HLG vs HGL Side By Side

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 68 90.7%

  • HydroGrow

    Votes: 7 9.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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Dog Star said:
Why people dont use apple vinegar for PH down??

Its healthy,its organic there is no panick,it gives some minerals extra to plants..
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I may give it a try. Been counting on good soil buffering and top dressing when needed, but a little cider vinegar would give me more flexibility.
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

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NanoGadget said:
I may give it a try. Been counting on good soil buffering and top dressing when needed, but a little cider vinegar would give me more flexibility.
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Its great for soil,very gentle PH down and healthy for plants.. try also vitamin C or ascorbic acid,
beside it will lower your PH vitamin C will open stomataes of leafes few hundred percent more
and then your plant will breath more easily..

am use apple vinegar and vitamin C every watering... not much,you will need to tune self a bit
thru trial and error.. mine water is 7.25-7.35 PH so i add 5-6 ml of apple cider and half gram
of vitamine C on 5 gallon of water.. am check this mixture with PH meter and i lower it to ideal 6.7-6.8 PH.. works great..
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Dog Star said:
Its great for soil,very gentle PH down and healthy for plants.. try also vitamin C or ascorbic acid,
beside it will lower your PH vitamin C will open stomataes of leafes few hundred percent more
and then your plant will breath more easily..

am use apple vinegar and vitamin C every watering... not much,you will need to tune self a bit
thru trial and error.. mine water is 7.25-7.35 PH so i add 5-6 ml of apple cider and half gram
of vitamine C on 5 gallon of water.. am check this mixture with PH meter and i lower it to ideal 6.7-6.8 PH.. works great..
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Do you have any links to info on how plants utilize vitamin C?
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Dog Star said:
Why people dont use apple vinegar for PH down??

Its healthy,its organic there is no panick,it gives some minerals extra to plants..
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I don't think anyone grows organically anymore. Its all about hydro!!!! Nothing is better than hydro or types of hybrid hydro, Its running the game right now. Organics is a thing of the past i think, Old technology.
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

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a mongo frog said:
I don't think anyone grows organically anymore. Its all about hydro!!!! Nothing is better than hydro or types of hybrid hydro, Its running the game right now. Organics is a thing of the past i think, Old technology.
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Mine APBT eats yours Staford for breakfast... ;D LOL am joke man.. very nice doggy on that picture,
i love dogs a lot..,beautifull creatures that really gives love back compared to human animal.... ehhh...

We are not kids bro.. there will be always people that grow hydro and those that grows organics...
actually mine toughts are that organics will prevail in future right cause of fact that it gives better
product out,its more better sustainable for nature... so with time and when folks understand
deeper meaning of superproduction you all hydro guys will turn to digging in a dirt...


Kind regards A Mongo Frog
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Dog Star said:
Read a bit on these thematic or Google,mine knowledge is not harvested only on Cannabis forums...

Or try it,apply in your grow.. then later come back with criticizing or "spit" in mine face if advice is
not good..

But only after you experience.. dont made it in advance..
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Have you noticed any effect of the vitamin C treatment on long term storage of your dried product?
 
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sethimus

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Dog Star said:
Read a bit on these thematic or Google,mine knowledge is not harvested only on Cannabis forums...

Or try it,apply in your grow.. then later come back with criticizing or "spit" in mine face if advice is
not good..

But only after you experience.. dont made it in advance..
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i found papers on that, but nothing that supports your claim of opening up the stomata „a few hundert percent more“. a stomata has a certain size, fully open up would be 100% open, are you really claiming the stomata can even open up to several times its original size?
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

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sethimus said:
i found papers on that, but nothing that supports your claim of opening up the stomata „a few hundert percent more“. a stomata has a certain size, fully open up would be 100% open, are you really claiming the stomata can even open up to several times its original size?
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L-Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) is as essential to plants as it is to animals. Ascorbic acid functions as a major redox buffer and as a cofactor for enzymes involved in regulating photosynthesis, hormone biosynthesis, and regenerating other antioxidants. Ascorbic acid regulates cell division and growth and is involved in signal transduction. In contrast to the single pathway responsible for ascorbic acid biosynthesis in animals, plants use multiple pathways to synthesize ascorbic acid, perhaps reflecting the importance of this molecule to plant health. Given the importance of ascorbic acid to human nutrition, several technologies have been developed to increase the ascorbic acid content of plants through the manipulation of biosynthetic or recycling pathways. This paper provides an overview of these approaches as well as the consequences that changes in ascorbic acid content have on plant growth and function. Discussed is the capacity of plants to tolerate changes in ascorbic acid content. The many functions that ascorbic acid serves in plants, however, will require highly targeted approaches to improve their nutritional quality without compromising their health.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/scientifica/2013/795964/


Sethimus,i told you its not everything on internet and mine knowledge is not only from internet,and all knowledge is
still not on internet.. but you could find still lot of articles that confirm beneffits of Vitamine C on plants..

am dont have reason to lay to you,i just gived advice.. you said you Googled but i sees you didnt found any..
so if you didnt found any than this dont exist.. whoever thinks like that is pretty limited with inteligence..

if i remember corectly that data on opening stomataes was like 700% more than usually plant open stomataes
if Vitamin C is applyed.. but dont take me for word as these was long time i was read,think it was some
organic book but dont remember what.. dont have pier wieved studies to proove you..

So google more,maybe you found somewhere... i dont belive you so fast opened all articles and read it all..
 
kotobide

kotobide

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Dog Star said:
Its great for soil,very gentle PH down and healthy for plants.. try also vitamin C or ascorbic acid,
beside it will lower your PH vitamin C will open stomataes of leafes few hundred percent more
and then your plant will breath more easily..

am use apple vinegar and vitamin C every watering... not much,you will need to tune self a bit
thru trial and error.. mine water is 7.25-7.35 PH so i add 5-6 ml of apple cider and half gram
of vitamine C on 5 gallon of water.. am check this mixture with PH meter and i lower it to ideal 6.7-6.8 PH.. works great..
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My experience using ascorbic acid when i was waiting on my ph down to get shipped was shit it may drop the ph long enough to test correct but it swings wildly and wont remain stable for long and creates lockouts you need something more stable hell even battery acid(sulfuric acid) has more stability in holding a ph range than ascorbic acid.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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kotobide said:
My experience using ascorbic acid when i was waiting on my ph down to get shipped was shit it may drop the ph long enough to test correct but it swings wildly and wont remain stable for long and creates lockouts you need something more stable hell even battery acid(sulfuric acid) has more stability in holding a ph range than ascorbic acid.
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Pull your head out of your toilet - he's not talking about using Vitamin C for ph down you numbnuts :wall:
 
kotobide

kotobide

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OneHitDone said:
Pull your head out of your toilet - he's not talking about using Vitamin C for ph down you numbnuts :wall:
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Not that i was replying to your ignorant ass

"try also vitamin C or ascorbic acid,
beside it will lower your PH vitamin C will open stomataes of leafes few hundred percent more
and then your plant will breath more easily"

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Dog Star

Dog Star

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kotobide said:
My experience using ascorbic acid when i was waiting on my ph down to get shipped was shit it may drop the ph long enough to test correct but it swings wildly and wont remain stable for long and creates lockouts you need something more stable hell even battery acid(sulfuric acid) has more stability in holding a ph range than ascorbic acid.
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Again one that is limited with brain function and using too much of Sulphuric Acid.. ascorbic acid i put inside not for PHd but for making plant breath better and improve her health,only apple vinegar i use as PH down..

i will never use on mine plants those shit you mention.. am organic grower,not some hydro freak..
 
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