Under Water.... Over Water ... WTF ???

420weedman

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Ok im not sure exactly whats going on with this plant but it seems to be wilting and then i water it and it comes back .. but then starts to wilt again when the soil still has quite a bit of moisture in it
any ideas ... ? my 2 other big plants are not doing this at all

Wilting plant ...


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one of my other that looks normal


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NotMine

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Hmmm looks like very light heat stress what is you temp, and humidty? fan leave curling a bit on first photo...pots look small also smaller pots more water...also very low humidity and they will transpire alot of water fast :)
 

420weedman

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look at the journal in my signature below for the grow .... i got it from seed to this point here .... the room temp is never over 80 and the light is about 24" above all of them ... this one is only 1 or 2 inches higher then my other plants
 

Mr. Bitti

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are your bottom leaves curled in weird ways?...i had one out of four plants in MG seedling starter soil(MG's lowest fertilized soil) completely curl up the first two node leaves for no reason apparently. after that growth just kept going after like 3 days of being stunded. Now im wondering im thinking of plucking it out cus its growing like a typical male long with no sidenodes i think its gone by tonight, 2 out of the other three babies started showing sex and i dont want any pollen in my room.
 

420weedman

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any other ideas ... ? i just moved this plant into my cfl room .
.. i thought maybe drainage ? the pots only had a couple holes in the bottom so i drilled a few more in there.
the 2 other plants dont seem to be effected by it
 

420weedman

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I have an idea, put your questions in your journal. VV
true, i could do that ... but wouldnt get as many answers....what is the plant problem section for any way ?

are you saying your holding out on giving me a idea on my problem till i post it in my journal?
or just generally tring to 'stick it to me'?

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kindprincess

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80f is enough to cause heat stress, which is what that is. you may have a slight nitrogen overdose as well (not burns) which will help the curl.

light intensity will cause that, as well as heat. if it's neither, it's too much nutes. being that the latter is almost never the case (you would see nute burns) you can pretty much bet on it being temps or light intensity. ie, a 1k at 24'' can do that easily.
 

420weedman

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i have rasied it up some... when you say "1k" im guessing you bean 1000watts ? ... its only a 400w .. and it is a aircooled hood ,,
 

kindprincess

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i pm'd you. radiant heat is more than likely the issue. instead of using your hand, use the underside of your arm. if it's hot, they are too....

keep in mind, that's not a problem. slight heat stress isn't going to be detrimental to plant health, and they will finish just fine. if you go from curly to crispy, you have a true heat issue that needs to be addressed. imo, just grow and watch, i don't think you're going to have a problem ;)
 

theman139

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look man,you know its not heat,and i dont think it is either,heres what i think,it looks like over watering not that you are watering to much but your plants arnt geting enough dissolved oxgen,your soil may not drain well enough for that particular plant,some plants are just pron to that kinda thing,try adding a teaspoon of hydogen peroxide per gal of water.that will give your plant the extra oxy she needs.good luck
 

420weedman

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i pm'd you. radiant heat is more than likely the issue. instead of using your hand, use the underside of your arm. if it's hot, they are too....

keep in mind, that's not a problem. slight heat stress isn't going to be detrimental to plant health, and they will finish just fine. if you go from curly to crispy, you have a true heat issue that needs to be addressed. imo, just grow and watch, i don't think you're going to have a problem ;)

Thanks for the help !

theman139look man,you know its not heat,and i dont think it is either,heres what i think,it looks like over watering not that you are watering to much but your plants arnt geting enough dissolved oxgen,your soil may not drain well enough for that particular plant,some plants are just pron to that kinda thing,try adding a teaspoon of hydogen peroxide per gal of water.that will give your plant the extra oxy she needs.good luck

ill try that too when i water again !
 

kindprincess

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belay that. the man isn't thinking straight. hydrogen peroxide KILLS BENEFICIAL BACTERIA. without the bacteria, plants will have a very hard time taking up nutrients as the microbials and roots are symbiotic. never use h202 in an organic grow, be it organic hydro, or soil (all soil is of organic make up)
 

theman139

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well ive been doing this for 18 years or so,and ive never ,ever, EVER had a negitve reaction to h2o2! call a local nursery and ask what they use.
 
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