HLG vs HGL Side By Side Take 2

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 63 85.1%

  • HGL

    Votes: 11 14.9%
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    74
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hybridway2

hybridway2

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Yeah, there were issues with ph. Also have flushed these a few times during the grow in attempt to remove the overabundance of oils early in.
Another thing ive been noticing for the past few grows. Prob should be in bigger potts. Could have something to do with why im fighting to keep the bigger girls green. 20190904_212123.jpg
Did start flush then went back to one 1/2 strength feed for the HGL. Been reducing feed levels along with feeding un ph'd water between feeds to compensate for the low ph runoff that i think has been happening from using the Epsom Salt.
Eitherway, buds are killer. Considering the negative vibes & a not perfect grow, i am happy with the outcome. Deff couldve done allot better on both sides & fully intended on doing so next run.
Buds are good size, not mega big but very dense, frosty n stank to high heaven.
Thanks for recognizing @a mongo frog.
Flowers are in good shape.
 
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crimsonecho

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hybridway2 said:
Side by side but opposite ends of the room.
It was just temp. I ridded them fast, took action. One plant was drinking faster then the other but were both being watered the same time, is how it occurred id guess.
Other plants on the garden eventually got gnats to, even HGL had them for a wk or 2 Its been a long ride & im doing my best.with the time i have.
Right now the only plant with a root bug is the RandomeDank#1, under the Bar-8 Proto. It has fast spider looking fuckers running around the topsoil after watering & some winged bandits too. Nothing on the plant leaves thankfully. Used DE on it last night but am nervous i got the wrong shit? Who keeps telling me to use it? Sorry, forgot. View attachment 4381958
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Ok clearly this is an old post and i haven’t caught up with the thread yet so i’m not sure how this turned out but those may be hypoaspis miles. These guys eat gnat larvae. They hate water so they surface when you water the plant. Good guys.

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Kushash

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crimsonecho said:
Ok clearly this is an old post and i haven’t caught up with the thread yet so i’m not sure how this turned out but those may be hypoaspis miles. These guys eat gnat larvae. They hate water so they surface when you water the plant. Good guys.

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That is one of two bug problems.
The other flies and is not a gnat. It's aggressive and likes the light.
I'm guessing it was a flying root aphid not a fruit fly as hybridway2 suggests.
No sign of root damage from the root picture shown above.
What is you opinion on the 2nd bug?​
 
crimsonecho

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Kushash said:
That is one of two bug problems.
The other flies and is not a gnat. It's aggressive and likes the light.
I'm guessing it was a flying root aphid not a fruit fly as hybridway2 suggests.
No sign of root damage from the root picture shown above.
What is you opinion on the 2nd bug?​
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Sorry man, i think it’s impossible to guess what they are. For me at least. The only info presented here is that they fly. They can be anything. Well not really. They can’t be elephants or collapsing stars but they can be almost anything. Haha.
 
Kushash

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crimsonecho said:
Sorry man, i think it’s impossible to guess what they are. For me at least. The only info presented here is that they fly. They can be anything. Well not really. They can’t be elephants or collapsing stars but they can be almost anything. Haha.
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LOL!
1st I thought it was gnats, then I thought maybe they were fruit flies, now I'm thinking root aphids and was hoping to see signs of root aphids when he showed the root ball but it looked fine.

I got into the bug talk early and kind of turned it into a game of figure out the bug without pics.

I was feeling the same way about the small bugs walking on the sides of the pot being some type of harmless mite that may have come from a nearby bag of EWC.
 
crimsonecho

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Kushash said:
LOL!
1st I thought it was gnats, then I thought maybe they were fruit flies, now I'm thinking root aphids and was hoping to see signs of root aphids when he showed the root ball but it looked fine.

I got into the bug talk early and kind of turned it into a game of figure out the bug without pics.

I was feeling the same way about the small bugs walking on the sides of the pot being some type of harmless mite that may have come from a nearby bag of EWC.
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Whatever they are, if the crawlers are hypoaspis they will eat any larvae that spends a part of its life cycle in soil. I just gave up on identifying each and every mite and bug. I do organics and use freshly made ewc so yeah there are mites on the soil.

The thing is all these mites are there to eat decaying organic matter and usually they don’t bother the plant at all. Hypoaspis in this micro ecosystem is the first line of defense so i love those guys. And seeing that the roots are ok, i’ll say probably not root aphids. They may be thrips but i’m not sure if the damage is there. Other possibility is aphids i guess. But he should see something on the plant.

You know how biodiversity works, i’ve found one or two flyers in my grow area too. I guess no way avoiding it. They come with fresh ewc or cling to your clothes and all that. But i don’t use any pesticides or strips and they never were able to multiply. So imho, no need to chase ghosts. Plants look fine to me considering there have been some setbacks.
 
Kushash

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crimsonecho said:
Whatever they are, if the crawlers are hypoaspis they will eat any larvae that spends a part of its life cycle in soil. I just gave up on identifying each and every mite and bug. I do organics and use freshly made ewc so yeah there are mites on the soil.

The thing is all these mites are there to eat decaying organic matter and usually they don’t bother the plant at all. Hypoaspis in this micro ecosystem is the first line of defense so i love those guys. And seeing that the roots are ok, i’ll say probably not root aphids. They may be thrips but i’m not sure if the damage is there. Other possibility is aphids i guess. But he should see something on the plant.

You know how biodiversity works, i’ve found one or two flyers in my grow area too. I guess no way avoiding it. They come with fresh ewc or cling to your clothes and all that. But i don’t use any pesticides or strips and they never were able to multiply. So imho, no need to chase ghosts. Plants look fine to me considering there have been some setbacks.
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I always had issues with gnats in my organic soil and kept them in check using a variety of tactics. To many to list. Once I started top dressing with fresh EWC my gnat problem ended. I do nothing anymore to try to contain them. I always wondered if hypoaspis played a roll in wiping them out. I don't do anything anymore to control gnats because they are no longer an issue.

My only pest sometimes in the summer are thrips but healthy plants seem to be a deterrent to thrips.
I have small 1 inch centipedes in my 5 gallon plastic pots. They feast on springtails that are also in my pots. They freak some people out but I don't mind them, they never leave the pots and if I let the soil dry out they die off. They control the springtail population IMO.


@hybridway2 any flies ringing a bell?

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crimsonecho

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Kushash said:
I always had issues with gnats in my organic soil and kept them in check using a variety of tactics. To many to list. Once I started top dressing with fresh EWC my gnat problem ended. I do nothing anymore to try to contain them. I always wondered if hypoaspis played a roll in wiping them out. I don't do anything anymore to control gnats because they are no longer an issue.

My only pest sometimes in the summer are thrips but healthy plants seem to be a deterrent to thrips.
I have small 1 inch centipedes in my 5 gallon plastic pots. They feast on springtails that are also in my pots. They freak some people out but I don't mind them, they never leave the pots and if I let the soil dry out they die off. They control the springtail population IMO.


@hybridway2 any flies ringing a bell?

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Exactly. Healthy soil balances itself out and creates competition for any pests. Inside its really hard to get an infestation imho as long as you keep it clean and tidy.
 
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