Who can beat Trump?

Who will you vote for in 2020

  • Trump

    Votes: 11 33.3%
  • Sanders

    Votes: 9 27.3%
  • Warren

    Votes: 6 18.2%
  • Biden

    Votes: 7 21.2%

  • Total voters
    33

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
That is the question of all time, because without Trump being removed from office, we're all dead.

Warren and Sanders (Harris is done) want fundamental change: single-payer health care, debt-free college, environmental protections and the end of big money in politics.

But as liberal voters size up the two leading candidates running on those values, Bernie and Elizabeth, one question is impossible to avoid: Can either one beat President Donald Trump?

Even some of the most passionate liberals are not sure Sanders or Warren is up to the task, knowing that Trump will use anything he can to tear them down: age, gender, personal background and, of course, their progressive plans to transform health care and the U.S. economy.

Democrats of all ideological persuasions consistently say their top priority is defeating Trump. And the Sanders and Warren campaigns are aware that no policy plan or campaign trail promise will matter as much as their ability to convince Democratic voters they can do that.

Multiple recent polls suggest that both Warren and Sanders would defeat Trump in a head-to-head matchup. Yet very few Democratic voters actually believe that's the case, and I'm one of them.

Just 9% of Democrats and those leaning Democratic think Warren has the best chance to win a general election, according to a poll released last week by Quinnipiac University. The numbers are only slightly better for Sanders: 12% believe he can beat Trump.

At the same time, 49% say Biden has the best chance to win.

More recent polls show both Warren and Sanders lead Trump in a hypothetical 2020 general election matchup, although Sanders' lead is larger than Warren's.

The poll's noted that each candidate draws his or her support from a different set of voters. While both are popular with liberals, Sanders has a stronger appeal with working-class voters and minorities, while Warren supporters tend to be whiter and more educated.

I want 1st of all to take back the Congress and the WH. That is my priority, so I'm going with Biden

Sanders and Warren and Harris are never going to be accepted by mainstream America, and those are the one's that have to vote for you in order to win.

Sure, I love their ideas, but I'm slightly out of the loop as far as my political ideals go, like gun control, green energy, increasing taxes instead of reducing them and spending less on military and more on social services, education and infrastructure, so my opinion is dead out of the starting gate as far as popular thought goes.

So, what's more important to you?

Ideals, or victory?
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
I wish I knew. It isn't gonna be easy no matter what anybody says.
Yup, there's no counting out the complete idiocy of the American voter.
This election is really a defining moment for America's supposed ideals, like respect for all, no matter race or religion or sex, or who you like to fuck.
We shall see, but I'll tell you one thing and that is if Trump is reelected, I'm finally going to leave this country and go back to Ireland, simply because I can't stand anymore the pure shit that is expoused by Trump and his cronies like what I grew up with, like the Cold war, the Kennedy's, King, Malcom X, the riots in Newark and Detroit and LA, Viet Nam, Grenada, Nicaragua, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Panama, Cuba and now Venezuela and China and Russia.
I'm fucking done hoping that shit will change if Trump gets elected, I'm going back to my family there, set up a grow, raise some sheep and grow some potatoes, and wish America well, but I'm the fuck outta here.
Why isn’t Cory Booker in the list? He seems very confident and smart. Plus he is young and energetic!
Next time around.
Give him a couple of more years, and then he'll be a contender
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

Well-Known Member
Yup, there's no counting out the complete idiocy of the American voter.
This election is really a defining moment for America's supposed ideals, like respect for all, no matter race or religion or sex, or who you like to fuck.
We shall see, but I'll tell you one thing and that is if Trump is reelected, I'm finally going to leave this country and go back to Ireland, simply because I can't stand anymore the pure shit that is expoused by Trump and his cronies like what I grew up with, like the Cold war, the Kennedy's, King, Malcom X, the riots in Newark and Detroit and LA, Viet Nam, Grenada, Nicaragua, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Panama, Cuba and now Venezuela and China and Russia.
I'm fucking done hoping that shit will change if Trump gets elected, I'm going back to my family there, set up a grow, raise some sheep and grow some potatoes, and wish America well, but I'm the fuck outta here.

Next time around.
Give him a couple of more years, and then he'll be a contender
I’m thinking the same thing about leaving the country if Trump gets re elected. Your hook up in Ireland sounds fuckin Sweet! My mother in law is from Ireland.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Why isn’t Cory Booker in the list? He seems very confident and smart. Plus he is young and energetic!
I love the dude and would be happy to see him as president. I don't want to be the dick to say it, but I am not sure America will ever elect someone that looks like they got kicked in the head by a horse in today's made for television world of politics.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

Well-Known Member
I love the dude and would be happy to see him as president. I don't want to be the dick to say it, but I am not sure America will ever elect someone that looks like they got kicked in the head by a horse in today's made for television world of politics.
I think he’s fine. In fact he reminds me of
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Which is definitely a good thing. Yum.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

Well-Known Member
No you are right, he is a good looking dude, hell he landed Rosario Dawson!

Its just hard to know which eye to look at kind of thing, I feel stupid saying it now, but it is hard to not see it when he talks, it is not all that noticeable in pictures even.
That’s interesting about his eye. I never noticed that until you pointed it out. I don’t think it’s a problem. I think he could easily knock out Trump. I would Love to see it ! Trump needs to be squished and completely humiliated onstage once and for all!!!
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
How many Jews in concentration camps were allowed to have guns ?
Hitler was a lot like you in that he hated Jews. If citizens wanted to ban Jews from entering their stores, they could

How many Jews were murdered in the holocaust ya fucking neo nazi?
 
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