . topped it off with a 7.0 feed of another 7 gall with including runoff n still was only 5.7ish. .
Silica all the time? Already im seeing the neg effects caused by to much silica & im using less then half the recommended amount. The rest is ph up.
I bought it for the high p, low K & saw the MagPro later on. Then, made a mix with just the Grow base as i bought only the Grow & Bloom at first thinking that's all there was. Well, ph was super low. That was the first bad sign, then i saw the chart & almost puked. I know i should've looked into that first but thought it was a one part feed.
Also, my ppm's are coming in way lower then the chart says they should be when following the schedule.
Main concern being the mighty ph drop in the CoCo that has me feeding 6.5-7 now.
Idk man, is this company new or something? Anyone actually harvest DynaGro weed & smoke it with a smoke report? Cuz i couldn't imagine it could possible taste good loaded with silica/silicone.
Whats your secret & apologies ahead of time for sounding like I'm knocking a product you endorse. It just doesn't make sense to me. My siliconing is done very little in veg & not past week 3 of flower unless in loww dose.
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There was one dude claiming like 3 a light with 1ml per gallon dynagro :lol:
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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Big Perm said:
I guess my recipe wouldn't be very helpful for you then. I have to ph down. I never ph up. My tap water is 9.4, ppm 400-600. Been using it for years with no problem. What's my feeding EC, or ppm? No clue. After nutes my res is about 7.4, I ph down with battery acid to 6.1 now, been using the acid for over a year now, too. I more or less use the schedule at half.
When I had deficiencies earlier, I found out that I had drifted down over time to about 1/3 the schedule. I went back in my notes to last year, and am feeding that now, and am back on track.
You can basically take the DG schedule and wipe your ass with it. I found out the advertising and sales person is who put it together. This person has one grow under their belt. So, take that for whatever it's worth.
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The tap where I am at is just a bit under that. 8.6 to 8.8 range. I don't use nutrient solution when I water so I don't have that to bring the ph down. Have to make sure my soil is super well buffered and occasionally top dress or it starts to fuck with the critters living in the dirt.
 
Big Perm

Big Perm

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NanoGadget said:
The tap where I am at is just a bit under that. 8.6 to 8.8 range. I don't use nutrient solution when I water so I don't have that to bring the ph down. Have to make sure my soil is super well buffered and occasionally top dress or it starts to fuck with the critters living in the dirt.
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You maybe be able to cut it down with rainwater, or some ro. I'd go with rainwater to bring it in to the ph you want. If you don't want to kill the critters that is. Sulfuric acid will reek havoc on living soil, just ask me! It is a dream in coco, though. I never experience a ph rise over time in the res, set it and forget it.
Haters gonna hate, if you can't pour acid into water I would not recommend doing this method.
5 gal 33% Sulfuric acid -$30
Gallon of distilled water - $0.89
that's it.
Pour out one cup of the water from the gallon, pour in one cup of acid into the gallon of water. Done. You now have a gallon of pH down. In one year I have used two cups of acid from the 5 gallons, and 2 gallons of distilled water. This was also while I was running a 50gal res in hydro. The old ph down bottles you used to have do work great. Refill them with the gallon, and watch people lose their shit if you tell them your method.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Big Perm said:
You maybe be able to cut it down with rainwater, or some ro. I'd go with rainwater to bring it in to the ph you want. If you don't want to kill the critters that is. Sulfuric acid will reek havoc on living soil, just ask me! It is a dream in coco, though. I never experience a ph rise over time in the res, set it and forget it.
Haters gonna hate, if you can't pour acid into water I would not recommend doing this method.
5 gal 33% Sulfuric acid -$30
Gallon of distilled water - $0.89
that's it.
Pour out one cup of the water from the gallon, pour in one cup of acid into the gallon of water. Done. You now have a gallon of pH down. In one year I have used two cups of acid from the 5 gallons, and 2 gallons of distilled water. This was also while I was running a 50gal res in hydro. The old ph down bottles you used to have do work great. Refill them with the gallon, and watch people lose their shit if you tell them your method.
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Just gotta make sure there's room for the sulphur in your nutrient soup.
Why not use Phosphoric Acid?
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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Big Perm said:
You maybe be able to cut it down with rainwater, or some ro. I'd go with rainwater to bring it in to the ph you want. If you don't want to kill the critters that is. Sulfuric acid will reek havoc on living soil, just ask me! It is a dream in coco, though. I never experience a ph rise over time in the res, set it and forget it.
Haters gonna hate, if you can't pour acid into water I would not recommend doing this method.
5 gal 33% Sulfuric acid -$30
Gallon of distilled water - $0.89
that's it.
Pour out one cup of the water from the gallon, pour in one cup of acid into the gallon of water. Done. You now have a gallon of pH down. In one year I have used two cups of acid from the 5 gallons, and 2 gallons of distilled water. This was also while I was running a 50gal res in hydro. The old ph down bottles you used to have do work great. Refill them with the gallon, and watch people lose their shit if you tell them your method.
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Yeah, that would be a microbial holocaust and my plants would probably give me the finger as they lay down to die. Live organics are wonderful, but it limits options for making adjustments. The only thing i don't like about it really.
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

Amare Shill
hillbill said:
COB light builders will find diy to be a major factor. Some will eventually cater to that market. Top quality 3w and 5w lights make no less light or flowers than they ever did. COBs have taken dozens of connections and reduced it to a few with quick connects on some. A machine shop is not needed to make an effective light. No specialized equipment. More light also but this is rapid change in many areas. But, the best of the last non-cob lights still kill it.

I posted this in 2015
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Idk man! Monos have always laid out more ppf. Now maybe not the D but deff ppf. 180w of 5w monos on my SE-450 Raises the cob par from 400 to 850 & that remains good (nice #'s) within a 3.5x3.5, The cobs allow for the 4x4. So 300w of cob is laying 450 in the 3x3 area then the 180 w off monos kick it all the way to 850.
They both have theyre advantages fir sure though.
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

Amare Shill
1 month clone. 20190814_213643.jpg Lost some root mass on a bunch having to cut them & rip them apart but i aint sweatin that.
Got 4 FuelBombs ready for side by side action. Short veg so this doesnt happen & i cant use the lights. 20190813_214646.jpg 20190813_214639.jpg 20190813_214729.jpg
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Thundercat said:
I told you, you need to ask @homebrewer about dynagro before you fuck them all up messing with them.

Do what he tells you todo and not what you feel like doing.

BigPerm offered dyna gro advice as well, maybe try listening to his experience.
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I will. Thanks!
BP advice doesn't really apply to me accept that the feed schedule is crap & finding out its a newb solution explains everything.
Ill hit up @homebrewer to try & finish out this grow with it. So far plants are ok due to diligence.
 
CoB_nUt

CoB_nUt

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Big Perm said:
You maybe be able to cut it down with rainwater, or some ro. I'd go with rainwater to bring it in to the ph you want. If you don't want to kill the critters that is. Sulfuric acid will reek havoc on living soil, just ask me! It is a dream in coco, though. I never experience a ph rise over time in the res, set it and forget it.
Haters gonna hate, if you can't pour acid into water I would not recommend doing this method.
5 gal 33% Sulfuric acid -$30
Gallon of distilled water - $0.89
that's it.
Pour out one cup of the water from the gallon, pour in one cup of acid into the gallon of water. Done. You now have a gallon of pH down. In one year I have used two cups of acid from the 5 gallons, and 2 gallons of distilled water. This was also while I was running a 50gal res in hydro. The old ph down bottles you used to have do work great. Refill them with the gallon, and watch people lose their shit if you tell them your method.
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I use this.(Mortorcycle cycle battery acid) lol. Doesn't kill microbes either. Sometimes when I'm lazy,I use it straight out the container with a dropper. Lasts forever.
Nice post.
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

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Why people dont use apple vinegar for PH down??

Its healthy,its organic there is no panick,it gives some minerals extra to plants..
 
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