Purple edges and lighter between veins

danjac82

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get an even liquid fertilizer..I’d go salt based because it’ll act faster. 3/4 strength atleast
 

danjac82

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The light color between veins is from magnesium. It’ll climb up the plant as well as the darkness and blotching from phosphorus deficiency. Sorry have been calling it potassium but it’s phosphorus deficiency. Both of those issues cause purpling as well. would be interesting to see which deficiency wins out and what the leaves look like in a week. Lol. Just kidding.
 
Your ph is probably fine. Worse thing would be to flush. That soil is probably heavy too. That could be an issue if it’s heavy soil that holds water a long time. What size pot were they in previously? Looking again and it doesn’t matter. Gut feeling which is a good gut feeling based on those plants looking identical to dozens of plants I’ve grown in the past
Soil feels dry within 2-3 days pots get lighter around 5-6 days they went from solo cupsinto a one gallon then to a 2.5 gallon, I went ahead and gave one of the worst a mildish 800 ppm feeding to see what happens since the problem seems to be progressing slowly it shouldn't kill them before results show from the feeding
 
The light color between veins is from magnesium. It’ll climb up the plant as well as the darkness and blotching from phosphorus deficiency. Sorry have been calling it potassium but it’s phosphorus deficiency. Both of those issues cause purpling as well. would be interesting to see which deficiency wins out and what the leaves look like in a week. Lol. Just kidding.
Thank you for the help I truly appreciate it
 

Gond00s

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and for plants in veg I usually don't feed much for them and they don't show any deficiency's I use around a scoop of mc for 10gals and ill add some calmag probably a quarter of a scoop not much
 
and for plants in veg I usually don't feed much for them and they don't show any deficiency's I use around a scoop of mc for 10gals and ill add some calmag probably a quarter of a scoop not much
Fed two of them one seemed to perk up the other went completely opposite and curled its upper leaves even more. I also still cant figure weather this leaf twist only on my zookie plants is genetic or a problem
 

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You sure you are not overwatering them? even if the topsoil looks dry, i don't know about the bottom.
Went ahead and chopped one cause it was male and tbh there were dry spots towards the bottom and middle so I'm guessing when I water its creating a "channel" down instead of soaking evenly, seemed overall more moist towards the top
 

Nutty sKunK

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Went ahead and chopped one cause it was male and tbh there were dry spots towards the bottom and middle so I'm guessing when I water its creating a "channel" down instead of soaking evenly, seemed overall more moist towards the top
@hotrodharley has a great method for that.

Pierce the medium with skewers so create channels for the water. Also helps create new root tips!

:)
 

hotrodharley

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@hotrodharley has a great method for that.

Pierce the medium with skewers so create channels for the water. Also helps create new root tips!

:)
The problem he describes happens to most peat based mediums and definitely with actual soil. That’s why I started skewering them years ago. No swirled roots at the bottom either. Those are water seekers. If you keep the medium loosened up the roots will literally fill your container.
 

Nutty sKunK

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The problem he describes happens to most peat based mediums and definitely with actual soil. That’s why I started skewering them years ago. No swirled roots at the bottom either. Those are water seekers. If you keep the medium loosened up the roots will literally fill your container.
Noticed that on my couple plants I harvested.

Loads of wee fibrous roots at the surface.
 
The problem he describes happens to most peat based mediums and definitely with actual soil. That’s why I started skewering them years ago. No swirled roots at the bottom either. Those are water seekers. If you keep the medium loosened up the roots will literally fill your container.
@hotrodharley has a great method for that.

Pierce the medium with skewers so create channels for the water. Also helps create new root tips!

:)
Haha that's smart I'm gonna go ahead and do that before the next watering
 

CanadianJim

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I used hotrodharley's method too. Really helps rootbound plants.
I noticed you said there was clay in your soil. Clay is really high in nutrients, but they're hard for the plant to access because of the clay's structure. If you're going to use clay soil you'll want to add mycorrhizae, the little hyphae break up the clay to extract the nutrients really well. Clay also retains water, so you would have uneven moisture from that.
Come to think of it hrh's method would break up the clay a bit as well.
 

danjac82

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I used hotrodharley's method too. Really helps rootbound plants.
I noticed you said there was clay in your soil. Clay is really high in nutrients, but they're hard for the plant to access because of the clay's structure. If you're going to use clay soil you'll want to add mycorrhizae, the little hyphae break up the clay to extract the nutrients really well. Clay also retains water, so you would have uneven moisture from that.
Come to think of it hrh's method would break up the clay a bit as well.
What’s the method
 

DCcan

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Picture Edward Skewerhand...
Yes, thats a good analogy. Use a bit of skill when aerating, just don't drive it thru the central tap root at a 45 angle.
All those voids hold air, nutrients and top dressing.
I don't do it all at once. Get the top and sides loosened up one day, then slowly loosen the core up a bit in a day or so.
Before watering, I'll loosen up the top again a bit and see how water flows thru before doing the core if needed.
 

CanadianJim

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I used hotrodharley's method too. Really helps rootbound plants.
I noticed you said there was clay in your soil. Clay is really high in nutrients, but they're hard for the plant to access because of the clay's structure. If you're going to use clay soil you'll want to add mycorrhizae, the little hyphae break up the clay to extract the nutrients really well. Clay also retains water, so you would have uneven moisture from that.
Come to think of it hrh's method would break up the clay a bit as well.
@Nutty sKunK just mentioned it. You pierce the medium with a bamboo skewer to loosen it up, aerate it. It helps prevent the water from making channels through the medium, gives you more of an even absorption. It can also help by breaking up the root ball a bit causing lots of little roots to form, sometimes getting to pockets of soil that haven't been used yet.
 
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