Bernie Sanders 2020

Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Budley Doright said:
Isn’t that exactly what your going to do re vote republican if Sanders doesn’t win the nomination? If forced to choose between the the two evils you’ll choose the most evil correct? The only reason is butthurt that I can see, does nothing to help your country. Why Trump over anyone but Bernie, when you know it’s the worse choice.
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It doesn't really matter. First off, even if he could vote, Colorado will go to whoever the Democratic candidate is. Secondly, Tyronious is so odious that he will not be swaying anybody's vote except maybe the ORW - if she can figure out how to even vote.

But I am glad he is going on record with his choice. It is just another in his long, unbroken string of anti-democratic, propaganda fueled decisions and it gives us a chance to give the pathetic Bernie-only voters a good swift kick in the ass.

Hmmmm, which is better? Tyronious the Odious or Tyronious the Erroneous?

The ego on this guy makes it extra fun. What a maroon.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Unclebaldrick said:
It doesn't really matter. First off, even if he could vote, Colorado will go to whoever the Democratic candidate is. Secondly, Tyronious is so odious that he will not be swaying anybody's vote except maybe the ORW - if she can figure out how to even vote.

But I am glad he is going on record with his choice. It is just another in his long, unbroken string of anti-democratic, propaganda fueled decisions and it gives us a chance to give the pathetic Bernie-only voters a good swift kick in the ass.

Hmmmm, which is better? Tyronious the Odious or Tyronious the Erroneous?

The ego on this guy makes it extra fun. What a maroon.
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I know I know lol. I was bored and drinking my morning coffee . Thought it’d make for an interesting read lol..................poof gone lol
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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ttystikk said:
Here's why I'm not voting for Elizabeth Warren;

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-clinton-talk-behind-scenes-2020-race-intensifies-n1049701

'More of the same' politics won't win and even if somehow it did, it won't work.
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You are focused, I’ll give you that. But how can you logically vote for the worse thing to happen to your country (unless you don’t feel that way?) other than butt hurt? Your candidate joined with the dems to run for president so he must believe the dems are a better choice. The logical thing to do would be vote for the candidate that wins that nomination. To not do that would be contra to his beliefs and a bad choice for the country. Yet you declare give me Bernie or I’ll give you Trump, Your helping trump before you even vote (if you actually can). The only reason I can see that you would not vote (if you can?) for the democratic candidate that actually wins is a really bad case of butt hurt. You should be pissed at Bernie for lowering himself to run as a dem, the party you loath worse than the republicans.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Budley Doright said:
You are focused, I’ll give you that. But how can you logically vote for the worse thing to happen to your country (unless you don’t feel that way?) other than butt hurt? Your candidate joined with the dems to run for president so he must believe the dems are a better choice. The logical thing to do would be vote for the candidate that wins that nomination. To not do that would be contra to his beliefs and a bad choice for the country. Yet you declare give me Bernie or I’ll give you Trump, Your helping trump before you even vote (if you actually can). The only reason I can see that you would not vote (if you can?) for the democratic candidate that actually wins is a really bad case of butt hurt. You should be pissed at Bernie for lowering himself to run as a dem, the party you loath worse than the republicans.
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Clearly, Donald Trump supports "his interests (said frothingly)" more than Warren. I doubt many of us are surprised. Tyronious' interests are not America's interests, they are Tyronious' alone.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Unclebaldrick said:
Clearly, Donald Trump supports "his interests (said frothingly)" more than Warren. I doubt many of us are surprised. Tyronious' interests are not America's interests, they are Tyronious' alone.
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There are a few Tyronious’s, enough to help sway the vote to their “fuck you America” choice and that scares the hell out of me and I’m not even American ......... like fuck how does this shit even get debated. The primary, number one, all encompassing objective should be get that fuck out of office then work on the other shit.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Budley Doright said:
There are a few Tyronious’s, enough to help sway the vote to their “fuck you America” choice and that scares the hell out of me and I’m not even American ......... like fuck how does this shit even get debated. The primary, number one, all encompassing objective should be get that fuck out of office then work on the other shit.
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Tyronious' will get his trust fund money regardless of who is elected. Perhaps he figures he has a better chance of getting the respect he feels he deserves if he can talk some people into acts of arson on other people's homes. Pimp love, baby.
 
Fogdog

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Budley Doright said:
There are a few Tyronious’s, enough to help sway the vote to their “fuck you America” choice and that scares the hell out of me and I’m not even American ......... like fuck how does this shit even get debated. The primary, number one, all encompassing objective should be get that fuck out of office then work on the other shit.
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how the fuck does this shit even get debated?

My take on this is,

Sanders campaign has rested on white male entitlement the whole time. His economic policies were rejected by the vast majority of non-white male Democrats because he only talked about jobs and wages, while avoiding systemic racism. White men who call themselves "Progressives" have the luxury of "not voting for the lesser evil" by not voting at all because don't have to worry about consequences from Republican assaults on the rights of women, black and brown people.

So, why did Trump win in 2016 and why would he even possibly have a path to win in 2020? It all goes back to white entitlement and systemic racism. To end the grip of the white male establishment on the political system and our economy, we can't just focus on beating Trump or Republicans. We have to do it with a coalition that includes and attracts everybody. The 10% of white males who might vote for Trump if they vote for Sanders can't win if everybody else sticks together.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Fogdog said:
how the fuck does this shit even get debated?

My take on this is,

Sanders campaign has rested on white male entitlement the whole time. His economic policies were rejected by the vast majority of non-white male Democrats because he only talked about jobs and wages, while avoiding systemic racism. White men who call themselves "Progressives" have the luxury of "not voting for the lesser evil" by not voting at all because don't have to worry about consequences from Republican assaults on the rights of women, black and brown people.

So, why did Trump win in 2016 and why would he even possibly have a path to win in 2020? It all goes back to white entitlement and systemic racism. To end the grip of the white male establishment on the political system and our economy, we can't just focus on beating Trump or Republicans. We have to do it with a coalition that includes and attracts everybody. The 10% of white males who might vote for Trump if they vote for Sanders can't win if everybody else sticks together.
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That actually makes sense, thank you. BUT as the whole fucking world can see, he is/has destroyed any semblance of a fair and just government which should trump (pun intended) any thoughts of “doesn’t effect us”. Where has the proud America gone? What I get out of all of this is The threat of the white power (their fine people) hold is perceived as being threatened, how dare that happen. As the free world holds its collective breath the fight continues to get this guy out of the Whitehouse and in prison where he and his whole evil clan should be. He is basically giving the finger to everyone, and embraced for it by the delusional few.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Budley Doright said:
That actually makes sense, thank you. BUT as the whole fucking world can see, he is/has destroyed any semblance of a fair and just government which should trump (pun intended) any thoughts of “doesn’t effect us”. Where has the proud America gone? What I get out of all of this is The threat of the white power (their fine people) hold is perceived as being threatened, how dare that happen. As the free world holds its collective breath the fight continues to get this guy out of the Whitehouse and in prison where he and his whole evil clan should be. He is basically giving the finger to everyone, and embraced for it by the delusional few.
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We are wrangling over a long overdue division over racism yet one more time. We have at least another 6 more years of real serious discord to get through.
 
hanimmal

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Fogdog said:
We are wrangling over a long overdue division over racism yet one more time. We have at least another 6 more years of real serious discord to get through.
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I think every racist act having a camera shoved in its face will help speed the rehab up though. When people are faced with their stupidity on camera it really does hit them harder, the denial is strong, but not that strong.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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hanimmal said:
I think every racist act having a camera shoved in its face will help speed the rehab up though. When people are faced with their stupidity on camera it really does hit them harder, the denial is strong, but not that strong.
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Trump's and on the left, Sanders' overt racism is giving them cover to come out and into the open about their beliefs. I think the main group are remnants of the silent generation and a majority of the white boomers. They still hold a lot of power. The biggest threat are their voter suppression laws. Through that they can defeat democracy and continue minority rule for a long time. I think we have only begun to fight.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Budley Doright said:
Isn’t that exactly what your going to do re vote republican if Sanders doesn’t win the nomination? If forced to choose between the the two evils you’ll choose the most evil correct? The only reason is butthurt that I can see, does nothing to help your country. Why Trump over anyone but Bernie, when you know it’s the worse choice.
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Let I checked, I don't owe anyone my vote. It's called freedom and you might check the definition sometime.

If the Democratic establishment wanted my vote they can earn it, just like anyone else. Their sense of entitlement is exactly how Trump got into power. Funny how y'all will blame anyone on the thinnest of excuses except the party itself for fucking things up in 2016. Bernie got screwed, plain and simple. Or why hasn't any other campaign in American history seen hundreds of stupid delegates lining up against a candidate long before the convention?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Budley Doright said:
You are focused, I’ll give you that. But how can you logically vote for the worse thing to happen to your country (unless you don’t feel that way?) other than butt hurt? Your candidate joined with the dems to run for president so he must believe the dems are a better choice. The logical thing to do would be vote for the candidate that wins that nomination. To not do that would be contra to his beliefs and a bad choice for the country. Yet you declare give me Bernie or I’ll give you Trump, Your helping trump before you even vote (if you actually can). The only reason I can see that you would not vote (if you can?) for the democratic candidate that actually wins is a really bad case of butt hurt. You should be pissed at Bernie for lowering himself to run as a dem, the party you loath worse than the republicans.
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Strawman argument, and a bad one.

Try harder, Canuck.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Trump's and on the left, Sanders' overt racism is giving them cover to come out and into the open about their beliefs. I think the main group are remnants of the silent generation and a majority of the white boomers. They still hold a lot of power. The biggest threat are their voter suppression laws. Through that they can defeat democracy and continue minority rule for a long time. I think we have only begun to fight.
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Sanders is racist?

You really are batshit crazy. No one else gave their microphone to #blacklivesmatter

Go tell that to a Trumper- they're there only interested who'll before you!
 
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